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Old 15 May 2013, 09:14 AM
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A place in the country..?


Certainly isn't reaching here
Old 15 May 2013, 09:24 AM
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You'll be using an iPhone 8 or a Galaxy S22 - iPhone killer #22 - before you see 3G let alone 4G. So what's the fuss? It's the Samdroid users obsession with bigger numbers, that's what's up.
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Screw 4g I'm waiting for 5g
Old 16 May 2013, 12:39 AM
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Originally Posted by JackClark
Define not going anywhere then define better. It's way too simple just making sweeping statements without references. In the last year Apple have released boat loads of innovative hardware and software, this year we get iOS 7 a natural proggression that will of course be a revalation and a glimpse of how other operating systems will evolve.

You've been spouting the demise of Apple for years now and they just keep getting better.

I see your bum chum Cockforger's arrived, can you two circle jerk out of public view please.
Reference?
The last 3 updates of iOS have all been bugged so badly that they caused major issues with the handset (like overheating batteries and batteries lasting less than an hour), not even going to mention Apple Maps (ooops just did ) and the 8 million iphone 5's that were returned due to "faults".

So as for those sweeping statements, there are none, you can see that iOS and Apple are not the market leaders so they need to look at what others are doing, and iOS7 wont be the answer, iOS hasn't evolved at all, its just gotten worse with every update.
Old 16 May 2013, 06:51 AM
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Beastie, get back in your cage, your confused. The iPhone 5 works great with 4G on EE in the UK. Now, a quick question for you, what is your data allowance? Mine is unlimited and streams Netflix and BBC iPlayer and all kinds of great content without interruption, saves my home network bandwidth, what am I missing out on exactly?
Well I am on Vodafone so we are not quite there yet. My Iphone 5 works great in Singapore on 4G though and unlimted data.

Do you see us all moving to EE so we can use our iphone 5 on 4G??
Old 16 May 2013, 09:39 AM
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http://finance.yahoo.com/news/apple-...100000396.html
Old 16 May 2013, 10:08 AM
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Reference?
The last 3 updates of iOS have all been bugged so badly that they caused major issues with the handset (like overheating batteries and batteries lasting less than an hour), not even going to mention Apple Maps (ooops just did ) and the 8 million iphone 5's that were returned due to "faults".

So as for those sweeping statements, there are none, you can see that iOS and Apple are not the market leaders so they need to look at what others are doing, and iOS7 wont be the answer, iOS hasn't evolved at all, its just gotten worse with every update.
Funny how people who haven't used iOS seem to say the same things. Every update for me has been awesome, no issues and great new features, yes that includes Apple maps, which are excellent for many reasons, being able to find a Kebab shop in a remote northern town is not a priority for me.

Have a think for a minute about all of those cheap Android units out there and major iPhone killers that never sold, they don't get repaired they go straight to landfill. That's the shocking truth.
Old 16 May 2013, 10:09 AM
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Doomed.
Old 16 May 2013, 12:47 PM
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FFS are guys still going on about which is best?
Who cares??
Old 16 May 2013, 01:22 PM
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Tony cares.
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I thought it was only EE that had 4G in the UK at the moment anyway??
Old 16 May 2013, 06:29 PM
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Yes but Android!
Old 16 May 2013, 09:17 PM
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Originally Posted by JackClark
Funny how people who haven't used iOS seem to say the same things. Every update for me has been awesome, no issues and great new features, yes that includes Apple maps, which are excellent for many reasons, being able to find a Kebab shop in a remote northern town is not a priority for me.

Have a think for a minute about all of those cheap Android units out there and major iPhone killers that never sold, they don't get repaired they go straight to landfill. That's the shocking truth.
Jack,
I have used both, and to be fair, day to day usage there's nowt to choose between them. Apple has the edge in some places, Android in others.

But, to say that each release is awesome is stretching it somewhat. iOS 6.1 bricked my iPod. It did some very weird things to my wife's iPhone. When I eventually fixed my iPod, it was slower. They screwed maps. They are becoming exactly what all the Apple fans of old despised. Arrogant, complacent, safe.

I have no doubt that someone will take on that mantle again, but it won't be Apple. Every dog has its day. Their's has been, possibly.

Android and Samsung are now seen as the innovators. And then they will fade too, when someone else steps up. It's just the way it is.

