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Old Mar 3, 2013 | 09:32 PM
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LOL......!!!!!

Just read this thread.

Ditch, if you could of got an STI in the wagon form you desired would you of bought one or stuck with the WRX ?? Honestly.

Also, if any of you can match those 0-60 times in your WRX I'll go out and buy one tomorrow and join in the "wrx is better" debate :-)

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Well all i can say is when i bought my first WRX in 04 i had the cash to buy the STI and took one out and decided it was too harsh for what i wanted it for, which was work, and around 1000 miles a week.

But to be honest with what i know now and my situation now, If they did a same spec STI wagon, then yes i would have one, i'm not stupid.

I just don't like the way the STI fanboys try and ride the WRX, especially in the face of the facts.

The STI is always going to be the better base for mods because it's stronger, but in the real world it's really not a better daily, for me but i like most would put up with the crashy ride and dodgy gearing because i could mod it to 450 bhp and rag the **** off it at the weekend on track.

At the end of the day i'm a subaru fan and the compromise i have to make is that i need a wagon so i run the next best thing, which by an amusing coincidence happens to be faster than a standard STI.

It just makes me p1ss that those that have an STI can't handle that, and spout all sorts to prove otherwise when the numbers speak for themselves, to be fair i knew i'd hook tubbs, was just hoping to get a few others as well, but they are obviously smarter than he is.

edit to add; i never said it was better, just faster in a given situation.

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Old Mar 3, 2013 | 11:44 PM
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Originally Posted by ditchmyster

I just don't like the way the STI fanboys try and ride the WRX, especially in the face of the facts.
Just like the 2L fanboys with the 2.5 cars, oh and the jdm fanboys with the uk cars.
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Old Mar 3, 2013 | 11:46 PM
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Originally Posted by ditchmyster
Well all i can say is when i bought my first WRX in 04 i had the cash to buy the STI and took one out and decided it was too harsh for what i wanted it for, which was work, and around 1000 miles a week.

But to be honest with what i know now and my situation now, If they did a same spec STI wagon, then yes i would have one, i'm not stupid.

I just don't like the way the STI fanboys try and ride the WRX, especially in the face of the facts.

The STI is always going to be the better base for mods because it's stronger, but in the real world it's really not a better daily, for me but i like most would put up with the crashy ride and dodgy gearing because i could mod it to 450 bhp and rag the **** off it at the weekend on track.

At the end of the day i'm a subaru fan and the compromise i have to make is that i need a wagon so i run the next best thing, which by an amusing coincidence happens to be faster than a standard STI.

It just makes me p1ss that those that have an STI can't handle that, and spout all sorts to prove otherwise when the numbers speak for themselves, to be fair i knew i'd hook tubbs, was just hoping to get a few others as well, but they are obviously smarter than he is.

edit to add; i never said it was better, just faster in a given situation.

where did you hook me? i had a wrx and never once did i say i dont like them, just said in my opinion they are not as fast as an sti

as i bought mine to modify it would be a pointless waste of money to start with a wrx really due to its weakness in gearbox and other departments

it is a more comfortable drive, but to buy an impreza for a comfortable drive must confirm your an idiot.

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Old Mar 3, 2013 | 11:47 PM
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Just like the 2L fanboys with the 2.5 cars, oh and the jdm fanboys with the uk cars.

the 2.5 is a crap engine even the tuners will tell you that
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Old Mar 3, 2013 | 11:53 PM
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Page 7, 23.53 on a Sunday and UK 2000's are still shyte
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Old Mar 3, 2013 | 11:54 PM
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Page 7, 23.53 on a Sunday and UK 2000's are still shyte

yup and were from page 1
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Old Mar 3, 2013 | 11:54 PM
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Originally Posted by tubbytommy
where did you hook me? i had a wrx and never once did i say i dont like them, just said in my opinion they are not as fast as an sti

as i bought mine to modify it would be a pointless waste of money to start with a wrx really due to its weakness in gearbox and other departments

it is a more comfortable drive, but to buy an impreza for a comfortable drive must confirm your an idiot.
Lol the only one that made themselves look an idiot was you, but we've all come to expect that from you.

