Plus members can now ban trolls!!
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Plus members can now ban trolls!!
OK, it is clear from both the survey, and the regular comments that one of the biggest irritations on scoobynet is the dribble spouted by the few trolls we tend to attract from time to time.
Well, here's some good news. ScoobyNet Plus members can now use the "Infractions" tool next to everyone's name (see the Yellow / Red card icon).
The Infractions system allows plus members to "Add Infraction Points" to members for a set number of specific reasons such as trolling, racist comments, abusing comments, etc.
These points last a certain number of days (indicated in the control screen) and if enough points are accumulated (not that many actually) the user will be automatically banned from ScoobyNet.
In certain cases, these infractions may be overruled by us, and we may in very unusual circumstances consider reinstating members.
WARNING : Anyone who abuses the system for their own person reasons will receive infraction points also, and will potentially be banned without refund.
Why Only Plus Members?
As with all systems like this, it could be open to abuse from idiots using it to ban people who should not have been. We would, of course, ban members who did this, but then, this is no problem if you've just set up an account purely for this reason. By limiting to Plus members, people will have to pay for this privilege and will not be refunded once they are banned.
Please use this system wisely, and it could very quickly make it pretty much impossible for trolls and other undesirables to operate here.
Well, here's some good news. ScoobyNet Plus members can now use the "Infractions" tool next to everyone's name (see the Yellow / Red card icon).
The Infractions system allows plus members to "Add Infraction Points" to members for a set number of specific reasons such as trolling, racist comments, abusing comments, etc.
These points last a certain number of days (indicated in the control screen) and if enough points are accumulated (not that many actually) the user will be automatically banned from ScoobyNet.
In certain cases, these infractions may be overruled by us, and we may in very unusual circumstances consider reinstating members.
WARNING : Anyone who abuses the system for their own person reasons will receive infraction points also, and will potentially be banned without refund.
Why Only Plus Members?
As with all systems like this, it could be open to abuse from idiots using it to ban people who should not have been. We would, of course, ban members who did this, but then, this is no problem if you've just set up an account purely for this reason. By limiting to Plus members, people will have to pay for this privilege and will not be refunded once they are banned.
Please use this system wisely, and it could very quickly make it pretty much impossible for trolls and other undesirables to operate here.
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LOL
We're actually going to upgrade the Plus membership also.. First, its now available on a £2 per month, monthly billing option, but we're going to offer a load of more features, which we'll announce shortly.
We're actually going to upgrade the Plus membership also.. First, its now available on a £2 per month, monthly billing option, but we're going to offer a load of more features, which we'll announce shortly.
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Very interesting, I was wondering if/when the infraction system would be put in place. Seems somewhat fair that only plus members can do it, though have you given consideration to maybe an honorary membership/group that has the abilty to give infractions, something along the lines of a "moderator lite" group? The idea being that a person isn't a full moderator, but an assistant of sorts to the moderators, helping to clean the forums up by giving infractions to trolls/annoying users.
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Hi Anthony
We'll look into other methods, but this isn't going to happen quickly. Paypal is so outrageously widely used now, I'm surprised you wouldn't trust it. You also bought your ScoobyLIVE tickets through it (thank : look forward to seeign you there!
) but I think it would be worth having at least one other payment option.
Markus
LOL. Captain complex again
. I'm sure the plus members will be able to handle it on their own, so I don't think the honorary membership group will be necessary.
We'll look into other methods, but this isn't going to happen quickly. Paypal is so outrageously widely used now, I'm surprised you wouldn't trust it. You also bought your ScoobyLIVE tickets through it (thank : look forward to seeign you there!
) but I think it would be worth having at least one other payment option.Markus
LOL. Captain complex again
. I'm sure the plus members will be able to handle it on their own, so I don't think the honorary membership group will be necessary.
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i would only become a member to get a bigger pm box
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Was just thinking out loud in case not all the plus membership decided to take up arms against the trolls.One question about the system though. Can Plus Members give an infraction to another Plus Mebmer?
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Very interesting, I was wondering if/when the infraction system would be put in place. Seems somewhat fair that only plus members can do it, though have you given consideration to maybe an honorary membership/group that has the abilty to give infractions, something along the lines of a "moderator lite" group? The idea being that a person isn't a full moderator, but an assistant of sorts to the moderators, helping to clean the forums up by giving infractions to trolls/annoying users.
some plus members might be trolls
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I can't believe the hoo-har involved in these 'trolls'.
It's like the people up in arms have nothing better to do, I think a dose of reality is involved ( not jasey @ work ).
SNet is by comparison a very small space on the internet, take it for what it is.
It's like the people up in arms have nothing better to do, I think a dose of reality is involved ( not jasey @ work
).SNet is by comparison a very small space on the internet, take it for what it is.
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its going to end up like the rep system 
markus was given a really hard time here with the rep points. he was red blobbed to death. but he shouldnt have to get membership to protect himself.
i think anyone with a post count of 3000 posts or less should be the ones that cant give out cards......or go by join dates, seems a lot fairer to me
markus was given a really hard time here with the rep points. he was red blobbed to death. but he shouldnt have to get membership to protect himself.
i think anyone with a post count of 3000 posts or less should be the ones that cant give out cards......or go by join dates, seems a lot fairer to me
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As I'm not a plus member I'm open to be given an infraction or two, plus I cannot give any infractions, which is somewhat tempting to do to a few of the trolls (both the obvious and not so obvious ones).
