Mitchell-gate...now £1/3 million.....
05 November 2013, 04:15 PM
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You have a nice day now 
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05 November 2013, 04:15 PM
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Countries a joke I would just keep throwing money at it regardless, politicians seem to do **** all for us using any common sense and police aren't allowed to do anything as the government don't let let them, **** the both of em I say
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05 November 2013, 04:17 PM
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I was just pointing out that your track record on judging these situations isn't exactly 100%
btw - an awful lot of people at the time thought his punishment was far more than 'you or I' could expect
Chris Huhne and Vicky Pryce's crimes do not fit the heavy punishment
05 November 2013, 05:35 PM
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05 November 2013, 07:49 PM
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Nothing at all.
I was just pointing out that your track record on judging these situations isn't exactly 100%
btw - an awful lot of people at the time thought his punishment was far more than 'you or I' could expect
Chris Huhne and Vicky Pryce's crimes do not fit the heavy punishment
I was just pointing out that your track record on judging these situations isn't exactly 100%
btw - an awful lot of people at the time thought his punishment was far more than 'you or I' could expect
Chris Huhne and Vicky Pryce's crimes do not fit the heavy punishment
You or I would have gone to prison for longer than the Huhnes, stayed in longer and you know it.
Oh, and I did admit to being wrong at the time, so
05 November 2013, 09:25 PM
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Yes I am absolutely suggesting the case be dropped.
1) It is not a huge issue to most people, just people like you. It happens every day with police, politicians and media to normal everyday people and just because this is one of Cameron's mates does not make it a huge isse.
2) it has been investigated TWICE already and 'the truth' cannot be found as both parties are lying and it is now one word against another. Given who it is that's involved I doubt the truth could ever be extracted even with torture as I think the truth is an alien concept to these people!
3) Aside from Cameron and a few other policitians and senior policemen who cares what was said? I care more about wasting yet more of our money flogging a dead horse.
Finally why do you believe most policticans are so honourable when just abotu everything else illustrates with facts that they are not! You are utterly deluded or maybe you are shacked up with one or something weirder!!
1) It is not a huge issue to most people, just people like you. It happens every day with police, politicians and media to normal everyday people and just because this is one of Cameron's mates does not make it a huge isse.
2) it has been investigated TWICE already and 'the truth' cannot be found as both parties are lying and it is now one word against another. Given who it is that's involved I doubt the truth could ever be extracted even with torture as I think the truth is an alien concept to these people!
3) Aside from Cameron and a few other policitians and senior policemen who cares what was said? I care more about wasting yet more of our money flogging a dead horse.
Finally why do you believe most policticans are so honourable when just abotu everything else illustrates with facts that they are not! You are utterly deluded or maybe you are shacked up with one or something weirder!!
And even if it did , what would change ( **** all )
That aside who gives a **** when it's costing this much
For such a trivial issue that is comparable with kids in a playground
05 November 2013, 09:56 PM
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The sentences looked pretty par for the course to me, but having said that, I am not professionally involved in the criminal justice system
Are you?
05 November 2013, 11:37 PM
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.........listened to the two police officers today on the news and they don't make the police look good at all.
Maybe it was sliced and diced to make it look that way.
Shaun
Maybe it was sliced and diced to make it look that way.
Shaun
06 November 2013, 07:35 AM
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When the police try to "verbal" a cabinet minister and get caught out - it is never going to end up looking good for the police.
It is interesting that so many wanted to believe the story in the first instance and also that the police involved were happy to run it out. I am not sure which of the two groups I have a lower opinion of.
A rather hopeless state of affairs is it not?
It is interesting that so many wanted to believe the story in the first instance and also that the police involved were happy to run it out. I am not sure which of the two groups I have a lower opinion of.
A rather hopeless state of affairs is it not?
06 November 2013, 07:54 AM
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When the police try to "verbal" a cabinet minister and get caught out - it is never going to end up looking good for the police.
