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Old Feb 14, 2014 | 01:16 PM
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The worst citizen, in terms of the economy, is one who is "responsible."
They don't have children, don't watch TV, don't buy music, don't waste their money at coffee shops, movie theatres, bars or shopping malls.
They only eat low-cost unprocessed, healthy food like brown rice, oatmeal, beans, lentils, and vegetables. So in essence super healthy.
They walk or bike and use public transit and the public library.
They don't become addicted to unhealthy substances and they rarely need any health care. They are a scourge on the economy, and an enemy to job creation.
But on the same notion, responsible citizens don't: claim unnecessary benefits, live outside of there financial means, commit crime, waste commodities or over burden the health care system with unnecessary usage (not the best worded point but I can't think of any better way).

So the question is do the pros outweigh the cons?
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Old Feb 14, 2014 | 01:47 PM
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One thing is for certain...we are now in the utterly ridiculous position of the government telling us to stop smoking, stop drinking and drive our cars less...yet they are dependent on the taxes from those three things for their existence.

You couldn't make it up!
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Old Feb 14, 2014 | 01:50 PM
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They just hike the tax up to compensate.
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Old Feb 14, 2014 | 02:15 PM
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I've seen recently that IF everyone stopped doing those three things, income tax would need to rise to 75p in the £
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Old Feb 14, 2014 | 03:34 PM
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It costs billions upon billions to invade country's and go to war!
You must pay as much tax as you can
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Old Feb 14, 2014 | 03:40 PM
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It costs billions upon billions to invade country's and go to war!
You must pay as much tax as you can
Unless If governments used money raised by taxation to wage illegal war or to attack and kill civilians, then under international law a taxpayer’s normal duty to pay tax is reversed and becomes a duty to withhold tax.
But that's another kettle of fish
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Old Feb 14, 2014 | 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by stipete75
Unless If governments used money raised by taxation to wage illegal war or to attack and kill civilians, then under international law a taxpayer’s normal duty to pay tax is reversed and becomes a duty to withhold tax.
But that's another kettle of fish
As is a "d notice"
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Old Feb 14, 2014 | 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted by SouthWalesSam
He’s a financial genius that Osborne! After 3 years 8 months he drives inflation back down to where it was 4 years ago. Incredible!

You’re not just an ignorant, insecure, juvenile homophobic little we-wee (I’d say you were a pr1ck but you’re just too immature), you’re a desperate little myopic tw@t clutching at any passing straw to support your already discredited argument.
hiding you spending off the books to the tune of £300 billion worth of pfi contracts.

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/...pfi-cost-300bn

Yep total genius
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Old Feb 14, 2014 | 05:49 PM
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Stipete75, are you schitzophrenic?
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Old Feb 14, 2014 | 05:53 PM
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Stipete75, are you schitzophrenic?
He blends in well on NSR.
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Old Feb 14, 2014 | 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by alcazar
I've seen recently that IF everyone stopped doing those three things, income tax would need to rise to 75p in the £
Ah must have been in this weeks "fantasy weekly" was it ?
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Old Feb 14, 2014 | 06:39 PM
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Originally Posted by alcazar
We ARE booming again...if you only look at figures for London and the SE.

Last month they anounced record falls in the jobless totals...yet in Yorkshire, Humberside, the NE and the NW the totals went UP again for the fourth month running.

Humberside now has nearly 9% unemployed. And every couple of weeks another factory closes in Grimsby, or the steelworks sheds yet more jobs.

If you want to see part of the reason, visit the new Eastern European states that joined the EC a few years back now. The EC has ploughed €billions in to them. They have all brand new factories with SOFTA production lines and hey...guess where lots of companies are now moving their production to?

We are literally cutting our own throats. We were unbelievably stupid to allow these states into the EC. It was pressure from the USA that carried it, of course........
With all the cheap money and a housing boom being engineered, you would expect us to be 'booming'.
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Old Feb 14, 2014 | 07:01 PM
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Stipete75, are you schitzophrenic?

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Old Feb 14, 2014 | 08:42 PM
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Aww, what a cute wee face!
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Old Feb 18, 2014 | 09:38 PM
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-26239631


Oh my god! How will the Scoobynet moaners cope with another piece of remotely positive news? Perhaps three pages of rhetoric about scum bag politicians?

