jaytc2003

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or the fact it is all open source means you can update anyway

Geezer

Unless you have an original iPad or older iPod or original iPhone..........

Geezer

JackClark

You're ****ting me! Are you seriously trying to berate Apple for the amount of time they support their products? Wake up man! Over 90% of Android users are out of support!!

JackClark

Yes, because writing drivers for bazzilions of different hardware combinations is super easy... said no one ever.

Galifrey

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Are you seriously trying to big up Apple because they only need to update a handful of devices?



Which is why Apple have it so easy with the Macs compared to MS with Windoze.

JackClark

Yes I am. Apple make the hardware and the software, desktop, mobile and TV. It's why Android and Windows can't compete. If you haven't worked that out by now there's no hope.

dpb

Another massive avoider

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-22607349

JackClark

You really don't keep up with current affairs do you. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-22585407

dpb

He'll never get in power!...empty words

JackClark

Woosh.

dpb

What do you mean by that

Galifrey

iTrader: (3)

Sorry Windows cant compete with Apple.... Where is that? On planet fantasyland?

JackClark

I don't know one person who's gone from a Mac to a PC. Millions however have switched to Apple. Telling.

Carlh

these threads are so boring now. I used to get entertained with them. No doubt, someone will start a Xbox ONE vs PS4 thread.

Go on, I double dare you. lol.

Galifrey

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I would imagine anyone you know being afraid to mention they have gone back to a PC.

Geezer

Simply point out the fact you make it out like Apple products are future proof when in fact that is simply not the case.

Also, the original iPad is hardly 'old tech' is it? It's not like "my 15 year old Apple device can be upgraded". It's only 3 years since it came out, we are awaiting iPad 5! So, if you want this wonderful iOS7, you have to shell out for God knows what, as we don't know what devices will support iOS7!

Apple really are no better, the reason you refuse to see that doesn't make it untrue.

Geezer

JackClark

So, iPad released just over 3 years ago, four revisions since then, one of which is simply a connector. So that's 1 release a year and you find that unreasonable?? Dumbfounded.

The original iPad still performs as well as the latest Android device, amazing eh!

And no better than what? Which other manufacturer designs the hardware and the software, that's right... none.

Tidgy

also no other manufacturer loads the price as heavily as apple, you missed that one jack

Geezer

Not unreasonable, no, but you tout Apple being sooooooo good to their customers, you can upgrade, unlike those poor Android or whatever customers, but they are no better. Most people do not upgrade every year, more like every 2 at the most, but more likley to be 3, 4 or even more. Those people are now in exactly the same boat as Android users as their original iPad is not compatible. They are forced into keeping iOS n or buying new hardware, exactly the same as other vendors. Phone users will upgrade sooner due to the way contracts work, but tablet owners (and they are a large capital outlay, unlike the drip feed of a phone contract) are hit hard no matter who they have chosen.

And why do you keep harping on about desiging the hardware and the software? What's so hard about that? Or good? There are arguments for and against that model, which are not worth repeating here.

Geezer

JackClark

Loads the price! Hardly, quality support and materials are not cheap. It's been proved many times that the total cost of ownership of Apple products is far less than others.

JackClark

What a load of drivel. I'd much rather be an iPad users who's enjoyed 3 years of outstanding support than a Samsung user who's dropped like a stone after 6 months.

Arguments not worth repeating here, that's a cop out if I ever heard one.

Tidgy

that why there built in sweat shops in china?

JackClark

What's not nowadays. Fair play to Apple though, moving production away from China. Can't see Samsung doing the same.

Tidgy

as long as there all doing then its all ok isn't it,,,,,,,, is it?????


by why the price loading when its cheap as chips to make?

dpb

Certainly not saving it for the tax man,funding charitable causes etc...

JackClark

Look at the materials and the support offered. Ground breaking manufacturing techniques aren't cheap, you should ask why Samsung phones cost the same when they're plastic and come with a phone line in India to call for help... which you will need.

daz1968

iTrader: (13)

Unfortunately the iOS and android debate will continue, I for one chose apple and the build quality and design of there stuff is superb, the iTunes and App Store are great and they just feel better put together, they also hold good resale price when you want to upgrade, but I also find that once you have chosen one system its very rare to change. I currently have 2 iPods an iPhone and and ipad. Only issue I have with apple is the evolution often makes accessories obsolete but then that applies with most technology

jonc

Well going by your logic, if Apple products are so so good that even old devices works amazing well against current Android devices, why would you even need the support, thus paying for something you don't need because "it just works".

JackClark

Support encompasses many things. Some people might like to go to the store for some training on a certain application, some might wonder what a certain button or command does, and sometimes components fail, a Samsung chip or hard drive for instance.

DJ Dunk

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Safari and Chrome/Android Browser pretty much bang on 30% each. Followed by IE with 20%.