ADSL filter and other oddities...grrrr!
#1
On my advice , my parents have just got ADSL through Pipex enabled and I spent this evening trying to get it working
It's an old'ish house with many phones and telephone wires everywhere. D-Link DSL-300G+ Ethernet modem. The two main oddities are:
1. With nothing changed except ADSL filters in every phone socket (ie the router not connected anywhere), when dialling with one of the phones (push button, but pulse dialling only) one of the other phones (push button, but with what sounds like a real bell in it) 'dings' on each pulse. Take out the ADSL filter that the dialling phone is on, and all is quiet. What's up here then ????
2. With the modem plugged into an ADSL filter, the connection is very temperamental. Most of the time the modem reports 'Physical line error' - which is the same, when plugged in, as it reports when the modem isn't even plugged in at all However, it does connect occasionally, and then works really well until it drops the connection, and it's a pig to get it back on-line (switch off/on, remove power etc etc)
Any ideas?
...and then there's the problem of getting their Win 95 PC to accept the modem as the DHCP server - it just ignores it and sits with an winipcfg reporting an IP address of 0.0.0.0 and a DHCP server address of 255.255.255.255 (when the latter should be 192.168.0.1). What gives here???
It's an old'ish house with many phones and telephone wires everywhere. D-Link DSL-300G+ Ethernet modem. The two main oddities are:
1. With nothing changed except ADSL filters in every phone socket (ie the router not connected anywhere), when dialling with one of the phones (push button, but pulse dialling only) one of the other phones (push button, but with what sounds like a real bell in it) 'dings' on each pulse. Take out the ADSL filter that the dialling phone is on, and all is quiet. What's up here then ????
2. With the modem plugged into an ADSL filter, the connection is very temperamental. Most of the time the modem reports 'Physical line error' - which is the same, when plugged in, as it reports when the modem isn't even plugged in at all However, it does connect occasionally, and then works really well until it drops the connection, and it's a pig to get it back on-line (switch off/on, remove power etc etc)
Any ideas?
...and then there's the problem of getting their Win 95 PC to accept the modem as the DHCP server - it just ignores it and sits with an winipcfg reporting an IP address of 0.0.0.0 and a DHCP server address of 255.255.255.255 (when the latter should be 192.168.0.1). What gives here???
#2
BTT for me
It seems that not all ADSL filters are the same, and according to
http://www.adslnation.com/support/filters.php some seem to be just plain wrong. It might even be the case that I have the 'unknown brand DSL-20MF' as I ordered the filters with the D-Link modem.
Any views on the Win95 DHCP problem???
Ta
Martin
It seems that not all ADSL filters are the same, and according to
http://www.adslnation.com/support/filters.php some seem to be just plain wrong. It might even be the case that I have the 'unknown brand DSL-20MF' as I ordered the filters with the D-Link modem.
Any views on the Win95 DHCP problem???
Ta
Martin
#3
I think the IP addy would only be 192.168.0.1 if you have set the win95 pc to share its internet connection. Otherwise it should pick it up from the modem/isp when you are connected
#4
Sounds like you have a filter problem, adslnations XF filter is very good
With regards to your Win98 problem, Could possibly be your IP stack has got corrupted, easiest way is to delete all your networking adapters and reinstall - just deleting the IP won't work. When you do this make sure you have you 98 CD/drivers handy
With regards to your Win98 problem, Could possibly be your IP stack has got corrupted, easiest way is to delete all your networking adapters and reinstall - just deleting the IP won't work. When you do this make sure you have you 98 CD/drivers handy
#6
If you MUST use filters then the best ones are Fujitsu FDX100. You can get them cheapest from www.broadbandzone.co.uk. http://www.broadbandzone.co.uk/shop/Microfilters_x40Splittersx412007.htm
You would be better off with a NTE5 splitter from the likes of www.solwise.co.uk or www.clarity.it/telecoms/adsl_bits.htm
You would be better off with a NTE5 splitter from the likes of www.solwise.co.uk or www.clarity.it/telecoms/adsl_bits.htm
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#8
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I think i know the problem..
I had the same thing in my house.Got a mate of mine to wire an extension from the main BT box back to my office at the back of the house.He put a 2 port BT socket on the wall but only wored in one of them.I set up my computers and hooked up my router and ADSL microfilter. The connection was intermittant and dropped every 10-30 mins.I could see the router showing when it was dropped and logging onto the dlink router showed the line failure.Checked everything over 3 times but still no joy.Called my mate and he suggested opening the actual phone socket and changing over the blue and white wires inside.I cant remember exactly which ones they were but when i did that it all worked fine and 2 years down the road, have had no drops whatsoever.
Just my 2 pennies worth
I had the same thing in my house.Got a mate of mine to wire an extension from the main BT box back to my office at the back of the house.He put a 2 port BT socket on the wall but only wored in one of them.I set up my computers and hooked up my router and ADSL microfilter. The connection was intermittant and dropped every 10-30 mins.I could see the router showing when it was dropped and logging onto the dlink router showed the line failure.Checked everything over 3 times but still no joy.Called my mate and he suggested opening the actual phone socket and changing over the blue and white wires inside.I cant remember exactly which ones they were but when i did that it all worked fine and 2 years down the road, have had no drops whatsoever.
Just my 2 pennies worth
#9
Thanks everyone. Summarising the above:
- I will try some better filters
- yes, I was wrong - the PC IP address should be 192.168.0.2, since the modem management pages are on .1
- ...but now I don't quite understand the modem functionality! Are we saying that if the PC is off and the modem connected (and given a dynamic address of say 123.123.123.123 by Pipex), then when I switch the PC on, it will get assigned an IP address of 123.123.123.123 or will it be 192.168.0.2 ???
- I think I'll pass on swapping the blue and white (or was it green and red?) wires in the master socket, thanks
Martin
- I will try some better filters
- yes, I was wrong - the PC IP address should be 192.168.0.2, since the modem management pages are on .1
- ...but now I don't quite understand the modem functionality! Are we saying that if the PC is off and the modem connected (and given a dynamic address of say 123.123.123.123 by Pipex), then when I switch the PC on, it will get assigned an IP address of 123.123.123.123 or will it be 192.168.0.2 ???
- I think I'll pass on swapping the blue and white (or was it green and red?) wires in the master socket, thanks
Martin
#11
4x ADSLNation Xf1-e now fitted:
- downstairs phone still 'dings' when pulse dialling phone used - one or the other, or both will have to go. Very strange, as only happens with filters in place...
- ADSL connection now rock solid
- downstairs phone still 'dings' when pulse dialling phone used - one or the other, or both will have to go. Very strange, as only happens with filters in place...
- ADSL connection now rock solid
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