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Old Apr 10, 2002 | 01:37 PM
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I read it as all Imprezas are good, some are uglier than others. Mine's a ten pinter.

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Old Oct 4, 2002 | 12:47 PM
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From The Sun today...

"I never thought I'd say this but: "Don't buy a Subaru Impreza." Wait a few months for the face-lifted version. Hopefully, it will still be as good as ever but it won't look so much like a pigs's backside."

Nearly spat my tea out!!! That man's a god.
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Old Oct 4, 2002 | 12:53 PM
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Good old Clarkson Eh? He's never afraid to speak the truth
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Old Oct 4, 2002 | 12:54 PM
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Subtle as a brick, as usual.
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Old Oct 4, 2002 | 01:00 PM
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I'm with him as well "Don't buy Imprezas" other than the old shape. The less sold now the less second had ones available when I want to get rid of mine.

Plus - if the posts here are right - the reputation of the old shape will be so bad that they'll only be bought by or nicked by criminals.
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Old Oct 4, 2002 | 01:19 PM
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clarkson might be a god but you can't take somebody to serious when they park a plane in there front garden??any subaru's good some are better than others thats all!!
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Old Oct 4, 2002 | 01:23 PM
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Clarkson is the man!
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Old Oct 4, 2002 | 01:28 PM
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yeah but what a plane

very fond memories of the bac lightning as a kid

as far as i know its the only plane thats ever been banned from flying over europe due to it being too noisy

when those things took off the ground really did tremble
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Old Oct 4, 2002 | 01:39 PM
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Yep read that and had a good laff.

Can't wait 'till he's back on the new BBC2 Top Gear prog.

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Old Oct 4, 2002 | 01:40 PM
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Sorry, but I think Clarkson is a self opinionated, arrogant, right-wing, loud mouthed w@nker!
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Old Oct 4, 2002 | 01:42 PM
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re lightning

in case anyone was wondering it came in service in 1960 and lasted till 88

it did just over mach2 and could go straight up at 50000 ft per minute a trick which tended to be demonstrated every time the pilots took off as soon as the undercarridge was up

believe me it was one of those things which if you ever saw / heard / felt it you never forgot

if anyones ever been to an airshow and heard/ felt noise from a harier whilst it hovers well the lightning was louder even when it was a mile down the runway

oh happy days
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Old Oct 4, 2002 | 01:44 PM
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Great entertainment value....

He is a lad

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Old Oct 4, 2002 | 01:46 PM
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Do I detect that alcazar doesn't like Clarkson? Obviously a VBH fan then!

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Old Oct 4, 2002 | 01:47 PM
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<as far as i know its the only plane thats ever been banned from flying over europe due to it being too noisy >
The lightning is the don aircraft.
Max thrust 36,000lbs
Mach limit of 2.4
Climb rate of 50,000 fpm
From brake release to 36,000 feet 2.5 minutes
over 88,000 feet reached in unauthorised "energy climbs"
and ugly as **** to boot.
as **** cold war interceptor.
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Old Oct 4, 2002 | 01:52 PM
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The Lightning - F.1A XM172 - was only in Clarksons garden for a short while, last seen at Booker Airfield nr High Wycombe. The power of the internet and an idle git.
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Old Oct 4, 2002 | 01:55 PM
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According to the chaps at one BAe office I was at, it still holds records for climbing to altitudes. Not so much a plane, more two huge engines with a seat.
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Old Oct 4, 2002 | 01:57 PM
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If you want to go see the only Lightnings in the UK allowed to move under their own power - http://www.jetman.dircon.co.uk/brunty/index.html

If you actually want a flight in one (wow!) see here - http://www.thundercity.com/welcome.htm

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Old Oct 4, 2002 | 01:58 PM
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Yeah, the bugeye is a sh1tter!
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Old Oct 4, 2002 | 02:04 PM
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Lightning rocks. Still probably my favourite plane of all time. Saw them a number of times at air shows back in the 60's
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Old Oct 4, 2002 | 02:22 PM
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I am with Alcazar on this one. The bloke is an absolute w4nker!!
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Old Oct 4, 2002 | 02:29 PM
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The Lightening was a great concept and fantastic plane.

You can imagine the engineers faces when they got the brief:

"We want a plane that can catch Nuclear Missles."

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Old Oct 4, 2002 | 02:31 PM
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<"We want a plane that can catch Nuclear Missles.">
LOL!!!!!
You forgot the P.S.
"P.S. without much effort either"

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Old Oct 4, 2002 | 02:35 PM
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now that's just ruined the prices of these used cars.
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Old Oct 4, 2002 | 02:41 PM
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Astraboy... sorry forgot that bit! lol

I used to live near a BAe site and they had pictures of the plane all over the place! That and the Harrier.

If I remember correctly what one of them said to me...

"They may not be the prettiest planes in the world, but they do their job in style." (I think I toned that down to much...)

I've heard the Harrier on hover at very close range, the hearing recovered after a while. Now I would loved to have heard a Lightening take off and do the 39,000 feet climb!
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Old Oct 4, 2002 | 02:41 PM
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Lightnings are awesome.

i have some pictures of me at an RAF base in Germany, playing football, using the engine apatures in the fuselage as targets. They were used as decoys near the runway way back then.

Other favourite of the cold war era has to be the Vulcan, i saw the last public diplay by a vulcan at an airshow and i think they decided to sod the regs and give it a good send off, full thrust into a near verticle climb from 50 feet, absolutely awesome!
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Old Oct 4, 2002 | 02:45 PM
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My dad used to build part of the nose of lightnings

Awesome planes.
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Old Oct 4, 2002 | 02:46 PM
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This page also has a sound file... the Lightening taxing!

http://www.thunder-and-lightnings.co.uk/lightning/

Image from the same site.
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Old Oct 4, 2002 | 02:52 PM
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Going through the sound barrier!

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Old Oct 4, 2002 | 03:02 PM
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I'll never forget seeing a Vulcan bomber over Aylesbury when I was a lad. One was based at RAF Halton for a while.
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Old Oct 4, 2002 | 03:03 PM
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I love seeing shots of the sound barrier being pierced! When I did it I was expecting some sort of explosion... noting not even a shake!
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