Jye

quote:OVERVIEW OF PRESS DEMO:
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This is a work-in-progress demo, and does not reflect the quality of the
final product.

The demo content and functionality is limited to:
1 circuit (Spa)
1 GT car (Lister Storm)
1 nGT car (Morgan Aero 8)

GTR Press handling demo is intended to demonstrate:

1. The unprecedented precision and accuracy in the car handling and
physics of GTR.
2. The intricate graphical detail of the cars in GTR.
3. The detail in the circuits (every kerb-shape and every bump in the road
just as it is in reality).


INSTALLING GTR:
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Simply double click on the executable icon and follow the onscreen
instructions.

SYSTEM REQUIREMENTS:
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MINIMUM SPECIFICATION
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Operating System Microsoft Windows 98, ME, 2000 or XP Pro/Home
Processor 1.2 GHZ Intel Pentium III or 100% Compatible
Memory 256 MB
Hard Drive 1 Gigabyte free space
CD/DVD Drive 4x
3D Accelerator DirectX 8.1 compliant 32 MB AGP
Sound Card DirectX 8.1 compliant PCI
Game Controllers DirectX 8.1 compliant


RECOMMENDED SPECIFICATION
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Operating System Microsoft Windows XP Pro/Home
Processor 2 GHZ or better Intel Pentium III or 100% Compatible
Memory 512 MB or better
Hard Drive 1 Gigabyte free space.
CD/DVD Drive 12x or better
3D Accelerator DirectX 8.1 compliant 64 MB AGP or better
Sound Card DirectX 8.1 compliant PCI
Game Controllers DirectX 8.1 compliant



ADVICE:
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Tyre Warming:
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Please note that the tyres can take ONE-TWO FULL LAPs to get up to
operating temperature. The car will have much less grip until the tyres are
warmed up and much less braking power until the brakes are warmed up.
Live temperatures are provided for tyres and brakes in the Cockpit Motec
display - press LCD Mode key to cycle through these.
Don't judge any setup changes until you've done 4 or 5 laps.

If you have problems controlling the car or are not using a steering wheel,
use keys F1 - F4 to turn on aids. These are displayed by a red light in the
Arcade Motec display - Key Number '2'.

KNOWN ISSUES:
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INFORMATION:
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GTR is an officially licensed product of the FIA.

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Grab it from the following:

http://www.3dgamers.com/dl/games/gt..._demo1.exe.html
http://www.gamershell.com/news_BGTRBDemo.shtml

kernel

I was playing this last night It's pretty darn good

Jye

Pretty darn good - understatement of the year

So far, the physics, absolutely amazing, especially the Morgan, the way it bobs up and down under braking and when the cockpit zooms towards you. The way you can just feel when the back end is going to let go, the way it loosens up when the tyres get fully warm. The force feedback effects are also the best Ive ever experienced. Im using a Momo Force, the red one.

The sounds, what can I say, these are some of the most realistics sounds Ive ever heard in any driving sim. The whine of the gears, how they change pitch to a scream when going for it, the banging when you muck up a downshift, the rumble from the engine at low revs as you first pull out, the very realistic rumble strip effects for both sounds and force feed back. The Morgan sounds teriffic as does the Lister but I think the Morgans rumble has the edge

Also really like that while in cockpit view, pressing the LMB and moving the mouse forward/back adjusts the seat forward/back. Its amazing this has never been fully utilised in a driving game and lets you get that just perfect driving view.

Love watching the tyre temps change depending on cornering and braking

The visuals are also spot on, Ive everything maxed and no slow down, both the track, background and cars rival anything else out there, replays are better than GT3, my main gfx benchmark to date, imo.

In fact just too many things to rave about in this game.

For all those who play the likes of Toca2/LFS, dl this demo, its only 147 meg, and let me know what you think.

Neanderthal

iTrader: (6)

ohhhhhhhh!! that looks a little spesh!

StickyMicky

downloading now

flat4

you know my thoughts on this already game of the year

bioforger

iTrader: (1)

Looks awesome, esp for a demo. Hope the full game is as good. When's the release date due?

beemerboy

blimey, that lister is foookin lethal!!!! esp in autobox mode, when you hoon outta corners at 7000rpm!!!!

the batteries packing up in my keyboard didn't help the general aesthetics of the car either, on the hairpin!!!!!!!

carnage....

cant wait to get beaten by everyone online (story of my life)
enjoy

Dazza

Jye

Anticipated release is mid 2004

flat4

not soon enough - looking forward to driving the Lambo

StickyMicky

got a microsoft sidewinder game pad and its all fine apart from the fooken steering

was the same with LFS as well

Jye

Micky, calibrate your game pad in windoze first then try.

