Paulo P

iTrader: (42)

Piece of P!ss in an integrale My advice is be careful. Since this video was taken my transmission has been replaced and engine re-built so I wouldn't try it again

[Edited by paulpalmer - 8/5/2003 4:26:57 PM]

DanTheMan

TypeR in the snow

[Edited by DanTheMan - 8/5/2003 5:42:28 PM]

StickyMicky

is it possible to perform a doughnut in a standerd impreza without the center diff control?

after watching sum friends playing on a private field the best i saw was a kinda shrapish turn on the grass, im thinking more of the kind say a rally driver would preform, im sure ive heard the phrase "axis turn" sumwhere along the line, with the front wheel staying on the spot etc etc

watched them on grass and tarmac, better results were yeilded on the grass, the tarmac was just a big understeering mess.
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Dyney

Speak to Gossy
He managed a few after TOTB.

greasemonkey

Effectively no. The fixed-split viscous centre diff makes it virtually impossible to doughnut, or indeed perform a proper handbrake turn. Both techniques require either an open centre diff, or even better the ability to disconnect one or other of the axles.

[Edited by greasemonkey - 05/08/2003 04:23:21]

what would scooby do

Hmmm. I knew there was a reason I bought a Type-R

Diablo

Depends on the surface.

You'll get a pretty good impression of a doughnut on very low friction surfaces - ice, snow and wet grass for example - but not on tarmac without the diff control.

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Brewstaa

Are dougnuts possible with an STi8 then? as I saw some bloke doing 'em on Pulling Power the other night

Nezz10

I can do donughts with my UK MY00!! MPEG coming soon.....

Wurzel

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I can doughnut my standard MY00. I can get it to pivot round one wheel in forward and reverse, haven't seen it myself but have witnesses, it is a bizare feeling when it happens just spinning on the spot rather than corkscrewing.

P20SPD

iTrader: (1)

and dont i know it

Not seen it, just seen the tyre markls in my field, oh and received a telling off from Emma for it

So show me the mpeg, then i can experience the dohnut that took place in my field

Steven

Mr Gee

I have a movie, if someone can host it ?

STiGuy

No problem in my MY02 STi except on dry tarmac!

I'm just wondering what the diff has to do with hand brake turns? On any rear/4 wheel drive car you just have to dip the clutch to do it, then bring the power back on at the right moment to go the direction you want!

StickyMicky

ive have never done one ever, i might go and find a field late tonight and give it a try, would i be right in thinking that full lock is applied then just dump the clutch in 1st?

SiDHEaD

I can host it if you send it to me!!

Andy

greasemonkey

Because the front wheels are still rotating when initiating a handbrake turn, and there's a viscous coupling between them and the rear. Thus the handbrake will have difficulty in cleanly locking the rear axle due to the fact that torque is still transmitted through the prop, clutch in or not.

If/when it manages to do so, the viscous coupling will in turn slow the front axle dramatically, resulting in a tendency for the car to slide straight on rather than locking its rear axle and pivoting around the free spinning front.

This is why the DCCD equipped cars have a handbrake release that opens the centre diff, and why Group A/World Rally Cars have even more complicated systems.

Incidentally, if you can do this sort of thing with ease on a viscous car, it probably means your centre diff's shot, or is soon going to be!

[Edited by greasemonkey - 8/5/2003 3:14:12 PM]

Brewstaa

Micky

I remember trying this in my Escort Cossie and its not as easy as you'd think its easy enough to spin the car around the tricky bit from memory was to keep it going round!

SiDHEaD

Here's Mr Gee's video:

Right click, Save - as (1mb)

Andy

MorayMackenzie

Yes, you can do this sort of thing with the regular bevel geared 50:50 differential.

Brewstaa

So whats the bloody outcome then

can I doughnut my STi8 and wet surface or would I end up in a hedge

Scooby96

Remind me to make a note of all your usernames so when I see your motors up for sale in 6 months I can steer clear of them!!!!!

MorayMackenzie

Well, I have been there, and done that.

DaveBlueRA

My RA does it and it hasnt got diff control.

That car is bound to be able to do it on the vid as its a 22b with diff control

Andy Porter

Wait till it snows much easier all round...

Richard Askew

Tesco's Mr P??

StickyMicky

so dave
how did u do it?
full lock and dump the clutch?

Cheeky Jim

Whether it's a "true" doughnut or not is I guess not that relevant to most of us.

I KNOW I was doing doughnuts in the Snow a couple of years ago.....well it was spinning around on the spot give or take a few feet....

Throughly good fun and all at about 5 miles an hour..... full lock and give it some welly!

Jim

StickyMicky

wouldnt the back spin round and then the front pull you out?

wakeboardar

ive done doughnuts in my 02 wrx
and jam tarts and ice buns

DaveBlueRA

Started drivin round in circles whilst still rollin dipped the clutch gave it some revs then dropped the clutch and it started doughnuttin. Had me mate in the car at the time and it was on sainsburys car park in notts.