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Old Sep 10, 2003 | 12:42 PM
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Ipalmer - I *think* I may have a spare one, that was on a hub I removed.

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Old Sep 10, 2003 | 03:00 PM
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i think it is alloy

right on with brakes, or i'll be here forever

edited 'coz i had an idea that didn't work


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Old Sep 10, 2003 | 07:28 PM
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That bit looks like cast iron. Does anyone know if cast iron can be welded?
STILL cheaper, even if it needs specialist help, than having it rplaced at £350 for the part alone

My lad got an alloy frame welded for a trials bike recently, £25 all in. Perfect job.
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Old Oct 9, 2003 | 12:38 PM
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i'm in the middle of changing the discs and pads on my car , i won't go in to detail , but i've broke the part in the picture



questions :

1. what is it ?

2. can i put the car back together and drive it ?

3. how do i get it off , and where's the best place for a new / 2nd. hand one ?

cheers

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Old Oct 9, 2003 | 12:39 PM
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is that not something to do with the ABS?
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Old Oct 9, 2003 | 12:40 PM
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ABS pickup You should be able to drive it if you remove the ABS fuse but that part's going to need replacing
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how do i get it off , and where's the best place for a new / 2nd. hand one ?
Hub nut then undo the allen screws in blue?

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Old Oct 9, 2003 | 12:43 PM
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thanks for the quick replies !

i think it is abs related.

i've removed the centre nut , but i think it needs a puller to get it off
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Old Oct 9, 2003 | 12:44 PM
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i've removed the centre nut , but i think it needs a puller to get it off
I thought it looked like you had. Have you tried giving it a tap? Put the wheel back on and wiggle it?
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Old Oct 9, 2003 | 12:45 PM
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giving a tap ? ?

me and hammers don't mix - see what happens ! ! lol

i'll put the wheel on now and "wiggle" it

cheers

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can't speell (twice ) must be coz i'm in a cop !

[Edited by IPALMER - 10/9/2003 12:46:19 PM]

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Old Oct 9, 2003 | 12:49 PM
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me and hammers don't mix - see what happens ! ! lol
PMSL I can see where you are coming from
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Old Oct 9, 2003 | 12:59 PM
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It's not the Hammer or the broken Brakes I'd worry about mate....

It's what your other half will do to you when she finds out you used her Douvet to sit on while you were Spanking your Car with a Mallet....Lol

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Old Oct 9, 2003 | 01:00 PM
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right

i've gently tapped the centre of the driveshaft back in towards the car - so that it is loose in the hub , but the hub is still fixed soild

any ideas ?
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Old Oct 9, 2003 | 01:01 PM
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listy - lol

it's alright - i nicked it off the spare bed !
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Old Oct 9, 2003 | 01:19 PM
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Old Oct 9, 2003 | 01:21 PM
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This happehed to me on my Catalunya a couple fo years ago. ABS ring broke. I ahd to pay £350 for a new ABS ring!! Couldnt pick one up 2nd hand.

Strange thing is we werent being brutal at the time. Hope you get it sorted for less than it cost me.. I got it fixed and then the discs warped 2 weeks later!!
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Old Oct 9, 2003 | 01:27 PM
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Hub puller next? What a pain in the **** I think I would pull the fuse because ABS is a pain
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Old Oct 9, 2003 | 01:28 PM
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£350 for a new ABS ring!!

'kin 'ell ! !

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Old Oct 9, 2003 | 01:35 PM
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Sorry mate but to replace the broken ring,you will have to remove the whole hub carrier.(these do not just tap off!!).
The centre hub will have to be pressed out but it may break/damage the hub bearing.Once the hub is off then you can unbolt the ABS ring.
Refitting means using the press to refit the hub back onto the bearing.

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Old Oct 9, 2003 | 01:37 PM
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But surely if you drive the wheel assembly will be well out of balance and v. uncomfortable and dangerous?
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Old Oct 9, 2003 | 02:01 PM
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quicksprint

cheers for the reply - you're in waterlooville, the same as me

i suppose i'll prob. need a new wheel bearing as well then ?
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Old Oct 9, 2003 | 02:09 PM
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Old Oct 9, 2003 | 02:15 PM
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nah, she'll quickly forget that once she sees the repair bill for the new ABS ring

Iain, I'd get some flowers ordered for her quickstyle or keep the hammer well out of reach from her

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Old Oct 9, 2003 | 02:30 PM
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OK, silly question, BUT:

Would it be possible to spot weld the broken bit back into place? I can't see why not, as it's not stressed in any way, and carries no weight?

Surely, a good welder would put it back for you, like new, at a fraction of the cost of a new one/repair involving hub removal?

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Old Oct 9, 2003 | 02:38 PM
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ozzy ,

she's working 'till 9.30 tonight - so i've got till then to get everthing sorted - i'm gonna carry on sorting the brakes out (335mm godspeed conversion) and get it back on the road with the busted abs ring

I can always tell her next week that a rogue stone broke it lol.

not me with a hammer bigger then Thor !


this welding idea could be a good one tho' - all the ring does is go round and round with a sensor aimed at the back of it.


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Old Oct 9, 2003 | 02:51 PM
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My guess is that if the ring broke that easily then it's not steel and therefore not weldable without specialist equipment (If it's alloy ) I am not sure from the picture what it's made of though
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Old Oct 9, 2003 | 02:53 PM
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Oh and if you pull the ABS fues my bet is that the broken part is that light it won't make hardly any difference to the balancing and won't make the car dangerous as previously stated.

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Old Oct 9, 2003 | 03:17 PM
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You'd be best bolting it all back up and gettin it recovered to a garage tbh

To fix it involves pulling the whole knuckle off, pressing the hub out, fitting the new ring then pressing the hub back into the knuckle...I wouldn't do that without replacing the bearing.

I don't mean to be rude but it's a very serious bit of your car....if you **** it up you could finish up on 3 wheels!!

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If it is Alloy then it will be weldable but you would probably still have to remove it
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