v4 sti type R, pro's & con's
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v4 sti type R, pro's & con's
Iv been looking at type r's to get back into an Impreza.
It will strictly be used as a toy at weekend etc.
I have seen one advertised that me and a few friends plan on looking at in the near future.
Im still very much in two minds about getting another Subaru, but as one of my friends already owns a v4 sti type r, and another a P1, I cant help but get that feeling when either of them are around!!
Iv got a horrible feeling its going to cost me a fortune like the last one did!
It will strictly be used as a toy at weekend etc.
I have seen one advertised that me and a few friends plan on looking at in the near future.
Im still very much in two minds about getting another Subaru, but as one of my friends already owns a v4 sti type r, and another a P1, I cant help but get that feeling when either of them are around!!
Iv got a horrible feeling its going to cost me a fortune like the last one did!
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Had a v4 sti type r a few years back had no problems with it after 4 years of ownership but i must admit they are now a 14 or so year old car so you must expect a few niggles .
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V4 has abs, and airbag in steeringwheel different dash and come come with climate as opposed to ac i also think they got the 2 pot rear calipers, which to me is the only thing they have over the v3.
I bought the v3 as i don't like airbags and abs, v3 also has wilder cams and better heads so i'm told.
I bought the v3 as i don't like airbags and abs, v3 also has wilder cams and better heads so i'm told.
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V4 has abs, and airbag in steeringwheel different dash and come come with climate as opposed to ac i also think they got the 2 pot rear calipers, which to me is the only thing they have over the v3.
I bought the v3 as i don't like airbags and abs, v3 also has wilder cams and better heads so i'm told.
I bought the v3 as i don't like airbags and abs, v3 also has wilder cams and better heads so i'm told.
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Intercooler water spray bottle is where the abs normally is (well it is on mine).
Love my 98 Type R has had to have both rear wheel bearings changed and cam cover gaskets in 2 years of ownership it has a few squeaks and rattles but ,as mentioned earlier,it is nearly 14 years old.
Love my 98 Type R has had to have both rear wheel bearings changed and cam cover gaskets in 2 years of ownership it has a few squeaks and rattles but ,as mentioned earlier,it is nearly 14 years old.
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my v4 aint got abs its had airbag fitted which is a bonus if you planning on using it weekends i cant see it being to expensive mate i got my type-r as a weekender as its a totally different drive to my uk2000
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I went down the route of getting a P1 as it seemed to be the right choice for the UK.
The Type-R has different suspention set up ( which can be changed easily enough ), I beliave it's a harder ride , but is very focused like an Evo would be.
The ABS on the P1 for me was a preferred choice , mainly due to the sheer ompth the car has it would be too easy for me to lock the wheels up and end up in some random ditch.
The Type-R has an intercooler spray which is sadly missing on the P1
The Type=R's I seen have a better clister layout with the rev count as the main big dial and the speedo is to the right. Again it's just a more focused direction , but one that I think is more useful.
The areo on the P1 makes a difference. At 100mph the car i using something like 3bhp less. Also I think the looks of the P1 is a more pretty car.
Insurance is a fair bit cheaper with a Type-R ( I was quoted £680 for a Type-R and I pay £1100 for my P1 )
I'm not sure if the Type-R's faced similar issues with the engines as the P1 did , but the Type-R seems to be a more reliable engine
The gear ratios differ , I think the Type-R has a lower gearing in 5th than the P1 , if memory serves me right I think it equates to 500rpm difference.
Hope i have been able to give you another view.
The Type-R has different suspention set up ( which can be changed easily enough ), I beliave it's a harder ride , but is very focused like an Evo would be.
The ABS on the P1 for me was a preferred choice , mainly due to the sheer ompth the car has it would be too easy for me to lock the wheels up and end up in some random ditch.
The Type-R has an intercooler spray which is sadly missing on the P1
The Type=R's I seen have a better clister layout with the rev count as the main big dial and the speedo is to the right. Again it's just a more focused direction , but one that I think is more useful.
The areo on the P1 makes a difference. At 100mph the car i using something like 3bhp less. Also I think the looks of the P1 is a more pretty car.
Insurance is a fair bit cheaper with a Type-R ( I was quoted £680 for a Type-R and I pay £1100 for my P1 )
I'm not sure if the Type-R's faced similar issues with the engines as the P1 did , but the Type-R seems to be a more reliable engine
The gear ratios differ , I think the Type-R has a lower gearing in 5th than the P1 , if memory serves me right I think it equates to 500rpm difference.
Hope i have been able to give you another view.
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I went down the route of getting a P1 as it seemed to be the right choice for the UK.
The Type-R has different suspention set up ( which can be changed easily enough ), I beliave it's a harder ride , but is very focused like an Evo would be.