I'll check back in a couple of days to find out

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Old Feb 19, 2014 | 08:30 AM
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My bet says F1_fan gets in first.
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Old Feb 19, 2014 | 10:04 AM
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It gets better!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ke-Savile.html
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Old Feb 19, 2014 | 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by SJ_Skyline
Yes but the article uses the following falacious statement :-

"A daily mail investigation has discovered....."

Which actually means

"We have concoted lots of vague inuendo and smears around the odd irelevant facts and carefully worded them to avoid any libel laws so here goes....."
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Old Feb 19, 2014 | 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by mattstant
Yes but the article uses the following falacious statement :-

"A daily mail investigation has discovered....."

Which actually means

"We have concoted lots of vague inuendo and smears around the odd irelevant facts and carefully worded them to avoid any libel laws so here goes....."
Oh my God, the Daily Mail make **** up? My world is falling apart!
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Old Feb 19, 2014 | 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Dingdongler
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-26239631


Oh my god! How will the Scoobynet moaners cope with another piece of remotely positive news? Perhaps three pages of rhetoric about scum bag politicians?

I'll check back in a couple of days to find out
Ah come on....inflation is THE fakest of all the faked figures.

Wasn't it Labour who removed , fuel, energy and mortgages from the calculation, replacing them with leather sofas and DVD players? You know...things folk can't do without?
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Old Feb 19, 2014 | 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by alcazar
Ah come on....inflation is THE fakest of all the faked figures.

Wasn't it Labour who removed , fuel, energy and mortgages from the calculation, replacing them with leather sofas and DVD players? You know...things folk can't do without?
Short answer...No

Do you ever check your facts before posting?

No wonder you have such a daft world view, most of the things that you believe (want to believe) are completely wrong
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Old Feb 19, 2014 | 05:04 PM
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Unemployment down 125,000 today, things really are looking up aren't they
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Old Feb 19, 2014 | 05:10 PM
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Interesting, from the BBC as well:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/10604117

Blair came to power and inherited a falling unemployment rate which then soon flatlined before rising sharply. Back in came the tories and it flatlined again before falling sharply again.
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Old Feb 19, 2014 | 05:15 PM
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Mr blair is one of the biggest terrorists of all time.
So many have suffered at his hands and still continue to suffer whilst the guy relishes in huge wealth living the life of Riley!!
99% of what has come out of his mouth is utter lies.
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Old Feb 19, 2014 | 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Martin2005
Short answer...No

Do you ever check your facts before posting?

No wonder you have such a daft world view, most of the things that you believe (want to believe) are completely wrong
Oh...right...who was it then, oh great "No it isn't, no it doesnt" purveyor?

LOL...your response was yet another Martin classic...denial with NO substance....ARE you a politician?
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Old Feb 19, 2014 | 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Chip
Unemployment down 125,000 today, things really are looking up aren't they
Unless you live in any of the areas where it's gone up again....!
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Old Feb 19, 2014 | 06:11 PM
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Unless you live in any of the areas where it's gone up again....!
Unemployment in Scunthorpe is down 3.7% on a year ago.
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Old Feb 19, 2014 | 07:59 PM
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Not according to local figures...it's risen month on month for the last SEVEN months now in N Lincs.

As it has in S and W Yorks, E Yorks, NE Lincs and the NE.
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Old Feb 19, 2014 | 09:20 PM
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Originally Posted by alcazar
Oh...right...who was it then, oh great "No it isn't, no it doesnt" purveyor?

LOL...your response was yet another Martin classic...denial with NO substance....ARE you a politician?
No you just made yet another factually incorrect statement. To which all you can add is your usual deflective stock answer

The facts are the facts, I don't need to post them up, you just need to try checking them before posting. But as a help, try the ONS website that should be your first port of call before making daft statements about inflation

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Old Feb 19, 2014 | 09:27 PM
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Originally Posted by stipete75
Mr blair is one of the biggest terrorists of all time.
See he was on the news again tonight, I'm sure he's been banging Rebecca Brooks, he's now offering advice to the ginger minger over the phone hacking scandal.
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