9/11 Alleged conspiracy.
06 January 2014, 10:38 AM
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The USA already has technology available to them thats way into the future, thats why they have so many top secret testing facilities.
One of the things that ive always doubted with 9/11 given the technology and fire power thats available to the USA is how could these so called hijacked planes be allowed to get so close too civilian and heavily populated areas ? If the planes had been taken over by terrorists they would have been shot down long before they got anywhere near New York, their would have been innocent people aboard which would have been a tragedy in itself but thats nothing compared to the potential death toll if they had let the planes fly on without doing anything.
They have missiles that can be launched in seconds that can hit a 10p coin from thousands of miles away, so hitting 2 commercial jets from a short distance away wouldn't have been a problem. They would have known fairly quickly if a plane had been taken over by terrorists, so why were they allowed to fly straight into New York and into the twin towers ?
One of the things that ive always doubted with 9/11 given the technology and fire power thats available to the USA is how could these so called hijacked planes be allowed to get so close too civilian and heavily populated areas ? If the planes had been taken over by terrorists they would have been shot down long before they got anywhere near New York, their would have been innocent people aboard which would have been a tragedy in itself but thats nothing compared to the potential death toll if they had let the planes fly on without doing anything.
They have missiles that can be launched in seconds that can hit a 10p coin from thousands of miles away, so hitting 2 commercial jets from a short distance away wouldn't have been a problem. They would have known fairly quickly if a plane had been taken over by terrorists, so why were they allowed to fly straight into New York and into the twin towers ?
06 January 2014, 10:43 AM
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You're writing this with hind-sight of course. Remember that before 9/11, nothing of this magnitude had been seen before. The standard response to a highjacking would be to allow the plans to land then deal with the terrorists then (deal as in "take out", not give them what they want, at least in the west). No one considrerd that a highjacking would lead to mass murder in the way it was committed, so why would they deliberately shoot down a plane full of innocent people? It's different now of course...
06 January 2014, 10:50 AM
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Er no. I said believe "something" they've read (not everything). Yes the thread is here because something has been read or watched something and someone believed it without engaging brain. There are enough statements presented as fact on this thread by different people to prove that!
06 January 2014, 12:35 PM
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I knew it was only a matter of time before Martin, leader of the 'Western governments are wonderful' movement turned up to start calling people who don't agree with him stupid... again!!!
I think it is right we question things we are told by the goverments and the media seeing as they are mainly made up of liars. No need to go overbaord into conspiracy theories all the time, but equally no need to accept everything they spoonfeed you as gospel either!
I think it is right we question things we are told by the goverments and the media seeing as they are mainly made up of liars. No need to go overbaord into conspiracy theories all the time, but equally no need to accept everything they spoonfeed you as gospel either!
the fact that ours and the US government intercept all our online communications (dispite initial denials) and have back doors into the infrastructures of all the major internet companies
but none of that means that the US government in conjunction with the "Jews" flew planes (or where they planes???) into the twin towers
some people on here have been watching to much of The Matrix
06 January 2014, 12:39 PM
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we do have a genuine conspiracy though, don't we - and the government has been caught lying - plain and simple
the fact that ours and the US government intercept all our online communications (dispite initial denials) and have back doors into the infrastructures of all the major internet companies
but none of that means that the US government in conjunction with the "Jews" flew planes (or where they planes???) into the twin towers
some people on here have been watching to much of The Matrix
the fact that ours and the US government intercept all our online communications (dispite initial denials) and have back doors into the infrastructures of all the major internet companies
but none of that means that the US government in conjunction with the "Jews" flew planes (or where they planes???) into the twin towers
some people on here have been watching to much of The Matrix
That said when the security restrictions were lifted on the official government documents from Kennedy's time as president there were several released that showed the US had at least considered falsifying terrorist acts in order to blame them on Cuba to give them a reason to invade Cuba.
Hmmmmm
06 January 2014, 01:11 PM
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9/11 was just a reason to get into the war or terrorism, lot's of money is made out of it, do the history research, ww1 yanks where told by the germans not to sail the lucatainia to ireland as it may be sunk by u boats, what did they do, loaded her up with 1900 people guns and munittion's and set sail,it got sunk, reason to get into ww1 with yank public got easy. ww2 pearl harbour, yanks where told by british intelel weeks before that most of the jap navy where on the way, what did they do ignore advise, reason to get into ww2v with public approval got easy,all of the above is well documented including conversation's that took place between american leeders and military advisors,also explain how tower 7 fell quicker than freefall speed after not being damaged by the planes at all, billions of gold where moved from the towers vaults days before, lot's of very fishy things went on imho, we the sheep will never know the truth
06 January 2014, 01:12 PM
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That's pretty much what I meant!
That said when the security restrictions were lifted on the official government documents from Kennedy's time as president there were several released that showed the US had at least considered falsifying terrorist acts in order to blame them on Cuba to give them a reason to invade Cuba.
Hmmmmm
That said when the security restrictions were lifted on the official government documents from Kennedy's time as president there were several released that showed the US had at least considered falsifying terrorist acts in order to blame them on Cuba to give them a reason to invade Cuba.
