XDevil666

So 1 ECU dead, 2 others won't work:he can't connect to then 1 other that he can't connect to?

Maybe a problem his side? I know simon has good rep on here so prob not, but still 4 ecu's with problems? Not convinced

TurboFreak

Well after 7 months got it back on the road where it belongs

3rd attempt for remap on the rolling road in Farnborough and car is remapped and goes well.. made 304bhp with the standard turbo and still with cat in place... so maybe a decat, fmic and bigger turbo soon?

Car was jinxed and even tested Simon, but he didn't give up and I would recommend him to anyone, you get what you pay for and he certainly knows his stuff.

Now I have to deal with Subaru UK regarding compensation for selling me the dodgy faulty MAF in the first place

Jolly Green Monster

iTrader: (4)

Why is everything always the mappers fault?

The 99/00 ecus are fragile and now 15years old, when you program the ecu it wipes everything and reloads it all. Therefore there is not even a kernal, so if one bit doesnt write correct due to an alteration in battery voltage, vpp voltage or because the processor wont completely write because it is 15years old then the ecu is a brick. I had three spare ecus with me that day, an after market ecu as a get out of jail card, a uk and a jdm. Unfortunately the jdm in a j2 jdm case turned out to be a uk therefore no good unless I cut his loom and swapped three pins, I dont currently have a 99 car at my disposal, I have the loom from one and have used that to test ecus I am unsure which vintage they are before but when the ecu is in a case you assume its as it says it is. The p1 runs a type r/sti5 ecu you see. Therefore I went for the get out of jail card and fitted the after market ecu so Chris could get home. This last time I brought my entire stock of 15 ecus so as to take no chances.
The car has a battery voltage issue, programming voltage was 11.32v which will start the car and function correctly but is two low to be sure the voltage remains high enough during programming, strangly this wasnt the case the week before. So I used jump leads and a second battery, the next issue was the vpp voltage which is related to the test connectors that need connecting in order to program the ecu, I deliberatly dont wire a switch into these connectors and plug them direct to try and limit this issue. I managed to clean the connectors and the obd connector and the issue seemed resolved and I was able to program the ecu the number of times required to program the car. Some cars you program numerous times without issue during mapping. Other cars one of the many issues can occur during programming without any advance warning and the ecu becomes a brick. I replaced the failed ecu free of charge along with the ecutek licence and paid for the dyno time for the second time it went on the dyno the first time it got strapped down and then I checked the maf to find his original issue of a fake maf being supplied. I charged Chris no extra but I spent a lot of time on this car, an ecu, some dyno time down and a cording to you its all my fault. Awesome thanks mate.

TurboFreak

Just to support what Simon has posted, as I said the car has even tested him and he has given the details why in his reponse to XDevil666.

When I couldn't arrange things with Simon due him being off work I tried another Mapping company (Black Code), £250 deal for trade instead of £300.

When the guy finally got correct connection lead from his Manchester? head office he turned up and attempted remap, he was even asking me what wires were what... one hour later admitting he could not even connect to a 2000 'old school' ECU, so a complete waste of time.

OK, it cost me £660 with Simon but he got the job done, he didn't charge me more due the issues as explained by him, partly because I think he felt sorry for me tbh as he was aware how much grieve I was having with the P1.... so thanks Simon.

Linksfahrer

Well done Simon and to TurboFreak your P1 back on the road.

And to all the Thomas type people out there please lets just have a little more "Trust" first instead of "doubting".

Sure, come back with your critic once someone finally lets you down.
Lets see what Subaru say next about the sale of a non genuine MAF.

Ps No offence meant to anyone actually called Thomas its only biblical.
Ralph

johned

All`s well that ends well so now enjoy the car.Good luck with your next move.

chieftain333

What a complete mare! Shows you must really love the car to go through all that and still keep going. Nice work Simon,without doubt the best mapper out there

johned

How`s the car going?.

TurboFreak

great thanks, had a check engine light come on for 15 minutes the other day but fine since?

I am still putting paperwork together for my claim against Subaru UK parts supplier for selling me a dodgy faulty MAF.

I have decided to sell my Porsche Boxster and keep the P1, and may be doing some power upgrades later this year, or possibly look to buy a scooby with the upgrades already done, would like to have one running about 450+ bhp

johned

Great news,enjoy.

tan v5sti

Glad you got it sorted...i had same issue with my p1 as i was getting it mapped the maf screwed up..got a new maff from roger clarke..solved my issue and then took it to paul at zen performance..loving every minute of my 289whp and 290 ft of torque.hope you can put your bad experiance behind and enjoy the beast

TurboFreak

Update on my claim for compensation from Subaru UK for supply of non genuine faulty MAF sensor from the main dealer in Crawley.

