how much power can newage gearbox take
Feb 5, 2009 | 09:07 PM
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how much power can newage gearbox take
currently running 350bhp on a 2004 wrx, is the gearbox at its limit?
Feb 5, 2009 | 09:46 PM
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have read about WRX gearboxes taking as much as 400bhp, if you dont rag it everywhere you will be ok but completely on the limit, STI gearboxes can 400 safer
Feb 6, 2009 | 06:37 PM
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From: The right side of 30psi
It's mainly torque that kills gearboxes, in particular 3rd gear is the weakest.
about 380 lb/ft is the most your box will reliably handle.
Feb 13, 2009 | 09:20 AM
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I've been running 350ish and then 390ish bhp (335, then 354 and then 392 lbft torque) for 9000 miles now, still fine, but my uprated clutch is starting to smell a bit
Most of my driving is motorways and country back roads, and I never ever launch it in first etc, although do "boot it" several times in second and third every day.
Feb 13, 2009 | 10:02 AM
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From: 1600cc's of twin scroll fun :)
Rated at 450-500lb ft of torque
Tony
Feb 13, 2009 | 10:03 AM
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TonyBurns
Rated at 450-500lb ft of torque
Tony
For the WRX? I'll be happy if it is
Feb 13, 2009 | 10:07 AM
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I have a 2005 WRX that i've recently converted to a 2.5. It minced the box in 2000 miles of sensible driving !!!
Feb 13, 2009 | 10:33 AM
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From: 1600cc's of twin scroll fun :)
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Henrik
For the WRX? I'll be happy if it is
Doh i should read properly
thats the STI 6 speed box
About 350 max for the 5 speed on a 2.5ltr
Tony
Feb 13, 2009 | 05:51 PM
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360bhp and 343lbft on my 01WRX 5spd was ok with normal driving.
Now going to PPG though.
Feb 16, 2009 | 12:06 AM
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Stuart Page
360bhp and 343lbft on my 01WRX 5spd was ok with normal driving.
Now going to PPG though.
Mind me asking how much you're paying for the PPG? I might be in the market for one at some point too
Feb 17, 2009 | 05:14 PM
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mine lasted 10k miles running 320 lbs with 390 bhp, never broke it to be honest just swapped to ppg
not worth doing unless you understand that its a matter of when rather than if you need to replace
knowing the gearbox is only a few good launches away from death take the fun out of it IMHO
Feb 17, 2009 | 08:51 PM
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Henrik
Mind me asking how much you're paying for the PPG? I might be in the market for one at some point too
Picked mine up 2nd hand, can pm if you want. Would have had to save another 6 months if i'd bought new
Feb 17, 2009 | 11:39 PM
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Henrik
Mind me asking how much you're paying for the PPG? I might be in the market for one at some point too
about £3.5k roughly for built ppg straight cut box (5 speed) nearer £4.5k for a 6 speeder
Feb 18, 2009 | 10:43 AM
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TonyBurns
Rated at 450-500lb ft of torque
Tony
AN sti 6 SPEED can take this power?
what can the standard sti clutch and flywheel take then?
regards
Feb 18, 2009 | 11:16 AM
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From: London
Hmm, I need to save some more then .. I have about 1500 stashed away for the purpose of gearbox replacement which I'm hoping will get me a 6 speeder to fit myself once the current box goes, but a straight cut PPG just sounds *so* good
Feb 18, 2009 | 11:17 AM
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Btw, what are parts like for the PPG? I'm thinking that if I bought a 2nd hand one, would I be able to get spares easily if I then dropped a cog?
Feb 18, 2009 | 12:23 PM
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stevie1982
AN sti 6 SPEED can take this power?
what can the standard sti clutch and flywheel take then?
regards
Approx high 300's of torque, driven with respect
Feb 18, 2009 | 12:24 PM
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Henrik
Btw, what are parts like for the PPG? I'm thinking that if I bought a 2nd hand one, would I be able to get spares easily if I then dropped a cog?
Spares are easy to get, the guy who had my car before me some how broke a cog and it was up and running again in no time.
When i took the car off him i had the box rebuilt again and it has been great.
Im trying to get rid of it at the mo though as im driving the car a lot and im fed up with the wine! 5 speed straight cut.
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