The ABS on the P1 for me was a preferred choice , mainly due to the sheer ompth the car has it would be too easy for me to lock the wheels up and end up in some random ditch.
The Type-R has an intercooler spray which is sadly missing on the P1
The Type=R's I seen have a better clister layout with the rev count as the main big dial and the speedo is to the right. Again it's just a more focused direction , but one that I think is more useful.
The areo on the P1 makes a difference. At 100mph the car i using something like 3bhp less. Also I think the looks of the P1 is a more pretty car.
Insurance is a fair bit cheaper with a Type-R ( I was quoted £680 for a Type-R and I pay £1100 for my P1 )
I'm not sure if the Type-R's faced similar issues with the engines as the P1 did , but the Type-R seems to be a more reliable engine
The gear ratios differ , I think the Type-R has a lower gearing in 5th than the P1 , if memory serves me right I think it equates to 500rpm difference.
Hope i have been able to give you another view.
The Type-R has different suspention set up ( which can be changed easily enough ), I beliave it's a harder ride , but is very focused like an Evo would be.
The ABS on the P1 for me was a preferred choice , mainly due to the sheer ompth the car has it would be too easy for me to lock the wheels up and end up in some random ditch.
The Type-R has an intercooler spray which is sadly missing on the P1
The Type=R's I seen have a better clister layout with the rev count as the main big dial and the speedo is to the right. Again it's just a more focused direction , but one that I think is more useful.
The areo on the P1 makes a difference. At 100mph the car i using something like 3bhp less. Also I think the looks of the P1 is a more pretty car.
Insurance is a fair bit cheaper with a Type-R ( I was quoted £680 for a Type-R and I pay £1100 for my P1 )
I'm not sure if the Type-R's faced similar issues with the engines as the P1 did , but the Type-R seems to be a more reliable engine
The gear ratios differ , I think the Type-R has a lower gearing in 5th than the P1 , if memory serves me right I think it equates to 500rpm difference.
Hope i have been able to give you another view.
Good P1's are hard to find, old, and for my money would have to have had an engine rebuild and then been mapped to UK fuel. With this done they are pricey
I've replaced the suspension for P1 struts & springs, as this is my preference for road use.
DCCD can be fun, but I for UK road driving I'll take ABS. Adjustable ARB's can dial in preferred front rear bias
Intercooler spray is only really effective whilst sat in traffic, or very slow driving.
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For a normal good everyday road car, the P1 is a safe bet with its ABS, longer gearing and no DCCD.
I myself prefer my twin scroll, AVCs equiped V4 type R with Dccd, great fun on the road and in sprints, but can be a bit tiring on the motorway.
I myself prefer my twin scroll, AVCs equiped V4 type R with Dccd, great fun on the road and in sprints, but can be a bit tiring on the motorway.
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Thanks for all of the replies guys.
The guy car I was thinking of going to see is currently unavailable due to the owner being on hliday for a week, so will try and arranage to view it when he is back. After all im in no hurry.
I prefer the harshness of the type R, as it will only be used rarely as a bit of fun.
The seller did mention it had been mapped by Richard Cope, who I believe is associated with "FB Tuning" who I have found online and mentioned on this site a few times.
But I dont seem to be able to find a link between this person and mapping. A little confusing.
The guy car I was thinking of going to see is currently unavailable due to the owner being on hliday for a week, so will try and arranage to view it when he is back. After all im in no hurry.
I prefer the harshness of the type R, as it will only be used rarely as a bit of fun.
The seller did mention it had been mapped by Richard Cope, who I believe is associated with "FB Tuning" who I have found online and mentioned on this site a few times.
But I dont seem to be able to find a link between this person and mapping. A little confusing.
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Thanks for all of the replies guys.
The guy car I was thinking of going to see is currently unavailable due to the owner being on hliday for a week, so will try and arranage to view it when he is back. After all im in no hurry.
I prefer the harshness of the type R, as it will only be used rarely as a bit of fun.
The seller did mention it had been mapped by Richard Cope, who I believe is associated with "FB Tuning" who I have found online and mentioned on this site a few times.
But I dont seem to be able to find a link between this person and mapping. A little confusing.
The guy car I was thinking of going to see is currently unavailable due to the owner being on hliday for a week, so will try and arranage to view it when he is back. After all im in no hurry.
I prefer the harshness of the type R, as it will only be used rarely as a bit of fun.
The seller did mention it had been mapped by Richard Cope, who I believe is associated with "FB Tuning" who I have found online and mentioned on this site a few times.
But I dont seem to be able to find a link between this person and mapping. A little confusing.
you wont have any worries there,rich knows his stuff,
hes building my engine at the moment!
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