stevebt

iTrader: (8)

Looks like Apples new watch is a little bit of a racist









http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-32537030

JackClark

Worse title ever.

Apple watch has trouble with very dark tattoo's in the area where the reading is taken, that's not an apple problem it's a physics problem.

Now, on to the racist title, have a read of the article you posted

"Several smartwatches and wearable fitness devices that use similar sensor technology have also been reported to struggle when worn on darker coloured skin. In these cases the amount of light reflected back from deeper-coloured pigmentation of the skin is less than the device is calibrated for."

I'm not saying that the Apple Watch won't have the same problem but calling Apple Racist over problems reported with other devices is very weak.

Matteeboy

My word, when did you have your sense of humour surgically removed?

Apple watch wearers are fine - they're mostly sat in an office furious prodding their new wrist device pretending they've just run somewhere.

Those with a tan or tattoos wouldn't be seen dead with such a girly wrist piece.

Tidgy

uh, the watch dont work, therefore it is an apple problem lol

show a distinct lack of testing since they didnt know before hand.

Another chinese made, over priced crapple product

stevebt

iTrader: (8)

Title is smart watch, but BBC website says Apple headline It's tattoos and DARK SKIN colour which seems a little racist to me as it works on white people

LSherratt

iTrader: (1)

Oh hey Mattee, where have you been?

JackClark

I've heard of issues with prosthetic arms too, those *******s at Apple discriminating against chav tattoos and one armed bandits.

ScoobyDoo555

SO basically, whilst the specifics of the watch's operational issues can be argued (as can all other manufacturers), the one thing that appears irrefutable is this:-

P1SS poor R&D. You're telling me NOBODY thought to check if this would be an issue????

Of course, the other aspect would be that of COURSE they checked. They went ahead with the "fault" anyway.
This builds up publicity in the outrage.
The manufacturer announces a BIG update/recall (with a few other extras), and turns the whole thing around in a PR spin

Personally, (as I type this on my MacBook Pro, looking at both ipad & iphone and the other Apple resources in my house), I wouldn't be seen DEAD in an Apple Watch.
Not because of (dated) technology in it, but I see a watch as a piece of jewellery. Not a walking calculator!

#nerd

Wearable tech has a LONG way to go yet IMHO.

dpb

Yep, it probably counts as aspirational to be the white middle class in Apples book

And thus able to throw away cash on a fancy wristband

Matteeboy

If I want to "look good" for Apple watch money, I'd look at Christopher Ward, Longines or other lowish price automatic watches.

I really want the new Tudor North Flag but I absolutely do not need it!

JackClark

Those will look great with your tan and black tattooed wrist. Very manly.

ScoobyDoo555

The same will be said for those early adopters of an already out-of-date piece of wearable tech (not just Apple's offering).
It will look like what it is: a£400 piece of dated tat.
That you have to decide when to wear, as it can't go too long without charging.

No doubt, plenty of people will buy/have bought one. Each to their own. Just not for me.
Awful thing. I'll stick to my bits of Apple tech that are actually very good.

But I've said the wrong thing in Jack's forum (election week: vote to change the sub-forum name?)

pimmo2000

iTrader: (6)

Hang on, firstly I thought Apple was above the rest? secondly just because other watches are racist doesn't mean Apple isn't you would have thought, such a customer based and caring company would have tested the watch.. maybe?

If the report had been Android based you would have been all over it and that is the problem with the Apple vs Android fanboys, Apple are blinded and completely dominated by the brand name, regardless of the product.

JackClark

The reports of optical heart rate monitors not working on dark skin were not for the Apple Watch, maybe you should read before ranting.

It's downright hilarious that you think the Watch was not tested, shows your level of understanding.

dpb

Tested on the target audience I'm sure !


I'm sure its problem with the technology for this type of sensor

JackClark

Do you plonkers think black people are white people with all over tattoo's?

ScoobyDoo555

deleted as I feel better now I've said that

pimmo2000

iTrader: (6)

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technolog...-properly.html

Erm.. you sure?

My level of understanding? product released, issue with certain types of body / skin type .. sounds like a testing issue to me.

JackClark

Not working on Black tattoo's doesn't even need testing, it doesn't work on false arms and probably doesn't work on various other fringe cases, people like you are the reason McDonalds have to tell you their coffee is hot.

Virgin broadband doesn't work on the Macintosh Classic, should I call support or rant because Virgin didn't tell me it doesn't work if you don't have ethernet.... even though I don't own one. Grow the **** up.

pimmo2000

iTrader: (6)

Wow, what an angry man you are .. comparing someone with tattoo's to someone with a false arm .. this is a new level of Apple blindness.

It's rare I feel genuinely sorry for someone online, I truly hope you're a 15 year old trolling us.

JackClark

Wake the **** up Pimmo, you've been here a long time and this is I think the first time I've thought you're a ****.

You're calling me out for my false arm comment but lumping black people in with people with black tattoo is fine? Yes that makes me angry.

mrtheedge2u2

Jack is outraged. And if jack is outraged then I am outraged. Outraged I tell ya!!!!!

Jack probably went straight to his bedroom and slapped about his pillow with the Steve Jobs cover on it

Jack have you ever sat there thinking that you would love to be able to wear your Apple watch as a cockring?

JackClark

All in your mind son. Get help.

pimmo2000

iTrader: (6)

I'm not sure you even know what you're arguing about any more?

JackClark

Arguing, there's no arguing, you're ranting because heart rate sensors don't work with black tattoos, some idiots are assuming this includes black people, I'm just telling it straight, it doesn't work on black wrist tattoos, doesn't work on false arms but does work on black people. For some reason you're trying to call me out for that and you're failing.

pimmo2000

iTrader: (6)

I'm not calling you anywhere, but you might want to look into the BS you're posting..

http://natmonitor.com/2015/04/30/who...-black-people/

http://bossip.com/1137485/race-matte...but-heres-why/

No one has officially proven either way (that I've read) but you'd expect Apple to have come out and squashed this if it weren't true.

JackClark

Why would they squash something that's nothing to do with them? They have a great return policy of it doesn't work for you. By all accounts the heart rate monitor is better that expected, yet you focus on a fringe case just to find something negative. Pitiful.

dpb

Anyway Apparently you need to wear em so tight to get accurate readings they are uncomfortable

dpb

Probably almost as tight as the twine on jacks little toe , waiting for a bite

pimmo2000

iTrader: (6)

Pitiful? they would surely seek to supply the same "excellent" service to all customers.

But no you're right, if there's only a small number of people impacted it's not worth their time .. idiot