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Old 16 May 2013, 09:49 PM
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I'm really not sure Jack can cope with so much truth,all at once
Old 16 May 2013, 10:03 PM
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Come on then. What innovation? The whole Android community were wailing and stomping their feet yesterday, no new version for the developer conference, want to know why? Apple are about to release a major update, Google are waiting for ideas.
Old 16 May 2013, 10:07 PM
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Oh and dpb, all updates have been awesome for *me* your experience may differ.

And just a quick one on maps, I still use Google maps sometimes but for navigation Apple maps have placed my TomTom in the bin, I say that's great, you say that's screwed.
Old 16 May 2013, 11:02 PM
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Originally Posted by JackClark
Doomed.
Apple have had their day and to quote a phrase you frequently use, keep sucking those lemons!!
Old 16 May 2013, 11:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Geezer
Jack,
I have used both, and to be fair, day to day usage there's nowt to choose between them. Apple has the edge in some places, Android in others.

But, to say that each release is awesome is stretching it somewhat. iOS 6.1 bricked my iPod. It did some very weird things to my wife's iPhone. When I eventually fixed my iPod, it was slower. They screwed maps. They are becoming exactly what all the Apple fans of old despised. Arrogant, complacent, safe.

I have no doubt that someone will take on that mantle again, but it won't be Apple. Every dog has its day. Their's has been, possibly.

Android and Samsung are now seen as the innovators. And then they will fade too, when someone else steps up. It's just the way it is.

Geezer
So true, like Francis Fukuyama polemic "The End of History" Jack is on the wrong side of it
Old 17 May 2013, 08:47 AM
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Doomed... again. If you can let me know when 1 Infinite Loop is closing down that would be nice. I have never made a support call, not needed, but would like to get one in before they close the door.

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Old 17 May 2013, 12:19 PM
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Poor ol' Blackberry......Could Microsoft be the new "Apple" in the smartphone market? Note the decline of Apple's market share despite the slight increase in shipment and the gains for Microsoft....sure it's early days but......

http://allthingsd.com/20130516/windo...at-it-matters/
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What a great report, shows just how common Android has become what with all the 10p telephones coming out of the east. But shipment numbers mean nothing, I run a lovely somewhat Subaru related Web Site, it's pretty popular, here's a break down of Mobile traffic, as you can see iOS dominates in real world usage. This is common across all web sites.

Apple iPad
2,475
Apple iPhone
1,951
(not set)
471
Samsung GT-I9300 Galaxy SIII
439
Samsung GT-I9100 Galaxy S II
181
Apple iPod
106
Samsung GT-P5100 Galaxy Tab 2 10.1
82 .
Google Nexus 7
75
Samsung GT-N7100 Galaxy Note II
73
Nokia Lumia 800
54
Old 17 May 2013, 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by JackClark
What a great report, shows just how common Android has become what with all the 10p telephones coming out of the east. But shipment numbers mean nothing, I run a lovely somewhat Subaru related Web Site, it's pretty popular, here's a break down of Mobile traffic, as you can see iOS dominates in real world usage. This is common across all web sites.

Apple iPad
2,475
Apple iPhone
1,951
(not set)
471
Samsung GT-I9300 Galaxy SIII
439
Samsung GT-I9100 Galaxy S II
181
Apple iPod
106
Samsung GT-P5100 Galaxy Tab 2 10.1
82 .
Google Nexus 7
75
Samsung GT-N7100 Galaxy Note II
73
Nokia Lumia 800
54
You berate Android for being common, well your post just shows just how common Apple are too!!
Old 17 May 2013, 01:20 PM
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Big difference between Common and frequently used. The number is far more stark when you track devices to purchases.
Old 17 May 2013, 02:22 PM
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So what's your point, that Apple users surf the web more?
Old 17 May 2013, 02:42 PM
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That shipping figures and real world use are very different beasts. Lots of Android land fill.
Old 17 May 2013, 03:24 PM
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How did you get these figures..?
Old 17 May 2013, 03:26 PM
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No, all that tells me is that Android users have better things to do that surf the web all day!
Old 17 May 2013, 04:31 PM
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Ha, yeah like a Fart App Jon?

DPB, it's my site, but common knowledge across web masters. I'd love to see Scoobynet's stats.
Old 17 May 2013, 09:22 PM
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I seen android got a raving review in this weeks Watchdog program on BBC, Not!!
Old 17 May 2013, 11:22 PM
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iPhone 5, 5 million *sales* in 3 days, restricted number of countries.

Galaxy 4, *shipped* 6 million units in 4 weeks global roll out.

Got to love the facts, you Samdroids need to smell the coffee, you're victims of marketing.


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