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Old 01 June 2004, 08:16 AM
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today i wake up and check my emails, im suprised to see 2 mails from NMUK saying my mail wasnt deliverd but put this down to random virus`s thats flying about

but sumthing made me read them

check this, im being setup!! lol








Micky , Owens
m1ckyowens tmail.com
has contacted you regarding
Nissan Manufacturing (UK) Ltd
-
with the following message
Hello, I build Micra seats, i work in the North Est and i do alot of drugs.

i'd like to be tested for Class A and Class B drugs.

I drive a subaru and have no respect for the rules of the company i work
for.

One week from now i will contact the local press if i have not been given a
random drug test.










i dont work there anymore but i do make the seats (for a diffrent company) the other mail was exactly the same with a diffrent destination address (probably sent a few lol)

i have the email headers and stuff here but i dont have a clue on how i would track down who sent (and spoofed) this,

can it be done??
Old 01 June 2004, 08:21 AM
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Who you hacked off?
Old 01 June 2004, 08:32 AM
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Yeah - agree with Puff - who have you annoyed Micky?

It is potentially very hard to trace emails. If the person who sent it knows what they are doing, they could change email headers, forwarding servers etc, so that the email address quoted as the sender has nothing to do with who actually sent it. The IP addressing could be faked too.

They could have used Hotmail or another online email program which for all intents and purposes is untraceable unless you involved the authorities, which I guess you probably don't want to do at this stage.

Sorry it is not more positive. Are you sure this isn't a 'mate' winding you up?

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Old 01 June 2004, 08:47 AM
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Obviously they must know you if they also know you do a lot of drugs


But they don't know you work for another company so it must be someone who you had a dispute with before moving companies IMHO.

Anyway you drive a Subaru and have no respect for scoobynet LOL.
Old 01 June 2004, 09:04 AM
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LOL
i dont know who ive hacked off, i have more then enough respect for scoobynet, just no respect for people i dont like

i dont think ive annoyed anybody recently (not to my knowledge, ive been very good)
i kinda have a suspect in my head, but ive had no conversation with him for a few years (although i know he is capeable of this) but as i have said, ive not spoken to him for a while .

lol i dont do a lot of drugs
god i dont even drink anymore

none of my mates have the know how to do anything like this IMO
i might just abuse the lad who i suspect and see what happens LOL
Old 01 June 2004, 09:19 AM
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Post the full details. He may have left a trace.
Old 01 June 2004, 09:29 AM
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Date: Tue, 01 Jun 2004 02:19:14 +0100
From: System Administrator <postmaster@nissan.co.uk>
Subject: Undeliverable: NISSAN WEBSITE: Nissan Motor (GB) Ltd -
To: m1ckyowens@hotmail.com
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Your message

To: patricia.ibe@nissan.co.uk
Subject: NISSAN WEBSITE: Nissan Motor (GB) Ltd
-
Sent: Tue, 1 Jun 2004 02:15:35 +0100

did not reach the following recipient(s):

c=GB;a= ;p=Nissan Motor (GB;o=NMGB?MX;dda:SMTP=patricia.ibe@nissan.co.uk; on
Tue, 1 Jun 2004 02:19:42 +0100
The recipient name is not recognized
The MTS-ID of the original message is: c=gb;a= ;p=nissan motor
(gb;l=NMGB_NT40406010119LRPLG9K3
MSEXCH:IMS:Nissan Motor (GB) Ltd:NMGB_MX:NMGB_NT4 0 (000C05A6) Unknown
Recipient




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Date: Tue, 01 Jun 2004 02:15:35 +0100
From: m1ckyowens@hotmail.com
Subject: NISSAN WEBSITE: Nissan Motor (GB) Ltd
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Micky , Owens
m1ckyowens@hotmail.com
has contacted you regarding
Nissan Motor (GB) Ltd
-
with the following message
Hello, I build Micra seats, i work in the North Est and i do alot of drugs.

i'd like to be tested for Class A and Class B drugs.

I drive a subaru and have no respect for the rules of the company i work
for.

One week from now i will contact the local press if i have not been given a
random drug test.


--Boundary_(ID_VTIo8ul3TLNZ1sIsju1i0g)--
Old 01 June 2004, 09:31 AM
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the other one is simmiler but doesnt have the random french in it and is addressed to a diffrent nissan email address
Old 01 June 2004, 11:34 AM
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Are these headers from the original email or the bounce message? Are Nissan UK connected to Renault France in some way?
Old 01 June 2004, 11:40 AM
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Your ISP should be able to tell you were they are derived
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Renault and Nissan have shared infrastructure.
Old 01 June 2004, 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Nick
Are these headers from the original email or the bounce message? Are Nissan UK connected to Renault France in some way?
they are the bounced message



if i contact my isp, do i simply ask them "where did this email come from?"
i cant see that having much effect, they will just fob me off ?
Old 01 June 2004, 11:55 AM
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Come from a university server in France.

Now that can be hard to trace.....
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Originally Posted by StickyMicky
they are the bounced message

if i contact my isp, do i simply ask them "where did this email come from?"
i cant see that having much effect, they will just fob me off ?
You need to orginal email. Didn't the bounce contain the original as an attachment? The bounce has come from Renault France.

Your ISP also can't help you unless you have the orginal message.
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