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Old Feb 10, 2003 | 10:26 AM
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I get the same , about £100 a week for 24 hour on call outside normal working hours for a North West NHS Trust

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Old Sep 30, 2003 | 02:06 PM
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We are currently being asked to cover 24 x 7 a week at a time, this will envolve covering from 5pm to 8am Mon - Fri and 24hrs at the weekends. We have been offered £84 plus £11 for the first two hours of call out and overtime @ time and a half fro lenght of the call. How does this compare ?
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Old Sep 30, 2003 | 02:29 PM
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Mark,

For providing exactly the same cover as you for 2 weeks in 4, I am paid a flat 10% extra on my monthly salary (5% per week) and then overtime at the applicable rate for the duration of any callout (double time for sunday and unsociable hours etc).

Is that any help?

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Old Sep 30, 2003 | 02:31 PM
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When I was on call (never again) I was getting 10% of my salary plus 500 quid per out of hours call-out.
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Old Sep 30, 2003 | 02:38 PM
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Used to get 0.25 * hourly rate + double time for a minimum of 4 hours for each callout. Was really good if you could get called out 3 or 4 times in one day, cos you got 4 hours for each
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Old Sep 30, 2003 | 04:21 PM
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I get **** all for oncall [img]images/smilies/mad.gif[/img]

Comes round once every 6 weeks.
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Old Sep 30, 2003 | 08:47 PM
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I get 50 quid per on call shift, I do 1 week oncall every month(ish), Normal Monday-Friday is 1 shift per night Sat and Sun is 2 shifts.
So in a normal 4 week month I do 9 shifts of oncall.
Bank holidays are double cash per shift, as are Christmas and New Year and all the other holidays.. i.e. 4 shifts for the complete day as im covering 24hr period, so its double per shift.
If I get called out i.e. I have to leave my house, the first 2 hours are covered by the on call, then I get double my hourly rate after that.

I guess it depends on what your looking after out of hours.

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Old Sep 30, 2003 | 09:05 PM
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I'm an alarm engineer on call every other week for the last 12 years for which a receive £0.00 yep F*#k all.Unless I get called out a 3am to fix something then i get a pitance.

Dave

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Old Sep 30, 2003 | 09:41 PM
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60 a night weekends / bank holidays & 40 a night weekdays. Hours worked at time and a half.

Used to be one week in 5, post 3 rounds of redundancies it appears to be at least 1 in 3.

I have a feeling this may be up for *review* by our new owners, but we got it written into our contracts, so it will all kick off if they try and cut it.

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Old Oct 1, 2003 | 08:00 AM
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Anyone do on call in an NHS enviroment ?
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Old Oct 1, 2003 | 08:53 AM
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markys, I am on call on the same rota as you. 1 week at a time 6pm until 8am.

We are not supposed to drink during this time but I think it makes it more amusing. One of the last times I go t called out was we had frame relay problems and I was trying to talk to the BT frame engineers whilst pissed as a fart

I receive 10% of my salary regardless of whether I am called out and then should I be called out, I receive time and a half.

Suits me fine as we get called out so rarely (touch wood)

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Old Oct 1, 2003 | 05:33 PM
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I used to do oncall support in an NHS environment, but that was about 6 years ago and it's probably changed. We used to have two separate rotas (one per "system" supported) with two teams each of two people, per rota. For a given system, the two teams alternated week on week off, and the people would alternate primary/secondary on alternate stints - so you got to be primary oncall once every four weeks.

For the privilege of being woken up at 2am with adrenalin coursing through your veins only to discover that the pager was showing "battery low", I seem to recall being paid something like 10 quid per shift (i.e. about 70 quid a week) If you actually got called out, there was something like a 20 quid callout payment to cover the first 2 hours of a call, plus more if it went over. So not a lot really.

Then there was the weekend when Gloucester Royal's Haematology PDP-11 ran out of disk space (because nobody had told it that the new 2-gig drive was available to be used for data in the live environment), fell over in a big way and had to be very gently and carefully nursed back to life - I lost more or less an entire bank holiday weekend, and was a bit miffed when those in charge didn't want to pay me for 3 days worth of callout charges...
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Old Oct 1, 2003 | 06:28 PM
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PDP11 lol
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Old Oct 1, 2003 | 09:00 PM
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PDP11's

Last saw one of those at a Romanian GSM Telco, not so many years ago.

Steve

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Old Oct 1, 2003 | 09:02 PM
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I Work for the NHS as an IT Tech, i'll check what i get for being on call when i'm in work tomorrow. .. i know it's not much though [img]images/smilies/mad.gif[/img]
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Old Oct 1, 2003 | 10:28 PM
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[sorry to semi-hijack but ..]

Check out the vintage computer sex starring a PDP-11 and Sinclair QL!
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Old Oct 1, 2003 | 11:48 PM
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AVI - Snap Im a techie for the NHS aswell, in worcester

Was gettin paid £11 a day £44 a weekend, but just been premoted to Senior now I don't get nothing :'(
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Old Oct 2, 2003 | 11:27 PM
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PDP11 lol
Why? Great little machines in their day. The NHS used to love them because they were (relatively) cheap and you could get a lot of grunt out of them. Labs all over the UK used to use them - I last worked in the NHS about 6 years ago, but even then they were still popular for jobs like running autoanalysers, then shipping the data across to the main lab system on a vax for further analysis.

Regarding oncall, the one thing which really used to p*ss me off was the "wait for 5:30" syndrome. You know: user has a problem, but knows if he calls the support desk at, say, 3pm it'll not even get looked at until 9:00 the following morning because it goes in a queue. So he waits until 5:31pm, then pages the oncall support service, who then has to fix the problem. Clever user thus "beats the system" and gets his problem sorted 12 hours quicker...

To be honest, given the hassle involved and the pittance I used to get paid for it (and it doesn't sound as if the NHS has improved the financial side since) I'm surprised anyone in the NHS ever agrees to do oncall support. I certainly wouldn't do it again...
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