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Old 13 January 2003, 07:00 AM
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Any one else seen this? Is it really possible? It certainly seems so according to the links. So if you want a new card you might be interested.
edit to add the link http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=552495

[Edited by ariel - 1/13/2003 7:20:06 AM]
Old 13 January 2003, 08:00 PM
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Here's a page with patched files if anyone's up for trying it. x-bit labs have a story on the subject, if interested. It seems you only need to swap some driver files to make your £100-ish gfx card behave as one costing over twice as much
Old 13 January 2003, 08:37 PM
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That would be an impressive mod.

How long before ATi start throwing the DCMA around?
Old 13 January 2003, 08:59 PM
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A word of warning to the wise...It only works on OLDER 9500 boards that were build on 9700 PCB, which has 256 bit architecture... it will NOT work on newer 9500 boards, because they are on their own PCB now. In other words, do not buy a 9500 with the intention of hacking it inot a 9700 it will NOT work. It will only work with existing first gen 9500 boards!
Old 13 January 2003, 09:28 PM
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Why? Have you got a board to try with?

Having read (a little) around the subject, it appears that real 9500 boards only support 64Mb using the 128-bit memory interface.

Any 128Mb board therefore isn't based on the 9500 ref design - an mfrs like Sapphire appear to have used 9700 boards with 9500 chips to make it work. All the posts on hardforum appear to have been made in the last couple of days.

If I can find a board at the right price, I think I'll give it a go.
Old 14 January 2003, 11:32 AM
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It's the Sapphire 9500 NON PRO if anyone wants to try .
Old 14 January 2003, 03:17 PM
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very tempted .. waiting on new box to give it a go.

come on shuttle ..ship that nForce ...

Steve

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Old 14 January 2003, 04:00 PM
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You found anywhere in the UK listing those yet Steve?

{Presuming you're on about the new Shuttle Cube with NF2 mobo}
Old 14 January 2003, 06:28 PM
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www.overclockers.co.uk

mines on order !!

Radion 9500 128mb that is

or should I say 9700
Old 14 January 2003, 06:49 PM
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ditto - ordered from overclockers last nite - being delivered tomorrow - let you know how I get on

9700Pro for 135quid
Old 14 January 2003, 07:03 PM
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ChrisB : O'clockers reckon they'll have them on sale this week. I spoke to the chap at gemma ( who are listed as shuttle distributors for the UK ) and he said end of the month.

I am checking around on a daily basis

Steve
Old 15 January 2003, 07:02 PM
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It's arrived!

And it's a 9700 Board, so it's got the 256-bit bus (ram 2 lots of 2, unlike inline 4 of the 9500 Pro boards, but 3.6ns rated )!

I'll let you know how I get on!
Old 15 January 2003, 10:06 PM
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Cr@p - it gets the chequerboard problem - looks like it's reasonably common (and from the type of corruption I'll keep my fingers crossed that there'll be a fix).

Overclocks OK tho'
Old 15 January 2003, 10:44 PM
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there is talk on the overclockers forums of a software hack that doesn't introduce the chequerboard issue.

( on the last page or two of the thread )

Steve
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I'm using the software hacks...
Old 18 January 2003, 11:45 AM
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Have you tried every version of the hacks? Some report success with Wizzards hack and some rivatuner, or try disable compressed textures. I've got the card but not the time to install and test for a bit.
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Fill rates definately doubled - only managed to get RivaTuner working at the minute.

Checkerboard happens on Windows Buttons too though, so I'm not entirely convinced it's a hardware pipeline issue (why would XP use hardware texture pipelines for "OK" buttons etc in Windows!)

It will be fixed - oh yes
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