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Old Aug 27, 2002 | 07:59 AM
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A 94WRX is rated at 240PS a 95/96 WRX is rated at 260PS, and a 94-96UK is rated at only 208BHP.
Other than the fuel Octane in Japan being 100RON, what makes the WRX so much faster than the UK version.

The Boost of a 94WRX and 94UK are very similar levels, so is it just down the the ECU Map or are there other factors to take into account.
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Old Aug 27, 2002 | 08:37 AM
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Are they faster???
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Old Aug 27, 2002 | 09:57 AM
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Less weight
Lower gearing
More aggresive cams
Better flowed heads?
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I reality a standard uk car is more like 220-230hp rather than the 208hp spec.

wrx 240ps = 235.2hp

jap cars have no centre cat, 100ron fuel allows more ignition advance.

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Old Aug 27, 2002 | 10:16 AM
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Less weight
Lower gearing
More aggresive cams
Better flowed heads?
Are you sure about this?

Paul, I'm not too convinced on your figures there. When my car (UK MY94) was dyno'd with just a ScoobySport centre and backbox it made 215bhp and 201lb/ft on PowerStations rollers so I'd say a standard UK would be closer to 208 as stated.

jap cars have no centre cat, 100ron fuel allows more ignition advance.
so on our fuel are they really faster? I wouldn't have thought so.
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Old Aug 27, 2002 | 10:18 AM
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From: Leeds - It was 562.4bhp@28psi on Optimax, How much closer to 600 with race fuel and a bigger turbo?
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mine made 216 at well lane with hks filter and hks hiper.. and 60,000 mile.

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Old Aug 27, 2002 | 10:20 AM
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Yes they are faster.
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Old Aug 27, 2002 | 10:32 AM
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hmm, well I looked at the large selection of results on the dyno site, I didn't see a standard car with less than 219hp. Results from unmodified early cars are few, but here's a selection from Powerstation, which gives lower results than PE, which give later standard cars 230hp.

Joss Wheddon - 219hp with ramair filter
ScoobyDoo555 -221hp no mods

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Old Aug 27, 2002 | 10:33 AM
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Dave,

I've been on track with many a WRX when the only change to my car was the exhaust, as mentioned above, and I can assure you that they certainly weren't any faster than mine.
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Old Aug 27, 2002 | 03:26 PM
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According to the specs from the Haynes Subaru manual (not the workshop manual) The early wrx's have a slightly higher compression ratio than the uk ones so this might make a difference and mine has no centre cat either, just a cat shaped straight through box???
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Old Aug 27, 2002 | 03:57 PM
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Cat shaped thing is a resonator.

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Old Aug 27, 2002 | 05:13 PM
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MY 94 UK, HKS Induction Kit, MAgnex rear & centre, Jap innovations DP, Dawes device set @ 13 Psi. Came out @ 272 Bhp @ powerstation RR Day.
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Old Aug 27, 2002 | 05:28 PM
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So nobody really knows then......

Different Injectors ???
Different CAMs ???

Or exactly the same ???
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Old Aug 27, 2002 | 06:46 PM
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uk
comp ratio 8.0:1
weight 1235 kgs(and folding rear seats)
jap
8.5:1
1200 kgs
different gear ratios
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Old Aug 27, 2002 | 08:11 PM
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Dean,
that's very impressive for only 13psi on PS' rollers, that should see you with 300on PE's

Scott,
the differences are very very marginal on the road and only come into any real benefit when run on 100RON fuel as intended. Technically I think your only looking at the compression ratio and a more aggressive timing map.

If we're talking about standard cars the UK will be by far the quickest, the WRX will be limited to 112mph

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Old Aug 27, 2002 | 10:18 PM
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Thanks Mo,

I was very shocked myself, Never expected so much. Both front & rear discs were Fu*ked @ the time so perhaps it just wouldn't slow down (LOL)

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Old Aug 28, 2002 | 12:03 AM
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Shorter gearing on WRX allows the engine to be on boost the whole time, and early TD05 turbos will sing all the way to the 7k red line

Driven properly a WRX will be quicker purely by virtue of it's gearing, while turbo/engine mapping allows power to increase virtually all the way to the red line.

De-limited WRXs will rev-out at approx 145 - 150 mph
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Old Aug 28, 2002 | 08:41 AM
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Dave, the UK cars also have the TD05. OK so I know the speedo will be out but I've had mine way off the clock (160) at 6500rpm with only a ScoobySport exhaust and running .95bar
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Old Aug 28, 2002 | 09:12 AM
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FUEL & BOOST MAPS

UK94 FUEL


WRX94 FUEL


UK94 BOOST


WRX94 BOOST



I can show more if needed.... from owning a WRX93 for 6 months and now a UK94 (with Mods). I can say that the WRX certainly revved better above 5,500rpm. So I would think they have different cams. Although the gearing may of had something to do with it.
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Old Aug 28, 2002 | 09:18 AM
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the uk boost map cuts the boost over 5800rpm, the wrx doesn't

cams might be different, but I think only the Sti 1 & 2 had different cams. If you look at Andy F's dyno sheet, you can see the power begins to drop from 6300 despite boost being held (operator cut back throttle too making it look worse than it is).

Paul
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