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Old Dec 27, 2008 | 06:22 PM
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I love the acceleration of my RA cdb with fe td05, 550's, front mount etc but will I really miss my ra gearbox if I fit the wrx one?? Does the loss of acceleration greatly outweigh the gearing of a wrx????

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Old Dec 27, 2008 | 06:25 PM
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PS> it's aweekend toy with all the bits to swap, diff drive shafts etc.
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Old Dec 27, 2008 | 06:27 PM
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Think you,re answering your own questions fella..
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Old Dec 27, 2008 | 07:57 PM
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But how much slower will the acceleration be?? Is it noticable ??
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Old Dec 27, 2008 | 08:00 PM
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leave it as a beast or change the car....mine is the same & it get's me down on long runs on big roads...but hell that's not what an RA is ment for after all.

get out around the twisties on some good A&B roads out in the countryside you'll forget about your gearing then.....safely I might add
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Old Dec 27, 2008 | 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by minty
I love the acceleration of my RA cdb with fe td05, 550's, front mount etc but will I really miss my ra gearbox if I fit the wrx one?? Does the loss of acceleration greatly outweigh the gearing of a wrx????

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I found the RA one slower TBH, it feels faster thats all because your changing gear so much.

overall i believe wrx gearing is the best compromise.
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Old Dec 27, 2008 | 08:35 PM
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I think it will be either six of one or half a dozen of the other ??? I swapped my WRX box for an RA box and I loved the acceleration but on the 1/4 strip I am pretty sure the WRX box wins for longer gears. Personally if its a pretty standard car I would stick with RA gearing as its more fun
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Old Dec 27, 2008 | 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by 172sport
I found the RA one slower TBH, it feels faster thats all because your changing gear so much.

overall i believe wrx gearing is the best compromise.
Yet the RA has a 0-60 a second less than the WRX, with the same power.
I had a 2.5 coverted classic UK 95, and now the RA, i'd take the RA's gearing any day! I love the way it's always ready to go, it picks up amazingly.
Don't change it!
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Old Dec 27, 2008 | 08:43 PM
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I had a 93 wrx and now ive got a v3 sti ra.

Ra for me anytime

It may be a pain not being able to do 120mph+ (private road......) but I did'nt buy the RA to do big speeds. I bought the RA for acceleration and to put a big smile on my face. I would'nt go back to wrx gearing now
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Old Dec 27, 2008 | 09:01 PM
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Originally Posted by mit
Yet the RA has a 0-60 a second less than the WRX, with the same power.
I had a 2.5 coverted classic UK 95, and now the RA, i'd take the RA's gearing any day! I love the way it's always ready to go, it picks up amazingly.
Don't change it!

I know the figures, but with every gear change i lost 4 car lengths against my mates P1, with the wrx box i dont, go figure????
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Old Dec 27, 2008 | 09:10 PM
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I must admit, i've got a quick shift, which shortens the throw quite a lot, making gear changes quicker, and with 330bhp, it's wicked!
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The main ingredient that makes the RA and RA is the group N gearbox, take that away and the characteristics of the car have gone.

I take my RA to Wales and back once a month which is a 300 mile round trip, thats 200 miles on the M4 and 100 miles on A and B roads. The car is never taken over 70mph because of the obvious, i find it fine at 70mph even if a little noisy.

You would be better off selling up and buying an STI or a WRX imo.
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Old Dec 27, 2008 | 09:59 PM
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Originally Posted by 172sport
I know the figures, but with every gear change i lost 4 car lengths against my mates P1, with the wrx box i dont, go figure????
I have no idea how you lost that much ground. At santapod this year myself and a mate who owns a 93wrx went against each other, he was running more power than me at the time. We were neck and neck until i changed into 5th, he crossed the line at 13.1 and me 13.3.
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Originally Posted by jayallen
I have no idea how you lost that much ground. At santapod this year myself and a mate who owns a 93wrx went against each other, he was running more power than me at the time. We were neck and neck until i changed into 5th, he crossed the line at 13.1 and me 13.3.
What power were you/he running?
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285 to his 318
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Old Dec 27, 2008 | 10:16 PM
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I think all this short ratio gearbox is a load of bollox, its a false positive if you know what I mean. Your accelerating harder because of the shorter gears but you change gear more so inturn losing time by not being on the power. I have a wrx and found that at 300bhp on the road my freind in his rb5 with 285bhp would leave me as he had the longer uk gearing. I changed mine to a uk box soon after and it tranformed the car, IE:- being able to use the power longer in every gear not just getting going and then having to change up.


Put a uk box in you wont regret it.


Cheers Dougie
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Old Dec 27, 2008 | 10:24 PM
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Originally Posted by minty
But how much slower will the acceleration be?? Is it noticable ??
It depends which model. They had less manic final drives as the models progressed.
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Old Dec 27, 2008 | 10:53 PM
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Originally Posted by dougwrx
I think all this short ratio gearbox is a load of bollox, its a false positive if you know what I mean. Your accelerating harder because of the shorter gears but you change gear more so inturn losing time by not being on the power. I have a wrx and found that at 300bhp on the road my freind in his rb5 with 285bhp would leave me as he had the longer uk gearing. I changed mine to a uk box soon after and it tranformed the car, IE:- being able to use the power longer in every gear not just getting going and then having to change up.


Put a uk box in you wont regret it.


Cheers Dougie

Excactly my point, I was in 4th while he was changing 2nd to 3rd.
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Old Dec 28, 2008 | 12:59 AM
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mine is a version 6, has manic 1st to 4th but 5th is slightly taller so I can comfortable cruise at the legal limits but it will get the car to 150 mph... on the redline

As for gearing... for me it makes a difference but it all depends on how and where you drive your car. I take my RA out mainly for the point to point ability and I have nailed my mates JDM STi classic over a stretch of pretty touch country roads.

However it's the opposite on long carriage ways, I can out accelerate him but he has the advantage of more headroom with his gearbox so pulls away at the top end sooner (same for any car vs the RA's I guess).

Also the VF28 on my RA seems to work very well in the short ratio's I have and I have no turbo lag or none that I have noticed - that may be because of the ratios being so close and as such the turbo being on song much quicker... just my experience of it all.
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Old Jan 20, 2009 | 09:53 PM
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i have a WRX box too, could i take the 5th gear out of the UK box and fit that to the RA box to give me great 1st to 4th and then a longer 5th ???

Is that possible??

Will it be a huge increase from 4th to 5th ????
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Originally Posted by minty
i have a WRX box too, could i take the 5th gear out of the UK box and fit that to the RA box to give me great 1st to 4th and then a longer 5th ???

Is that possible??

Will it be a huge increase from 4th to 5th ????
Thats what i did.

1-4 ra box and 5th wrx

sold it on because it didnt feel right with such a big drop.

I'm guessing it will be the same if your planning wrx 1-4 and uk 5th
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