It is interesting that so many wanted to believe the story in the first instance and also that the police involved were happy to run it out. I am not sure which of the two groups I have a lower opinion of.
A rather hopeless state of affairs is it not?
It is interesting that so many wanted to believe the story in the first instance and also that the police involved were happy to run it out. I am not sure which of the two groups I have a lower opinion of.
A rather hopeless state of affairs is it not?
06 November 2013, 09:03 AM
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But surely this IS now the point: no-one will be held accountable because it's down to their word against his.
And it's laughable to think that either a politician or a police officer would NOT tell lies.
Even if someone WERE found to have lied...what EXACTLY would happen?
A politician would resign as a minister and be re-appointed six months down the line after an apology.
A police officer would either get a reprimand, or be allowed to retire on full benefits.
And it's laughable to think that either a politician or a police officer would NOT tell lies.
Even if someone WERE found to have lied...what EXACTLY would happen?
A politician would resign as a minister and be re-appointed six months down the line after an apology.
A police officer would either get a reprimand, or be allowed to retire on full benefits.
06 November 2013, 09:36 AM
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Would you rather this sort behaviour by the Police goes unchecked? Their misconduct resulted in a senior minister resigning from the cabinet. Whether the truth comes out at this stage is irrelevent and what this inquiry will do is send out a message that all those in the Police force on all levels are publically accountable for their conduct. I do not want a Police force that thinks it can lie, cheat and conspire and be allowed get away with it. What kind of message will that send out?!
06 November 2013, 10:49 AM
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06 November 2013, 10:57 AM
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At a time when cuts to the police were high profile maybe swearing at them wasn't such a good idea on Mitchell's part, but then embellishing the truth was even less of a good idea on the part of the police involved (whether they decided to do that off their own backs or under 'advice' from other officers)!
06 November 2013, 11:32 AM
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I disagree with your stated opinion and would be interested to hear how you have managed to come to this seemingly unequivocal opinion/conclusion.
The sentences looked pretty par for the course to me, but having said that, I am not professionally involved in the criminal justice system
Are you?
The sentences looked pretty par for the course to me, but having said that, I am not professionally involved in the criminal justice system
Are you?
And as for going equipped for arson.....it's a joke.
06 November 2013, 01:12 PM
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About time this was put to bed and Mitchell justs says I was wrong to swear at the officers and we agree to disagree what was actually said.
If he had not sworn at the officers there would never have been a problem. Lets reverse it and the police officers had sworn at him. Probably the sack by now. What a farce and what a disgrace this present Tory government and in particular this Home Secretary who appoints her own 'independent' advisor on Police pay and conditions as her HMIC.
The only people who do not seem to suffer from independent reviews on pay and conditions are ? YES you guessed it the pigs to the trough MPs. What a disgrace. Mitchell needs to be big enough and just apologise and move on.
If he had not sworn at the officers there would never have been a problem. Lets reverse it and the police officers had sworn at him. Probably the sack by now. What a farce and what a disgrace this present Tory government and in particular this Home Secretary who appoints her own 'independent' advisor on Police pay and conditions as her HMIC.
The only people who do not seem to suffer from independent reviews on pay and conditions are ? YES you guessed it the pigs to the trough MPs. What a disgrace. Mitchell needs to be big enough and just apologise and move on.
06 November 2013, 01:26 PM
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You've been blatantly lied to by the police before? You must be a 1st.. Happened to me on several occasions over the years, friends and family too.
06 November 2013, 06:04 PM
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Yes because he should have been respected as a member of the government, if the police don't respect the government and tell lies what chance does the little man on the street have in receiving justice and fair play.
They only acted like they did because at the time their pensions were being knobbled.
They only acted like they did because at the time their pensions were being knobbled.
06 November 2013, 08:24 PM
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07 November 2013, 11:07 AM
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He kinda asked for evidence. Of the 6 occassions you've listed you've only actually given evidence of one.