S@m

I can't get the pit limiter to turn off, Spa at 48mph isn't very testing
pressed all the keys with no result, any ideas ?

Mark.

its bound to be something simple

Jye

tis L by default, look in the setup screen under accessories, you can scroll it down and change it to anything you want btw

flat4

had a quick blast tonite - stock setup ain't bad, managed a 2.24 within 4 laps in the Lister (should be aiming for the 2.18s) all in all very impressed, runs extremely well on maxed out settings

beemerboy

jye, i went out today and bought a MOMO, blimey, you have to wrestle with the thing!!!

it also spot on for live for speed.

good choice!!!
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StickyMicky

this is my problem

every thing is fine, except when i use the pad to turn the car it doesnt gradualy increase the turning. it just whacks it at 100% left or right

now if i select say the pad to turn left and the keyboard to turn right, when i use the pad it gradualy turns it correctly, but when its set to turn both left and right its no good, exactly the same with LFS as well

recalibrated the pad and it made no diffrence
keyboard worls fine, why doesnt the left and fooken right
useing the pad for throttle and brake gives smooth inputs as well

StickyMicky

just to add, this isnt an anologue pad, my dads got a pad on his pc, ill try his tomorow

beemerboy

Bravo, the wheel was £79 ish - i bought some other stuff too.

it is well worth twice that money in online pleasure in live for speed!!!

had a big online dustup with some czec to55er who just smashed into everyone.
plus the analogue throttle etc mean you are not on and off the gas.brake, but can apply varying pressure.

its a MUST have!!

BB

bioforger

iTrader: (1)

Micky, u need a pad that does both analogue and digital. One that is digital only will cause those problems youre having, because the signal is either ON or OFF. Thats y when u steer u get 100% input or nothing. Or in the game options u have the steering set to digital when it sbe analogue.

Neanderthal

iTrader: (6)

Is this the wheel of choice then? Logitech MOMO force feedback?

J1nxy

Currys, Dixons etc are selling the Thrustmaster Enzo Wheel for 59.95 at the moment. The wheels build quality is brilliant and the difference it makes to driving games is huge. I can now play F1C and Toca Driver 2 and manage to do half decent laps. I'll give it a go on GTR tonight...

Steve

Jye

beemerboy, try these settings with your Momo for the GTR demo, the standard FFB settings are OK if a bit 'violent', heh

I've tried these settings out and they work really well, you should get more of a feel for any slight understeer and you shouldnt have to hold the wheel as tightly to counter the wheel oscillations

Make sure you keep a backup copy of your current GTR .PLR file, then cut and paste the following text into the original (make sure to delete these lines first).

Set the steering axis sensitivity at 35% (set in the controller settings menu in game) and speed sensitive steering @ 0%. Also try the follwing windows control panel settings for the wheel:

