Tim-Grove

http://www.dont-pay-ntl.co.uk/

Tim.

JackClark

BT are doing the same with thier Satelite Broadband users. How long till the ADSL bods do the same??

dsmith

*sigh*

NTL handled it badly but people have to realise that backbone bandwidth is not as cheap as ADSL/Cable and the whole infrstructure is not built (and therefore not costed!) to provide max throughput 100% of the time.

These things are done by historical report so the odd ocassion isn't going to get you cut off. If you want an uncontested, guaranteed service 100% of the time - buy a leased line.

Deano

P1Fanatic

1gb a day - seems fair enough to me. £20 a month all in for what has been a stable and fast service is awesome after using a modem for years before.

If u want to download more then be prepared to pay for it.

If any of you knew how much it costs to maintain, upgrade and improve an ISP backbone then I think you would agree that £20 pm is a veritable bargain for what you are getting. Hence any company who has mission critical apps uses a leased line.

Simon.

judgejules

Mmmm I love a well put together web page

~Jules

boxst

Hello

I think it's the banning of VPN that is more worrying.

The whole point of my broadband (from Zen) is that I can work at home and connect to the office.

Steve.

ptholt

Its the tip of the iceberg i think, having looked at adsl packages in spain etc they are all going metered dsl access over there and in other countries.

scoob_dood

Interesting site, not the nicest, and not on it's own in condemning NTL for their actions, but like p1f said, it's not all doom and gloom, and I would question anyone's ability to justify a regular average of 1Gb per day download, sure the odd day, but a regular average ?

However ...

http://www.ntlworld.com/legals/user-policy.htm

Not sure I agree with this, I don't see it's any different to any other use of the internet - they certianly can't be sure that use of VPNs is solely business oriented! More likely that they can't filter whatever traffic is running through their network in your IPSec tunnel

- Jon

[Edited by scoob_dood - 2/17/2003 11:00:07 PM]

JackClark

Was hoping to set up a tunnel to my friends house, that's not for business. Will have to investigate.

scoob_dood

If it helps, I've being using an IPSec client to access my work email for ages now, without any problems/complaints.

- Jon

boxst

Jack:

Well, if you want to dig between your friends house and yours unless you disturb one of NTL's cables I don't think they will be too bothered.

Steve.

[Edited by boxst - 2/17/2003 11:17:50 PM]

dsmith

Sounds likes business use to me

Deano

JackClark

I'll let Paddy know Steve. Thanks.