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It's really a solution without a problem, most people come on here to chat about Subarus. Some come to chat with their mates about any old subject and have a laugh and about 1% seem to come on here to be abusive and wind people up.
Tis quite easy to ignore the 1% I feel.
Tis quite easy to ignore the 1% I feel.
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If there is a sense of victimization going on then I'm sure it'll be dealt with properly, as said by Simon/Shaun, if the system is abused then those members will be banned.
As I'm not a plus member I'm open to be given an infraction or two, plus I cannot give any infractions, which is somewhat tempting to do to a few of the trolls (both the obvious and not so obvious ones).
As I'm not a plus member I'm open to be given an infraction or two, plus I cannot give any infractions, which is somewhat tempting to do to a few of the trolls (both the obvious and not so obvious ones).
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If there is a sense of victimization going on then I'm sure it'll be dealt with properly, as said by Simon/Shaun, if the system is abused then those members will be banned.
As I'm not a plus member I'm open to be given an infraction or two, plus I cannot give any infractions, which is somewhat tempting to do to a few of the trolls (both the obvious and not so obvious ones).
As I'm not a plus member I'm open to be given an infraction or two, plus I cannot give any infractions, which is somewhat tempting to do to a few of the trolls (both the obvious and not so obvious ones).
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its going to end up like the rep system
markus was given a really hard time here with the rep points. he was red blobbed to death. but he shouldnt have to get membership to protect himself.
i think anyone with a post count of 3000 posts or less should be the ones that cant give out cards......or go by join dates, seems a lot fairer to me
markus was given a really hard time here with the rep points. he was red blobbed to death. but he shouldnt have to get membership to protect himself.
i think anyone with a post count of 3000 posts or less should be the ones that cant give out cards......or go by join dates, seems a lot fairer to me
If someone wishes to give me an infraction then so be it. I would assume that it is NOT anonymous (I know the system can be setup this way, but given the debacle over the anonymity of the reputation system I think a lesson might have been learnt there) thus I'll know who gave me the infraction along with what it was for. If I feel they are being petty then I'll appeal against it, if it's justified then I'll accept it.
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It's really a solution without a problem, most people come on here to chat about Subarus. Some come to chat with their mates about any old subject and have a laugh and about 1% seem to come on here to be abusive and wind people up.
Tis quite easy to ignore the 1% I feel.
Tis quite easy to ignore the 1% I feel.
ive just thought, why should getting rid of the trolls be down to us, surely its a job the moderators should deal with?
this new system is just going to cause more unrest
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sara
Plus members have always had a bigger pm inbox.
hectic
Incorrect, re-read my first post.
sara
No it isn't. The problems that occurred with the rep system are countered by only allow plus members to give infractions.
Calm down woman. Plus membership won't protect you anyway. I think you've misunderstood.
I'm sure it does.. but it would do wouldn't it? What if someone else said that it should only be for people who haven't posted in the muppet forum?
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To be clear. Only plus members (and moderators obviously) can give infractions. ANYONE can receive infractions - Including plus members. Infractions can be reversed by us if necessary. Abusers of the infraction system will be banned without refund.
Plus members have always had a bigger pm inbox.
hectic
Incorrect, re-read my first post.
sara
its going to end up like the rep system
markus was given a really hard time here with the rep points. he was red blobbed to death. but he shouldnt have to get membership to protect himself.
i think anyone with a post count of 3000 posts or less should be the ones that cant give out cards......or go by join dates, seems a lot fairer to me
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To be clear. Only plus members (and moderators obviously) can give infractions. ANYONE can receive infractions - Including plus members. Infractions can be reversed by us if necessary. Abusers of the infraction system will be banned without refund.
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This is possible. However, there are far fewer plus users than there are us mere mortals, so that should limit the impact. If there are plus members who are going to be vindictive then report them for doing so and if the case is just they'll lose their ability to give infractions and those they gave in the act of vindictiveness will be revoked.
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Many thanks for your quick response to my question regarding Paypal. Yes I did use it to pay for my ScoobyLive ticket(s).
I am just very wary of it as a few weeks ago I received several emails in my hotmail account from paypal stating that my account was going to be suspended and that I had to enter my username and password. As far as I was concerned I did not have a paypal account and it just made me suspicious.
My wife works for a software reseller and is very clued up on spam emails and what fraudulent ones are flying about.
Anthony
I am just very wary of it as a few weeks ago I received several emails in my hotmail account from paypal stating that my account was going to be suspended and that I had to enter my username and password. As far as I was concerned I did not have a paypal account and it just made me suspicious.
My wife works for a software reseller and is very clued up on spam emails and what fraudulent ones are flying about.
Anthony
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ive just thought, why should getting rid of the trolls be down to us, surely its a job the moderators should deal with?
this new system is just going to cause more unrest
this new system is just going to cause more unrest
THIS IS SIMPLE...
If a lot of plus members think that you do one of the following :
Post Spammed Adverts
Make Racist Comments
Are abusive to other members
Are Trolling the boards
Then you will be banned. If this turns out to be unjustified, then you will be Unbanned. But it would have meant that A NUMBER of people felt that A NUMBER of your posts justified an infraction.
Bottom Line. This is happening. We'll fine tune it and review once we've got a bit of time under our belt.