When purchased part in December 2013 I did not fit straight away because it had no ID numbers on it and didn't seem genuine, however Subaru UK checked there supply against photo and confirmed it was exactly the same as the ones they had in stock and was indeed a genuine Subaru part.

Now they accept I was supplied with a non genuine MAF but are saying as it was on dealers shelf for 6 months prior to my purchase someone must have changed it over for the non genuine one?

Problem with this BS is that the MAF was checked with their stock and the UK stock manager told me the part supplied was exactly the same as what they had in stock... ie no ID numbers.

It is obvious they had a batch of non genuine MAFs.. they have even advised me they had a lot of faulty ones last year... wonder why?

I think the response from Subaru UK is disappointing and their argument that the MAF may have been changed while on the dealers shelf pathetic, especially considering they confirmed it was genuine as it was the same as rest of stock they had in December.

I have consulted with consumer direct who beleive Subaru are liable for my consequential costs and should pay compensation, also reported Subaru UK to trading standards for selling non genuine parts as genuine.

I now write a letter to them confirming the start of legal action through the courts in 2 weeks time under the sale of good act.... watch this space.

TurboFreak

Anyone want to buy a P1 with a noisy big end?

Just when I thought this car was sorted the replacement engine that was fitted about 1,000 miles ago appears to have done another big end shell, just like the original engine did after I had owned car for a couple of months.

This is an update on this post but I will probably decide to sell it now, so if anyone is interested then PM me, or if someone has a good engine running 350bhp+ and 6 speed gearbox I might be interested.

craigybaby

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Oh man your luck seems just like mine when it comes to cars don't sell !! Just plod on with it do you have a spare car ??? If so why not take if off the road and do a rebuild on it seems a shame to sell it on after all the hassle good luck with what ever route u choose mate

ditchmyster

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Did you discover the reason the original engine let go?

TurboFreak

Original engine had done only 3K when I bought car, it was s/h from a specialist Jap supplier in London and when fitted had uprated oil pump etc etc just like I have done with the one I fitted.
It was running like a dream, very smooth and fast, and didn't miss a beat, had it for about 2 months and a big end went on it, same as this one
Prior to my buying it the car had been in storage for about 1 year, I think if I had given it an oil change and filter it may have been ok, I had the oil and filter ready but the big end let go before I done the service.

This engine has had poor running because of the faulty MAF supplied by Subaru, it has been suggested this could be reason another engine has gone the same way?

TurboFreak

I love driving this car.. but feel really after all the efforts to get it sorted this has happened, if I had a good local mechanic who really knew Scoobies I might be tempted to either get this engine sorted or buy and fit another with a 6 speed box.

If someone has the knowledge to sort the big end out then they could buy a nice P1 at a bargain price.

MOTORS S GT

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I would say it was fuel diluted the oil, as you have had overfuelling for months, if you had changed the oil after all the bad running you would still have a good engine.

ditchmyster

iTrader: (7)

Sounds to me like there is another underlying issue with the car, which may well be fuel related and has never been sorted, ie, fuel pump, problem is if it is intermittent how many engines will it go through before you find out, it could also be as Paul above has stated that there was a lot of fuel in the oil, but that still doesn't explain the 2 previous engines.

These older cars are great when running properly but at 14/15yrs old as you have discovered, they can be an absolute nightmare and a total money pit which is the reason I've put my 97 type r into storage until I can afford to and have the time to do a FULL restoration.

TurboFreak

It had more of a poor idle problem then any other issue, then started pulling back on ocassions like a misfire, but car was not used while this issue was being sorted over the last 6 months.
Finally it was suggested an injector was the problem so fitted new/recon 550s and new Walbro pump, then had the remap done by JGM, as car would be over fuelling with these new injectors and was not being used.
It took 3 attempts to get car remapped, first time Simon confirmed the MAF sold to me by Crawley Subaru dealer was faulty, this was the reason for poor running.
Next week second attempt Simon was half was through remap and the ecu dies, and the 3 spare ECUs he had did not work.
Two weeks later, third attempt car got set up properly by Simon on rolling road in Farnborough.
I guess the car drove about 280 miles with over fuel issue getting it to rolling road and back, but speed was kept below 60 mph so thought fuel diluting the oil was unlikely.

TurboFreak

I do not have the time or inclination to sort this car out again so am selling, offer has been accepted and it should be trailored away this weekend.

I will have funds for a new toy in about one month, (house sell) so will def want another Scooby, prefer a P1 or RA but running a solid engine 400+bhp and 6 speed box, as this is probably what I would have ended up doing to my P1.

So if anyone out there is thinking of selling a nice example that has the power I am looking for then pm me... thanks.