I'll leave you alone now, it's so easy it's not fun anymore.
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Old Mar 3, 2013 | 11:55 PM
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Originally Posted by ditchmyster
Lol the only one that made themselves look an idiot was you, but we've all come to expect that from you.

I'll leave you alone now, it's so easy it's not fun anymore.

ahhh the losers get out, good night
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Old Mar 3, 2013 | 11:59 PM
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a standard uk2000 simply isn't a quick car.... a clio 182 would eat one even on back roads as unless set up for it a scoob isn't that great in a back road bashing either imo. get the wallet out and get upgrading
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Old Mar 4, 2013 | 12:00 AM
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Originally Posted by tubbytommy
the 2.5 is a crap engine even the tuners will tell you that
And the blob is butt ugly and you have to rev the bollocks off it to get anything out of it.
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Old Mar 4, 2013 | 12:01 AM
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And the blob is butt ugly and you have to rev the bollocks off it to get anything out of it.

but i didnt need to rebuld my engine....................
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Originally Posted by tubbytommy
the 2.5 is a crap engine even the tuners will tell you that
Not to mention the snoozefest drive by dire throttle
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Old Mar 4, 2013 | 12:06 AM
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Originally Posted by 53
Not to mention the snoozefest drive by dire throttle
Whats snooze fest about it? It can be set up to how you like by your mapper, oh and you can have flat foot gear shift. Your stuck in the past bro
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Originally Posted by tubbytommy
but i didnt need to rebuld my engine....................
Ok you have convinced me. subaru are rubbish. i'm selling up and buying a Kia.
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Old Mar 4, 2013 | 12:08 AM
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Originally Posted by chopperman
Whats snooze fest about it? It can be set up to how you like by your mapper, oh and you can have flat foot gear shift. Your stuck in the past bro

i actually quite like the drive by wire and facility to add flat foot shifting also a rebuilt 2.5 is a nice torquey engine.

its just the poor quality and reliability of the standard engine i think is a joke.

you know a standard 2.5 is ****, you have the bill to prove it

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Nope DBW feels detatched regardless of how it's mapped it's one of the worst things Subaru did to the Impreza. Never liked mine before or after, left me cold wanting more mechanical feedback
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Old Mar 4, 2013 | 12:17 AM
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Originally Posted by tubbytommy
i actually quite like the drive by wire and facility to add flat foot shifting also a rebuilt 2.5 is a nice torquey engine.

its just the poor quality and reliability of the standard engine i think is a joke.

you know a standard 2.5 is ****, you have the bill to prove it
They aint the best if you turn up the juice like i did. Sign of the times unfortunately mate. It is a shame subaru didnt put more quality into it because it really is a great engine for a road car. But as Alan Jeffery said, its like the ford cosworths, us owners just cant leave them alone and thats where most of the problems stem from. I cant think of many things these days that are built to last or built with owner modification in mind.
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Old Mar 4, 2013 | 12:21 AM
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Nope DBW feels detatched regardless of how it's mapped it's one of the worst things Subaru did to the Impreza. Never liked mine before or after, left me cold wanting more mechanical feedback
I like mine and do not feel detached at all. I find it very linier and precise. I did once own an Omega 2.5 (BMW lump) and the DBW on that was sh1te.
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Originally Posted by Martin 2010
a standard uk2000 simply isn't a quick car.... a clio 182 would eat one even on back roads as unless set up for it a scoob isn't that great in a back road bashing either imo. get the wallet out and get upgrading
Agree, a standard classic is far from good in the bends. They have good traction but they don't handle well.
Get the wallet out and the whiteline catalogue and it can be transformed though.
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Snets smart allek getting owned,,,,,,AGAIN!

