Iv been looking at type r's to get back into an Impreza.

It will strictly be used as a toy at weekend etc.

I have seen one advertised that me and a few friends plan on looking at in the near future.

Im still very much in two minds about getting another Subaru, but as one of my friends already owns a v4 sti type r, and another a P1, I cant help but get that feeling when either of them are around!!

Iv got a horrible feeling its going to cost me a fortune like the last one did!

 

Had a v4 sti type r a few years back had no problems with it after 4 years of ownership but i must admit they are now a 14 or so year old car so you must expect a few niggles .

 

V4 has abs, and airbag in steeringwheel different dash and come come with climate as opposed to ac i also think they got the 2 pot rear calipers, which to me is the only thing they have over the v3.

I bought the v3 as i don't like airbags and abs, v3 also has wilder cams and better heads so i'm told.

 

v4 type r dosent have abs mate.

 

Why would you not Luke airbags ?....

And all the sti version type r came without and.

 

It was bought as a week end trackday hillclimb and sprint car, and i don't fancy it blowing up in my face. they are not as fantastic as people think.

There is alot of data about early ones doing quite a bit of damage and even blinding people.

 

The one i looked at did.

 

Intercooler water spray bottle is where the abs normally is (well it is on mine).

Love my 98 Type R has had to have both rear wheel bearings changed and cam cover gaskets in 2 years of ownership it has a few squeaks and rattles but ,as mentioned earlier,it is nearly 14 years old.

 

my v4 aint got abs its had airbag fitted which is a bonus if you planning on using it weekends i cant see it being to expensive mate i got my type-r as a weekender as its a totally different drive to my uk2000

ian

 

If people wore seatbelts then they wouldnt get as many blinding injuries! though unless you have been in a car that has had an airbag deployed, you wont know how good they are

Tony

 

My V4 has ABS

Of all 7 Scooby's owned the Type R is the most fun of 'em all, but is also proving to be one of the most expensive

 

Thats a wrx type r not a sti type r, no sti type r has abs.

 

WRX Type R had ABS the STI Type R's don't.

Just get one and enjoy you won't look back.

I had a modded uk before and the type R is so much more fun

 

ABS was an option on the R's you either went for Ghey B.S or water spray.


I love my V4 type R five years on!

 

It is actually an STi

 

Then it will be fitted with the dccd, a quick rack (noted its a limited) and no abs (even though the for sale ad points to it being a wrx type r)
Tony

 

sti s usually have stickers on the wings,also they redline @ 8000 not 7500.
Nice car though.

 

OK, I'll come clean - I was playing Devil's Advocate there.

I bought the car on the assumption it is a WRX V-Ltd (still do think this). A couple have doubted this, and I was down at Powerstation last week and after me saying WRX, they said STi, and would not budge...

 

Abs was not an option with dccd equipped cars in the classic range.....end of.

 

I went down the route of getting a P1 as it seemed to be the right choice for the UK.

The Type-R has different suspention set up ( which can be changed easily enough ), I beliave it's a harder ride , but is very focused like an Evo would be.

The ABS on the P1 for me was a preferred choice , mainly due to the sheer ompth the car has it would be too easy for me to lock the wheels up and end up in some random ditch.

The Type-R has an intercooler spray which is sadly missing on the P1

The Type=R's I seen have a better clister layout with the rev count as the main big dial and the speedo is to the right. Again it's just a more focused direction , but one that I think is more useful.

The areo on the P1 makes a difference. At 100mph the car i using something like 3bhp less. Also I think the looks of the P1 is a more pretty car.

Insurance is a fair bit cheaper with a Type-R ( I was quoted £680 for a Type-R and I pay £1100 for my P1 )

I'm not sure if the Type-R's faced similar issues with the engines as the P1 did , but the Type-R seems to be a more reliable engine

The gear ratios differ , I think the Type-R has a lower gearing in 5th than the P1 , if memory serves me right I think it equates to 500rpm difference.

Hope i have been able to give you another view.

 

I went Type R rather than P1. The R happened to be a V4 WRX V-Ltd which I believe has the RA gearing which is not as close ratio as the STi. I sold a V4 STi a few years back due to its manic gearing. The RA gearing means max speed of ~150 rather than ~125 in the STi.

Good P1's are hard to find, old, and for my money would have to have had an engine rebuild and then been mapped to UK fuel. With this done they are pricey

I've replaced the suspension for P1 struts & springs, as this is my preference for road use.

DCCD can be fun, but I for UK road driving I'll take ABS. Adjustable ARB's can dial in preferred front rear bias

Intercooler spray is only really effective whilst sat in traffic, or very slow driving.

 

For a normal good everyday road car, the P1 is a safe bet with its ABS, longer gearing and no DCCD.

I myself prefer my twin scroll, AVCs equiped V4 type R with Dccd, great fun on the road and in sprints, but can be a bit tiring on the motorway.

 

Type r sti v3 for the win

 

This is all interesting reading.

 

Thanks for all of the replies guys.

The guy car I was thinking of going to see is currently unavailable due to the owner being on hliday for a week, so will try and arranage to view it when he is back. After all im in no hurry.

I prefer the harshness of the type R, as it will only be used rarely as a bit of fun.

The seller did mention it had been mapped by Richard Cope, who I believe is associated with "FB Tuning" who I have found online and mentioned on this site a few times.

But I dont seem to be able to find a link between this person and mapping. A little confusing.

 

you wont have any worries there,rich knows his stuff,
hes building my engine at the moment!

 

Ok thats good to hear, iv just not been able to find any link between himself and mapping.

Does he post on here?

 

yes,he has mapped quite a few members cars on here.

 

i thought they couldnt get abs working with dccd well back then, hence the p1 having abs but no ddcd? so no type-r with abs?