overall = 97%
spring effects= 97%
damping = 0%

center spring unchecked and 0%


FFB Device Type="4" // Type of FFB controller: 0=none 1=wheel, 2=stick/custom, 3=rumble pad.
FFB Effects Level="5" // Number of FFB effects to use: 0=No Effects, 1=Low, 2=Medium, 3=High, 4=Full, 5=Custom.
FFB Gain="0.90000" // Strength of Force Feedback effects. Range 0.0 to 1.0.
FFB Throttle FX on steer axis="1" // 0 = Throttle effects on throttle axis, 1 = throttle effects on steering axis.
FFB Brake FX on steer axis="1" // 0 = Brake effects on brake axis, 1 = brake effects on steering axis.
FFB steer vibe freq mult="0.07500" // Controls frequency of steering vibration. Recommended: 0.5 to 1.0, 0.0 disables steering vibration.
FFB steer vibe zero magnitude="0.03500" // Magnitude of steering vibration at 0mph (reference point).
FFB steer vibe slope="0.00000" // Slope of line defining magnitude as a function of frequency (used with FFB steer vibe zero magnitude).
FFB steer vibe wave type="0" // Type of wave to use for vibe: 0=Sine, 1=Square, 2=Triangle, 3=Sawtooth up, 4=Sawtooth down.
FFB steer force average weight="0.90000" // How much weight is given to new steering force calculations each frame (0.01 - 1.0). Lower values will smooth out the steering force, but will also add latency.
FFB steer force exponent="0.80000" // Steering force output "sensitivity". Range 0.0 to infinity. 0.0 to 1.0 = higher sensitivity, greater than 1.0 = lower sensitivity.
FFB steer force input max="-11500.00000" // Recommended: 11500 (-11500 if controller pulls in the wrong direction).
FFB steer force output max="1.50000" // Maximum force output of steering force, recommendation 0.8 to 2.0
FFB steer force grip weight="1.00000" // Range 0.0 to 1.0, recommended: 0.4 to 0.9. How much weight is given to tire grip when calculating steering force.
FFB steer force grip factor="0.75000" // Range 0.0 to 1.0, recommended: 0.2 to 0.6. How much of a factor the front wheel grip is on the steering weight.
FFB steer update thresh="0.00150" // Amount of change required to update steer force/vibe (0.0 - 1.0). Lower values = steering force updated more frequently = lower frame rate.
FFB steer friction coefficient="0.17500" // Coefficient to use for steering friction. Range: -1.0 to 1.0
FFB steer friction saturation="1.00000" // Saturation value to use for steering friction. Range: 0 - 1.0
FFB steer damper coefficient="0.17500" // Coefficient to use for steering damper. Range: -1.0 to 1.0
FFB steer damper saturation="1.00000" // Saturation value to use for steering damper. Range: 0 - 1.0
FFB throttle vibe freq mult="0.50000" // Scales actual engine frequency to force FFB vibration frequency. Suggested range: 0.10 to 0.50
FFB throttle vibe zero magnitude="0.09000" // Magnitude of engine vibration at 0rpm (reference point).
FFB throttle vibe slope="0.00000" // Slope of line defining magnitude as a function of frequency (used with FFB throttle vibe zero magnitude).
FFB throttle vibe wave type="0" // Type of wave to use for vibe: 0=Sine, 1=Square, 2=Triangle, 3=Sawtooth up, 4=Sawtooth down.
FFB throttle vibe update thresh="0.08000" // Amount of change required to update throttle vibe (0.0 - 1.0)
FFB brake vibe freq mult="0.90000" // Scales actual brake rotational frequency to force feedback vibration frequency.
FFB brake vibe zero magnitude="0.10000" // Magnitude of brake vibration at 0mph (reference point).
FFB brake vibe slope="0.00000" // Slope of line defining magnitude as a function of frequency (used with FFB brake vibe zero magnitude).
FFB brake vibe wave type="0" // Type of wave to use for vibe: 0=Sine, 1=Square, 2=Triangle, 3=Sawtooth up, 4=Sawtooth down.
FFB brake vibe update thresh="0.05000" // Amount of change required to update brake vibe (0.0 to 1.0)
FFB rumble strip magnitude="0.35000" // How strong the rumble strip rumble is. Range 0.0 to 1.0, 0.0 disables effect.
FFB rumble strip freq mult="0.60000" // Rumble stip frequency multiplier 1.0 = one rumble per wheel rev.
FFB rumble strip wave type="0" // Type of wave to use for vibe: 0=Sine, 1=Square, 2=Triangle, 3=Sawtooth up, 4=Sawtooth down.
FFB rumble strip pull factor="-0.65000" // How strongly wheel pulls right/left when running over a rumble strip. Suggested range: -1.5 to 1.5.
FFB rumble strip update thresh="0.07500" // Amount of change required to update rumble strip effect (0.0 - 1.0)
FFB jolt magnitude="1.50000" // How strong jolts from other cars (or walls) are. Suggested Range: -2.0 to 2.0.



Flat4, same sort of times I'm getting, best is 2.21 with no OTT track cuts (at least two wheels over the white lines) and a 2.18 with a bit of artistic licence at the bus stop

Jye

Neanderthal, I'd say yes but then I do own one

According to every review I've read though the Logitech Momo's are considered one of the best FFB wheels available atm. They aint the best wheels about but then you probably dont want to spend over £500 on something like a non FFB BDR (Ball Racing Developments) wheel and pedals

The pedals do look nifty though, would be nice to have a clutch, /me counts his pennies

https://shop.interactiveracing.com/e...p?ProductID=22

Chris J

I've got a logitech formula from years ago which still works fine. I think sometimes I am missing out by not having force feedback though, but then the only force feedback one I have used was on the PS2/GT3.

flat4

you really want FFB to get the most from the game, you'll get no feedback to what the tyres are doing without FFB

Neanderthal

iTrader: (6)

Cheers Jye, will have to break out the creditcard again
Had a quick whiz on the work pc at lunchtime, seems good although it did look like the Morgan was bouncing around like it had square wheels?