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Old May 8, 2003 | 04:24 PM
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Piece of P!ss in an integrale My advice is be careful. Since this video was taken my transmission has been replaced and engine re-built so I wouldn't try it again

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Old May 8, 2003 | 05:41 PM
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TypeR in the snow

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Old Aug 5, 2003 | 01:52 AM
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is it possible to perform a doughnut in a standerd impreza without the center diff control?

after watching sum friends playing on a private field the best i saw was a kinda shrapish turn on the grass, im thinking more of the kind say a rally driver would preform, im sure ive heard the phrase "axis turn" sumwhere along the line, with the front wheel staying on the spot etc etc

watched them on grass and tarmac, better results were yeilded on the grass, the tarmac was just a big understeering mess.
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Old Aug 5, 2003 | 02:31 AM
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Old Aug 5, 2003 | 02:46 AM
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Effectively no. The fixed-split viscous centre diff makes it virtually impossible to doughnut, or indeed perform a proper handbrake turn. Both techniques require either an open centre diff, or even better the ability to disconnect one or other of the axles.

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Old Aug 5, 2003 | 08:26 AM
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Hmmm. I knew there was a reason I bought a Type-R

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Old Aug 5, 2003 | 08:31 AM
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Depends on the surface.

You'll get a pretty good impression of a doughnut on very low friction surfaces - ice, snow and wet grass for example - but not on tarmac without the diff control.

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Old Aug 5, 2003 | 08:59 AM
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Are dougnuts possible with an STi8 then? as I saw some bloke doing 'em on Pulling Power the other night
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Old Aug 5, 2003 | 09:46 AM
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I can do donughts with my UK MY00!! MPEG coming soon.....
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Old Aug 5, 2003 | 09:52 AM
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I can doughnut my standard MY00. I can get it to pivot round one wheel in forward and reverse, haven't seen it myself but have witnesses, it is a bizare feeling when it happens just spinning on the spot rather than corkscrewing.
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Old Aug 5, 2003 | 10:04 AM
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I can do donughts with my UK MY00!! MPEG coming soon.....
and dont i know it

Not seen it, just seen the tyre markls in my field, oh and received a telling off from Emma for it

So show me the mpeg, then i can experience the dohnut that took place in my field

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Old Aug 5, 2003 | 10:11 AM
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I have a movie, if someone can host it ?
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Old Aug 5, 2003 | 10:11 AM
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No problem in my MY02 STi except on dry tarmac!

I'm just wondering what the diff has to do with hand brake turns? On any rear/4 wheel drive car you just have to dip the clutch to do it, then bring the power back on at the right moment to go the direction you want!
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Old Aug 5, 2003 | 02:33 PM
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ive have never done one ever, i might go and find a field late tonight and give it a try, would i be right in thinking that full lock is applied then just dump the clutch in 1st?

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Old Aug 5, 2003 | 02:37 PM
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I can host it if you send it to me!!

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Old Aug 5, 2003 | 03:11 PM
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I'm just wondering what the diff has to do with hand brake turns?
Because the front wheels are still rotating when initiating a handbrake turn, and there's a viscous coupling between them and the rear. Thus the handbrake will have difficulty in cleanly locking the rear axle due to the fact that torque is still transmitted through the prop, clutch in or not.

If/when it manages to do so, the viscous coupling will in turn slow the front axle dramatically, resulting in a tendency for the car to slide straight on rather than locking its rear axle and pivoting around the free spinning front.

This is why the DCCD equipped cars have a handbrake release that opens the centre diff, and why Group A/World Rally Cars have even more complicated systems.

Incidentally, if you can do this sort of thing with ease on a viscous car, it probably means your centre diff's shot, or is soon going to be!

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Old Aug 5, 2003 | 03:20 PM
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Micky

I remember trying this in my Escort Cossie and its not as easy as you'd think its easy enough to spin the car around the tricky bit from memory was to keep it going round!
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Old Aug 5, 2003 | 03:47 PM
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Here's Mr Gee's video:

Right click, Save - as (1mb)

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Old Aug 5, 2003 | 04:09 PM
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Yes, you can do this sort of thing with the regular bevel geared 50:50 differential.
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Old Aug 5, 2003 | 04:12 PM
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So whats the bloody outcome then

can I doughnut my STi8 and wet surface or would I end up in a hedge
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Old Aug 5, 2003 | 04:13 PM
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Remind me to make a note of all your usernames so when I see your motors up for sale in 6 months I can steer clear of them!!!!!
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Old Aug 5, 2003 | 04:14 PM
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Well, I have been there, and done that.
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Old Aug 5, 2003 | 04:27 PM
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My RA does it and it hasnt got diff control.

That car is bound to be able to do it on the vid as its a 22b with diff control
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Old Aug 5, 2003 | 04:57 PM
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Wait till it snows much easier all round...
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Old Aug 5, 2003 | 05:13 PM
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Old Aug 5, 2003 | 05:13 PM
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so dave
how did u do it?
full lock and dump the clutch?
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Old Aug 5, 2003 | 05:20 PM
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Whether it's a "true" doughnut or not is I guess not that relevant to most of us.

I KNOW I was doing doughnuts in the Snow a couple of years ago.....well it was spinning around on the spot give or take a few feet....

Throughly good fun and all at about 5 miles an hour..... full lock and give it some welly!

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Old Aug 5, 2003 | 05:26 PM
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wouldnt the back spin round and then the front pull you out?
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Old Aug 5, 2003 | 05:31 PM
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ive done doughnuts in my 02 wrx
and jam tarts and ice buns
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Old Aug 5, 2003 | 05:39 PM
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Started drivin round in circles whilst still rollin dipped the clutch gave it some revs then dropped the clutch and it started doughnuttin. Had me mate in the car at the time and it was on sainsburys car park in notts.
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