Hmmmmm
We do not need to invent ones
And these conspiracy theories act like a hydra – the more you shoot then down with basic facts, science and logic the more spring up, they just move the argument
They pick on ANY unexplained act or event – imagine if every single act/event during the days of 9/11 were immediate explainable (because it had all been planned) imagine no need for an investigation because everything fitted together perfectly – now THAT would be unbelievable
That THE biggest single event in the last 100 years - is not totally explainable in every minute detail to all the world internet idiots - in a way proves its veracity
But in reality you can never actually win
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06 January 2014, 02:34 PM
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If you watch the live footage of the planes going into the twin towers they fly into a solid steel and concrete structure like a knife going through butter, you can see the shape of the plane where it entered the building.
Like a lot of experts have said its impossible for that to happen, the tips of the wings and the wings themselves would disintegrate on impact as well as the nose, they wouldn't slice through solid steel and concrete like appears to happen. The same for the nose of the plane, on one piece of live footage it shows what appears to be the nose of the plane entering the building and coming out of the building on the other side, again like the experts have said that can't physically happen.
The estimated speed on the plane hitting the twin towers was 500mph+, aviation experts have stated that this type of commercial plane can't travel at 500mph+ at low altitude.
Like a lot of experts have said its impossible for that to happen, the tips of the wings and the wings themselves would disintegrate on impact as well as the nose, they wouldn't slice through solid steel and concrete like appears to happen. The same for the nose of the plane, on one piece of live footage it shows what appears to be the nose of the plane entering the building and coming out of the building on the other side, again like the experts have said that can't physically happen.
The estimated speed on the plane hitting the twin towers was 500mph+, aviation experts have stated that this type of commercial plane can't travel at 500mph+ at low altitude.
06 January 2014, 03:01 PM
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If you watch the live footage of the planes going into the twin towers they fly into a solid steel and concrete structure like a knife going through butter, you can see the shape of the plane where it entered the building.
Like a lot of experts have said its impossible for that to happen, the tips of the wings and the wings themselves would disintegrate on impact as well as the nose, they wouldn't slice through solid steel and concrete like appears to happen. The same for the nose of the plane, on one piece of live footage it shows what appears to be the nose of the plane entering the building and coming out of the building on the other side, again like the experts have said that can't physically happen.
The estimated speed on the plane hitting the twin towers was 500mph+, aviation experts have stated that this type of commercial plane can't travel at 500mph+ at low altitude.
Like a lot of experts have said its impossible for that to happen, the tips of the wings and the wings themselves would disintegrate on impact as well as the nose, they wouldn't slice through solid steel and concrete like appears to happen. The same for the nose of the plane, on one piece of live footage it shows what appears to be the nose of the plane entering the building and coming out of the building on the other side, again like the experts have said that can't physically happen.
The estimated speed on the plane hitting the twin towers was 500mph+, aviation experts have stated that this type of commercial plane can't travel at 500mph+ at low altitude.
06 January 2014, 03:04 PM
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I don't particularly care how it happened and don't waste time deeply thinking about it....
However, two things did strike me as odd.
1) Plane hitting Pentagon. You would think this place would be swamped in CCTV yet the only thing they have is a time-lapse camera that took individual snaps. And when it showed the plan it was flying perfectly horizontal about 4 feet off the ground. Pilots even stated the best of the best would have trouble to fly like that.
2) Rumsfeld saying Flight 93 was shot down. Plenty of vids of that on youtube etc
However, two things did strike me as odd.
1) Plane hitting Pentagon. You would think this place would be swamped in CCTV yet the only thing they have is a time-lapse camera that took individual snaps. And when it showed the plan it was flying perfectly horizontal about 4 feet off the ground. Pilots even stated the best of the best would have trouble to fly like that.
2) Rumsfeld saying Flight 93 was shot down. Plenty of vids of that on youtube etc
06 January 2014, 03:13 PM
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presumably he (and his staff) had quite alot on his plate that day so not time to double fact check all the info streaming into the pentagon
or maybe a better explanation of it is, cast iron evidence of a global conspiracy by the US government to massacre 3000 of their own citizens
06 January 2014, 04:32 PM
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9/11 was just a reason to get into the war or terrorism, lot's of money is made out of it, do the history research, ww1 yanks where told by the germans not to sail the lucatainia to ireland as it may be sunk by u boats, what did they do, loaded her up with 1900 people guns and munittion's and set sail,it got sunk, reason to get into ww1 with yank public got easy. ww2 pearl harbour, yanks where told by british intelel weeks before that most of the jap navy where on the way, what did they do ignore advise, reason to get into ww2v with public approval got easy,all of the above is well documented including conversation's that took place between american leeders and military advisors,also explain how tower 7 fell quicker than freefall speed after not being damaged by the planes at all, billions of gold where moved from the towers vaults days before, lot's of very fishy things went on imho, we the sheep will never know the truth
Firstly the Lusitania was a BRITISH ship.
It was sunk in 1915, the US joined the war in 1917.
Pearl Harbour
The Japanese declared war on the US...end of
Germany then declared war on the US
Terrorism
'Lots of money to be made by the war on Terror'
Really, at last count the cost was well over $1 TRILLION DOLLARS
06 January 2014, 04:40 PM
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06 January 2014, 04:49 PM
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I must say, as a slight aside, the war on terror has been an unqualified sucess especially with the great news from Iraq over the weekend and of course that perfect model country that Afghanisatan now is! Bush and Blair can be so proud of themselves!
06 January 2014, 04:55 PM
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