Dingdongler

George's autumn statement...

Growth up. There was NO double dip recession let alone a triple dip

Unemployment down

Deficit down

Borrowing down

Can you imagine the carnage if Gordong, ***** or Milliband were in charge??

AndyBaker

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I would rather not thank you

dnc

Agree.

The only black cloud is that he is not reporting a fall in the number of trance appreciators.

f1_fan

iTrader: (9)

There was a double dip 2011 Q4 - 2012 Q2.

As for the rest of it yes we are in a better position than I expect we would be had *****/Brown been in charge, but we are still not going to start reducing the debt until 2020 and outside of London and the SE the growth is less evident or not there at all (not that you will personally give a **** about that).

We also have a huge problem with poverty and personal debt that they (all parties) seem to deliberately ignore.

That and no one will deal with the welfare state's ludicrous drain on the country's finances!

Dingdongler

Andy (COB) is a top bloke though, he just lets himself down with his taste in music

Dingdongler

Hopefully we'll have made some more progress by the time you move to Australia

f1_fan

iTrader: (9)

Ah yes Australia, a country with a work ethic and a national debt some 13% of ours

Matteeboy

We are still doomed! ;-)

f1_fan

iTrader: (9)

I've given up mentioning it.... if they think reducing the amount our £1.3 trillion debt is increasing by month on month is a huge success let them get on wth it!

Busterbulldog

iTrader: (1)

Someones doing well out of it ...they must be having £1.3 trillion to lend

chocolate_o_brian

iTrader: (22)

Oi! I heard that

dnc

You got a 'trancebashing-dar' or something?

daviee

Stolen from the state pension fund
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/p...ise-to-84.html

Any middle earner tory lovers under 38 enjoy grafting till you are 70

cster

Don't be so harsh.
Gordon did some wonderful things.
Who can forget the rise of the PCTs under his aegis?
In our dotage, it will be another case of - What have the Romans ever done for us?

Dingdongler

No you haven't.

alcazar

iTrader: (2)

Not much, if any, growth is evident in the Humberside and NE areas.

But what would government care about us?

paulr

If you only care about the 5 year election cycle, good news.
If you care about our long term future................thats another story.

^Qwerty^

It seems apparent to me that Humberside, both north and south bank are pinning their hopes on offshore wind, the manufacturer and ongoing support of. It’s now three years since Siemens expressed an interest in opening a factory in Hull, and yet still nothing. Surely there has to come a time where it is no longer viable to go to the expense of building and opening a manufacturing plant since the North Sea will already be full of windmills?

There is, AFAIK a shortage of civil aircraft manufacturing facilities in the UK and Europe, but it looks like the chance of doing something at Brough has been squandered, instead the place will eventually be turned in to housing estate, as the place limps on to a slow and gradual death.

That leaves us with Caravans 

pflowers

How anyone can think that labour did anything but wreck this country is beyond my comprehension.

RA Dunk

They should be trialled for treason and forced to disband for gross incompetence TBH, they should never have the opportunity to govern this country again, yes they we're actually that bad.

jonc

If you want to see how the UK would look now had Mili-***** got in, take a good look at France, a second downgrade in less than 2 years to a S&P rating of AA.

f1_fan

iTrader: (9)

Trouble is we were all saying that about the Conservatives in 1997.

What is beyond my comprehension is how people like pflowers (not singling him out, but his is the last post to say it, there are plenty more on here) can really think the mess we're in now is all down to one political party rather than a hsitory of poor governments and a lack of proper investment in UK society for at least 40 years and probably longer!

I think people like him pin their hopes on it being all down to a single government as they don't want to face the truth that all politicians are greedy self serving pigs at the trough, much of the population are now laden with no work ethic and a huge sense of entitlement because of those governments and as a country in the medium to long term we are utterly f**ked!

With a bit of luck I will be sat in Aus in a couple of years time and can watch the meltdown from afar. You will have to accept my apologies if I don't shed too many tears!

RA Dunk

Yup I agree it isn't just Labour like you say but a succession of poor governments, but to me Labour has done the most damage by far.

Problem is there is very little difference between each party nowadays they all seem to say the same things and stand for the same policies the EU this, the Enviroment that and lots of other things the average Joe on the street dosent really give to flying ***** about.

I'm seeing on the news daily now we're now past the worst of it and the future is all Rosy again, call me a cynic but I'm not believing it. If the future is so bright and good why are we about to sell off our 40% (I think) share of Euro tunnel?

paulr

The ignorance on this thread is.................well, i just give up.

If i was a banker i would be laughing my **** off. They nearly force a collapse of the banking system, then someone else gets the blame.

f1_fan

iTrader: (9)

As Thatcher did they are asset stripping the country and deliberately selling these outfits off for way less than their market value so all the little people buying shares and making a couple of hundred quid think they are wonderful and vote for them! Sickening!

john banks

No we weren't. Maybe compare the country in 1997 with 1979.

f1_fan

iTrader: (9)

No we definitely were! You as a blind supporter of anything with a blue rosette may not have been, but most neutrals and normal people were!

pflowers

I agree 100%.

I honestly believe no party can sort the mess out properly, as a country we are doomed, it's too late.

trails

iTrader: (41)

The ignorance on this thread is...........well I just give up.

If I were the governing party during the collapse I would be laughing my **** off. They nearly force a collapse of the economy, then someone else gets the blame.


Just saying

Martin2005

I really don't agree with this.

Labour did many good things in office, they were just in office too long for the good of the country and themselves!