P.s tubby, I have a mx5 track car and a x5 daily what have you got?....oh I forgot you had to give the mitsi back to the finance co
Is the scoob your daily now?
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done two track days in my classic slag and yet to be beat by a clio. currently keeping up with m3's n 911's. It is currently a 2.0L TD04 with uprated fuel pump n a remapped z4 ecu. First time out we kicked the ***** of two newage imprezas (surprised)....I was. Had a day at Oulton where we again whipped round without shame. either i'm an amazing driver or the old slag has something still to offer?? Slightly washy at the front has lead to fitting coil overs. My desire for more power has made me buy and rebuild a TD05 16g turbo. 440 injectors. Remap imminent, then she will eat M3's and close the mouths of most non believers. Anyone who cares to non believe can head out mid april for a blast off!!!
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Originally Posted by bustaMOVEs
Rotfpmsl
Snets smart allek getting owned,,,,,,AGAIN!

P.s tubby, I have a mx5 track car and a x5 daily what have you got?....oh I forgot you had to give the mitsi back to the finance co
Is the scoob your daily now?
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=bustaMOVEs;11012276]Rotfpmsl
Snets smart allek getting owned,,,,,,AGAIN!
Happy to oblige.

He's like a little love struck puppy, no matter how much you kick him, he just keeps coming back,

M's has the same problem, but she keeps him around because he fixes her car a she only has to let him lick her a$$.
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Originally Posted by ditchmyster
Happy to oblige.

He's like a little love struck puppy, no matter how much you kick him, he just keeps coming back,

M's has the same problem, but she keeps him around because he fixes her car a she only has to let him lick her a$$.

x2
poor baiting effort
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Originally Posted by ditchmyster
Well all i can say is when i bought my first WRX in 04 i had the cash to buy the STI and took one out and decided it was too harsh for what i wanted it for, which was work, and around 1000 miles a week.

But to be honest with what i know now and my situation now, If they did a same spec STI wagon, then yes i would have one, i'm not stupid.

I just don't like the way the STI fanboys try and ride the WRX, especially in the face of the facts.

The STI is always going to be the better base for mods because it's stronger, but in the real world it's really not a better daily, for me but i like most would put up with the crashy ride and dodgy gearing because i could mod it to 450 bhp and rag the **** off it at the weekend on track.

At the end of the day i'm a subaru fan and the compromise i have to make is that i need a wagon so i run the next best thing, which by an amusing coincidence happens to be faster than a standard STI.

It just makes me p1ss that those that have an STI can't handle that, and spout all sorts to prove otherwise when the numbers speak for themselves, to be fair i knew i'd hook tubbs, was just hoping to get a few others as well, but they are obviously smarter than he is.

edit to add; i never said it was better, just faster in a given situation.
If you buy the right Sti the WRX is still slower

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Just like the 2L fanboys with the 2.5 cars, oh and the jdm fanboys with the uk cars.
There is a reason for it though isn't there
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Old Mar 4, 2013 | 09:56 AM
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=GAZ2293;11012345]If you buy the right Sti the WRX is still slower
Spec C doesn't count in this discussion, it's a track biased car, just remind us what you paid to be one second in front of my £4k car.
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Exaxtly £8,650 2 years ago

And it's worth more than that now so I've lost nothing...In fact I think I've made a bit

Don't forget it's 3 or 4 secs quicker to 100....Anyway why can't it be included in the discussion it's still an STi, It's not fair nobody lets me play...lol.

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Exaxtly £8,650 2 years ago

And it's worth more than that now so I've lost nothing...In fact I think I've made a bit

Don't forget it's 3 or 4 secs quicker to 100....Anyway why can't it be included in the discussion it's still an STi, It's not fair nobody lets me play...lol.
You can play with yourself
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I love my 215bhp UK 2000 it beats everything on the road ! Ate a Lamborghini the other day

Haha !!!

MOD A CLASSIC AND THEY ARE A BEAST !
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