just been made redundant
20 November 2002, 05:29 AM
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so if anyone knows of a sales or business development role in IT security please mail me.
i have experience of selling consulting and managed services across europe. location is flexible but i am based in SE
thanks, in advance...
i have experience of selling consulting and managed services across europe. location is flexible but i am based in SE
thanks, in advance...
20 November 2002, 09:44 AM
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Sorry to hear that - in the midst of my 2nd redundancy myself!
Dunno about specifics but I've seen plenty of IT jobs with *Security* stuff attached to them on Jobserve.
http://www.it.jobserve.com
When you search, I've found the best way is by using location. i.e. try using 'berkshire' or 'surrey' for example.
Good luck mate
Dave
20 November 2002, 10:13 AM
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www.reed.co.uk
www.jobsin.co.uk
www.gisajob.co.uk
www.jobsearch.co.uk
www.newmonday.co.uk
www.planetrecruit.com/channel/uk
www.totaljobs.co.uk
www.monster.co.uk
www.alljobs.com
www.cvserve.com
www.freelancerinformer.co.uk
Hope these do you and you find a job soonest
(still looking for one in telecoms here
but im doing a free IT course to keep me going 
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Tony
PS, pop to your local job center and get some info on these free courses, you have to be unemployed to claim them but if you get a job after you signed up for said course you still get it free
www.jobsin.co.uk
www.gisajob.co.uk
www.jobsearch.co.uk
www.newmonday.co.uk
www.planetrecruit.com/channel/uk
www.totaljobs.co.uk
www.monster.co.uk
www.alljobs.com
www.cvserve.com
www.freelancerinformer.co.uk
Hope these do you and you find a job soonest
(still looking for one in telecoms here
but im doing a free IT course to keep me going )Tony
PS, pop to your local job center and get some info on these free courses, you have to be unemployed to claim them but if you get a job after you signed up for said course you still get it free
20 November 2002, 11:45 AM
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Sorry to hear your bad news, seems like it happening to quite a few of on here, I got chopped a couple of weeks ago
And I am so bored at home its driving me nuts, done the cv thing out to all the agencies etc and looking on sites. The difficult thing is trying to stay off the beers and not to spend any money
Hope you have some good luck and find something soon!
And I am so bored at home its driving me nuts, done the cv thing out to all the agencies etc and looking on sites. The difficult thing is trying to stay off the beers and not to spend any money
Hope you have some good luck and find something soon!
20 November 2002, 12:15 PM
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Neil,
sorry to hear that.
i nearly got made redund. last month. its not good.
if i hear of anything going, i will mail you.
chin up son, and keep plugging away.
You too Bravo, put the can of Stella down and kick some agencies ****.
BB
sorry to hear that.
i nearly got made redund. last month. its not good.
if i hear of anything going, i will mail you.
chin up son, and keep plugging away.
You too Bravo, put the can of Stella down and kick some agencies ****.
BB
20 November 2002, 12:18 PM
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BB unfortunately I have finished all the stella and have just 2 bottles of yorkshire real ale left, its getting bad
Sticking to coffee and ciggies sitting here being feking bored!
Cant even be bothered to turn the ps2 on its that bloody depressing being out of work
Get paid next week tho so will be down to Sasinsburys to stock up 
Sticking to coffee and ciggies sitting here being feking bored!
Cant even be bothered to turn the ps2 on its that bloody depressing being out of work
Get paid next week tho so will be down to Sasinsburys to stock up
20 November 2002, 05:02 PM
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£19k basic, £45k OTE uncapped car and all corporate benefits.
Our client is globally recognised within the Video and Audio conferencing industry.Its continued growth has led to an excellent opportunity to work in the South East of England. Selling Audio and Video services to businesses in West London, Herts, Oxon and Bucks, you will live on or near the territory with at least one years new business sales experience and an enthusiastic personality.
Successful candidates will be from a solution sales background and have the ability to thrive in a high pressure sales environment. In return you will receive excellent support with an extensive remuneration package and great career potential.
Contact Dominic at PMA Recruitment on pma.sales@totalise.co.uk quoting dg2
Role or Area: Sales & Business Development
Term Type: Permanent
Location: South East
Salary: £19k basic, £45k OTE uncapped car and all corporate benefits.
Starting: ASAP
Reference: jtdg2
Posted: 14 November 2002
Deadline: 28 November 2002
PMA Recruitment Contact: Dominic Goslett
E-Mail: pma.sales@totalise.co.uk
Tel: 02076888000
Fax: 02076886060
Our client is globally recognised within the Video and Audio conferencing industry.Its continued growth has led to an excellent opportunity to work in the South East of England. Selling Audio and Video services to businesses in West London, Herts, Oxon and Bucks, you will live on or near the territory with at least one years new business sales experience and an enthusiastic personality.
