Maz

iTrader: (34)

Are you saying nobody in the Bush administration made any money from military related industries?

Martin2005

Nope that's not what I'm saying.

I'm saying that they didn't kill 3000 of their own people, start wars, and trigger a series of events they could not possibly hope to forsee or control, for money

sweden

iTrader: (2)

Why is there no footage from inside the pentagon, what happened to the plane, how is it possible that they hit the exact spot that wasnt reinforced, is the air space around the pentagon not supposed to be one of the most secure in the usa if so how is it possible for a passenger plane to get into it yet alone hit the pentagon yet no airforce or ground system was deployed, something doesnt add up some where

hodgy0_2

but the two are not mutally exclusive - i do not believe in any of the conspiracy nonesense

but it is simply undeniable that some weatlhy and powerful people became more powerful and wealthier as a result of the action after 9/11

maybe that is the hidden conspiracy - the richer tend to get richer

sweden

iTrader: (2)

Are you talking about senior or junior though, bin laden was brought and paid for by the states when he was starting out they trained and supplied him with weapons let alone the bush involvement in the oil industry

hodgy0_2

the plane (or what was left of it was found in the pentegon) - the area it hit was, i believe undergoing referbishment, so maybe did not have the cctv active


"how is it possible for a passenger plane to get into it yet alone hit the pentagon yet no airforce or ground system was deployed, something doesnt add up some where"

maybe because they had NEVER had anything of this nature happen to them EVER - they got a wheeny bit complacent

try it now and see what happens

Jamie

What a load of crap.

Martin2005

Indeed

Moley

iTrader: (9)

IMO they knew the attack would happen and didn't stop it.... but i don't believe the Americans did it themselves.

sweden

iTrader: (2)

The threat was already there though they knew about flight training to undesirables etc etc war games attack threats had been played out on computers for years and plans made, so are you trying to say that the pentagon/white house had no aerial protection before 9/11 because there was no threat and the supposed secure air space was just a whim

Martin2005

But why?

sweden

iTrader: (2)

Politics,control,manipulation and of course money

madscoob

iTrader: (3)

wt7 fell faster than freefall speed after being untoutched by planes, has anyone watched the experiments on electromagnetic radio waves and what they do to steel, it explaines why all the steel girders buckeled into shapes than cannot be done by force alone

Moley

iTrader: (9)

Made it easier to go to war, plus the $$$ certain people made.

Martin2005

hmmm - so something that didn't happen is 'explained' by something that is made up

bustaMOVEs

iTrader: (31)

It was provoked to make it happen like most things that have happened.

madscoob

iTrader: (3)

here you are martin watch this
10 mins onwards explains wt7 explains alot don't dissmiss as bs peter jones was later bought out as we all know, watch the super thermite experiments as well at 13.10 that's how the metal beams collapsed, 2500degrees, jet fuel as most people know only reach's 1500

Martin2005

Pressumably you've looked at the wealth of evidence to opposite, not just found something you want to believe?

Have a proper look at the evidence then come back, there's plenty out there that debunks this silly nonsense

Martin2005

I assume you meant Alex Jones, the right wing, gun toting, government hating, conspiracy nutter?

madscoob

iTrader: (3)

no stephen jones the engineer/scientist / physics professor the one in the video, who was later bought out and strangly change his mind i got his name wrong

Martin2005

Again - check your source, and check what ACTUAL engineers (yep you guessed it, your engineer source is not actually an engineer) say about his theories

Suresh

My dear departed dad had his theories about 9/11. I found the passenger manifests if the crashed planes and checked at random the names of the people and even the kids that were on a national geographic field trip. Funeral reports, school mourning sites and natgeo all confirm real people died. A conspiracy theory of this magnitude would need thousands of conspirators and is quite frankly laughable.

The Building 7 collapse isn't so well explained but that is about it.

Be nice guys!

hodgy0_2

is it's collapse due to the "collateral" damage from two neighbouring 1300ft tall buildings hit by two airliners rammed full of fuel,

no much easier to explain it by involving a global conspiracy, that must have involved 1000’s upon 1000’s of people

a conspiracy prosecuted entirely by word of mouth – because not one iota of actual written evidence has ever surfaced to confirm there was one

you can choose the red pill or the blue pill

madscoob

iTrader: (3)

this one explains it all, scientifically and the experiments are at about
whatch this from 1hour 7 mins onwards
this video shows the experiments by 1hour 33 mins done by john hutchinson 1hour 34mins shows iron twisting under cold fusion, 1hour 38mins on hurricanes is facinating, speed is not the reason straw an wood goes through tree's, also can you explain how tritium was found in large amount's in wtc dust,

markjmd

iTrader: (11)

Just as there are now, more than 40 years after they happened, idiots who think the 400,000 people involved in preparation for the moon landings were either dupes or in on a conspiracy to fake them, there will probably still be people 30 years from now who believe the kind of ridiculous nonsense dragged back up in this thread.

All I can say to that is it must really suck going through life being that much of a ****tard

hodgy0_2

She believes that the WTC were destroyed by energy beams from space

Is that what you believe too - the planes were holograms, projected images, cgi manipulation of news reel footage, the towers destroyed by space beams

The 1000's of real people who watched the planes hit and collapse, all lying, agents of the illuminati

Is that what you believe madscoob

It might explain your nomenclature

Dingdongler

Spell it out for me then, what do you think happened on 9/11?

madscoob

iTrader: (3)

i never said i believed it i just pointed out how steel twist's under cold fusion, and there are video's proving nbc news edited what you all saw on tv, it's all a bit suspect to me, planes do not just vaporise, there was hardly any wreckage found in the field,7tonnes of titanium engines don't just vaporise. a 747 jet hitting a field just doesn't dissapear. phone calls have been proven back then to be impossible from a jet, as for the rays from space look up HARP on the internet and think again, the yanks have the technology, they just don't want us to believe it,

madscoob

iTrader: (3)

1'.250.000 tonnes of building collapsing faster than freefall speed should cause a fair amount of earth tremor's you would think, there are pictures of seismic tremor graph's recorded the moment the buildings collapsed, they show nothing unordinary, it has been said by many people wtc7 was undamage by the others collapsing, including structural engineers

thenewgalaxy

Neither do I, hence the term I used in my earlier post of "supervised neglect". Were this the case, I'm not sure they'd have believed over 3000 people would lose their lives as a result.

There are two extreme sets of views being seen on this thread, that it was a huge sinister conspiracy or that the facts are exactly as presented and people are conspiracy theorist butters for having even the slightest suspicion that something doesn't add up.

I don't believe for one minute that the Americans deliberately killed their own people and are best mates with Israel and flew anti gravity space ships into the side of the twin towers.

But I think anyone who believes that there is not at least a few hidden nasties in there is plain naive.

Things don't totally add up. Whether that is because of the sheer volume of information needed to explain it or because there is an element of deceit we don't honestly know. The actual truth will lay somewhere between the two extreme versions and I think one day when it comes out there will be a lot of stuff there that'll make for unpleasant reading.