Successful candidates will be from a solution sales background and have the ability to thrive in a high pressure sales environment. In return you will receive excellent support with an extensive remuneration package and great career potential.
Contact Dominic at PMA Recruitment on pma.sales@totalise.co.uk quoting dg2
Role or Area: Sales & Business Development
Term Type: Permanent
Location: South East
Salary: £19k basic, £45k OTE uncapped car and all corporate benefits.
Starting: ASAP
Reference: jtdg2
Posted: 14 November 2002
Deadline: 28 November 2002
PMA Recruitment Contact: Dominic Goslett
E-Mail: pma.sales@totalise.co.uk
Tel: 02076888000
Fax: 02076886060
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20 November 2002, 06:31 PM
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thanks for replys, please keep 'em coming
have looked at jobserve and will trawl thro' some of the other ones. good luck to others who are in the same boat...
now where's that beer?
have looked at jobserve and will trawl thro' some of the other ones. good luck to others who are in the same boat...
now where's that beer?
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Tony (Burns), what telecoms firm did you work for? I got made redundant from Nortel Networks at the start of this month. I'm now working towards my CCNA (anything to keep me busy and stop me going mad at home!) while looking for jobs.
Seems it's a bad time of the year to get made redundant as i've had very little response from agencies.
Seems it's a bad time of the year to get made redundant as i've had very little response from agencies.
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25 November 2002, 04:32 PM
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It's not all bad out there; the key is to not want a job
I'm another nortel escapee who volunteered
No, not mad, I was fed up, and planning to do a ski season, travel, and do just about anything to avoid working for them.
So, sods law dictates, the new job found me, comprehensive payrise, change in role - in the direction I wanted to go, and erm, bang goes my plans Not stupid enough to turn it down.
FWIW I would offer the following advice / comment - all IMHO:
1) 2 years ago anyone was getting hired so long as they knew how to use a mouse, consequently there are a lot of folks about that know diddly. If this is you, er, bad luck
2) There *are* jobs, but it's square pegs for square holes. Employers can afford to be choosy. The rules have changed (Sadly!)
3) Do not trust / rely on the big 'one size fits all' agencies, or using the web to look for jobs. I actually don't know anyone who has got a job off the web. (this may be a statistical anomaly) I much prefer using the telephone and !talking! to peeps. That way you have an identity. I personally use a small, trusted agency I've used for ages. Their client base may be smaller, however they know me, and know their clients well, a recommendation goes a long way. I am lucky! Try researching companies directly, and contacting directly. Amongst other things, they like to save on agency fees!
5) Think about your interviews; I honestly believe it has a lot more to do with how you come across than what you know. Relax!
Of course, none of this may help, it may be that there isn't a job out there for you - at this moment in time. There will be, keep looking, it's easy to stop actively trying. It's very rare the job finds you. Hope this doesn't sound too patronising!
- Mark.
I'm another nortel escapee who volunteered
No, not mad, I was fed up, and planning to do a ski season, travel, and do just about anything to avoid working for them.So, sods law dictates, the new job found me, comprehensive payrise, change in role - in the direction I wanted to go, and erm, bang goes my plans
Not stupid enough to turn it down.FWIW I would offer the following advice / comment - all IMHO:
1) 2 years ago anyone was getting hired so long as they knew how to use a mouse, consequently there are a lot of folks about that know diddly. If this is you, er, bad luck
2) There *are* jobs, but it's square pegs for square holes. Employers can afford to be choosy. The rules have changed (Sadly!)
3) Do not trust / rely on the big 'one size fits all' agencies, or using the web to look for jobs. I actually don't know anyone who has got a job off the web. (this may be a statistical anomaly) I much prefer using the telephone and !talking! to peeps. That way you have an identity. I personally use a small, trusted agency I've used for ages. Their client base may be smaller, however they know me, and know their clients well, a recommendation goes a long way. I am lucky! Try researching companies directly, and contacting directly. Amongst other things, they like to save on agency fees!
5) Think about your interviews; I honestly believe it has a lot more to do with how you come across than what you know. Relax!
Of course, none of this may help, it may be that there isn't a job out there for you - at this moment in time. There will be, keep looking, it's easy to stop actively trying. It's very rare the job finds you. Hope this doesn't sound too patronising!
- Mark.
25 November 2002, 07:53 PM
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thanks, will look at ncipher
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what's this mouse thing you're talking about?
only kidding
went to see a specialist sales agency today. the tw*t consultant only seemed to operate in broadcast mode and didn't seem to want to talk about potential roles for me.
funny, i thought that was their point
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what's this mouse thing you're talking about?
only kidding
went to see a specialist sales agency today. the tw*t consultant only seemed to operate in broadcast mode and didn't seem to want to talk about potential roles for me.
funny, i thought that was their point
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Don't get me started on agencies! I once placed my cv with a certain large, well know IT agency; the chap assigned to me had just moved up from being a double glazing salesman. Need I say more
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