Guess the toneh's DIY mapping thread
12 January 2013, 05:50 PM
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He was saying its the rate it dropped off ( how It is in the map )
Maybe I did back it off too much , but don't forget things like I don't use a w/b to map and Its all pretty new , so I think it's sensible to have a good run and use it more of a logging / trial run
Rather than trying to be a s/ net hero
Maybe I did back it off too much , but don't forget things like I don't use a w/b to map and Its all pretty new , so I think it's sensible to have a good run and use it more of a logging / trial run
Rather than trying to be a s/ net hero
12 January 2013, 07:57 PM
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Mine's 70bhp more, at less boost, and mines been mapped by no one.
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12 January 2013, 09:10 PM
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I've played it safe , with hindsight too safe
It's gonna seem like I have a problem or summats wrong
It's not ,it's just I ran lower peak boost than before and dropping it off too quick and too low
But now I know I can go more and I know I can use my methods of fuel monitoring and not be paranoid that I might be rich or lean ( which paranoia incidently comes from advice on here)
Yes power was lower than I would like , but my cars safe , still in one piece , still mapped by me
And lives to fight another day ( no doubt with more power )
So regardless of comments on here about low power ect , so be it , but I'll carry on as I have , building up , learning , until I get to where I want to be
It's gonna seem like I have a problem or summats wrong
It's not ,it's just I ran lower peak boost than before and dropping it off too quick and too low
But now I know I can go more and I know I can use my methods of fuel monitoring and not be paranoid that I might be rich or lean ( which paranoia incidently comes from advice on here)
Yes power was lower than I would like , but my cars safe , still in one piece , still mapped by me
And lives to fight another day ( no doubt with more power )
So regardless of comments on here about low power ect , so be it , but I'll carry on as I have , building up , learning , until I get to where I want to be
12 January 2013, 09:23 PM
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As you say tone you live and learn, Just getting into all the logging myself and it dont come quickly to fully understand it, So were your AFR`s were all good in the end or was the power figure due to being a little rich or just boost levels?
PS, My guess is now void as you were running less boost than you said
PS, My guess is now void as you were running less boost than you said
12 January 2013, 09:27 PM
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I wasn't fully confidant that it would be a smooth run , fueling , timing ect
But now I know
After all I think it would be a lot worse reporting back that either ( a ) it's blown up or ( b) run was aborted through running issues
It's gonna be back up there soon
12 January 2013, 09:36 PM
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As you say tone you live and learn, Just getting into all the logging myself and it dont come quickly to fully understand it, So were your AFR`s were all good in the end or was the power figure due to being a little rich or just boost levels?
PS, My guess is now void as you were running less boost than you said
PS, My guess is now void as you were running less boost than you said
Idle is not perfect and the suspect is because I run my O2 post turbo , but is not an issue and has no effect on the run
Last night I had spiking to 24 /25 psi ( too much )most probably a combination of the weather and my map
So this morning I pulled it all back , too far
17 @4000 dropping quickly after finishing at 8/9 towards redline ( yes to low too quick )
Tbh it was a bit of a panic situation and would rather run low than have a cutting car on the day
No other issues to hold it back other than boost settings
12 January 2013, 09:45 PM
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It'll get there , safely , then I won't have to put up with the constant
" anyone can map a car "but " how do you know it won't blow up "
13 January 2013, 08:45 AM
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Well i'm gutted mate, my seat of the pants dyno put you in the early 3's and that was about 6 months ago before your more recent mods.
I have a different take on it than most, which is just like yours, you HAVE mapped it and it's not blown up, which to be fair is what all the nay sayers expected, so thats a major victory in my eyes.
I don't think there is a mapper in the country that would have pushed your car if they saw similar issues, in fact i'm pretty sure they would have done the same.
At the end of the day this modding and mapping mallarkey is not an exact science and each car is different, add to the fray weather conditions on the day and your boost spike problems as mentioned and i think you did the right thing.
No sense trying to be a hero and ending up a zero and laughing stock of snet.
All the great generals in history became so by knowing when to fight and when to retreat, no sense in going to battle when the odds are stacked against you, he who fights and runs away, lives to fight another day.
I'm sure it will all come good for you, and if not i'll be back to give you some pointers on engine building at easter, so don't blow it up before then.
I have a different take on it than most, which is just like yours, you HAVE mapped it and it's not blown up, which to be fair is what all the nay sayers expected, so thats a major victory in my eyes.
I don't think there is a mapper in the country that would have pushed your car if they saw similar issues, in fact i'm pretty sure they would have done the same.
At the end of the day this modding and mapping mallarkey is not an exact science and each car is different, add to the fray weather conditions on the day and your boost spike problems as mentioned and i think you did the right thing.
No sense trying to be a hero and ending up a zero and laughing stock of snet.
All the great generals in history became so by knowing when to fight and when to retreat, no sense in going to battle when the odds are stacked against you, he who fights and runs away, lives to fight another day.
I'm sure it will all come good for you, and if not i'll be back to give you some pointers on engine building at easter, so don't blow it up before then.
13 January 2013, 09:15 AM
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Well i'm gutted mate, my seat of the pants dyno put you in the early 3's and that was about 6 months ago before your more recent mods.
I have a different take on it than most, which is just like yours, you HAVE mapped it and it's not blown up, which to be fair is what all the nay sayers expected, so thats a major victory in my eyes.
I don't think there is a mapper in the country that would have pushed your car if they saw similar issues, in fact i'm pretty sure they would have done the same.
At the end of the day this modding and mapping mallarkey is not an exact science and each car is different, add to the fray weather conditions on the day and your boost spike problems as mentioned and i think you did the right thing.
No sense trying to be a hero and ending up a zero and laughing stock of snet.
All the great generals in history became so by knowing when to fight and when to retreat, no sense in going to battle when the odds are stacked against you, he who fights and runs away, lives to fight another day.
I'm sure it will all come good for you, and if not i'll be back to give you some pointers on engine building at easter, so don't blow it up before then.
I have a different take on it than most, which is just like yours, you HAVE mapped it and it's not blown up, which to be fair is what all the nay sayers expected, so thats a major victory in my eyes.
I don't think there is a mapper in the country that would have pushed your car if they saw similar issues, in fact i'm pretty sure they would have done the same.
At the end of the day this modding and mapping mallarkey is not an exact science and each car is different, add to the fray weather conditions on the day and your boost spike problems as mentioned and i think you did the right thing.
No sense trying to be a hero and ending up a zero and laughing stock of snet.
All the great generals in history became so by knowing when to fight and when to retreat, no sense in going to battle when the odds are stacked against you, he who fights and runs away, lives to fight another day.
I'm sure it will all come good for you, and if not i'll be back to give you some pointers on engine building at easter, so don't blow it up before then.
Had I gone with it as it was I might have run the risk of worse than being down on power , a risk that wasn't worth it
And consider the map I did before the clinic run was literally a 10 Minit fix so I could get a clean run with little issues
I've not had the experience of mapping for 0 degree temps & this is were another aspect I have to learn
Hell there's no shame in a complete novice pulling his car back to make it safe when you've got doubts
I knew without a doubt I would be down as soon as I had done it , but I did and whizzed straight up to the clinic and did a run
Now putting it in perspective and I mean no disrespect to the owner or car at all ( its a nice car )
But there was an Sti on the rollers before mine ( pretty stock )
That made 288 , now that car cost probably 2 or three times more than mine
Mine was mapped in ten minits and made 260 and is gonna cost me nothing at all to get to 288
It's all well and good saying "mines 340 " or that figures low , but folk lose perspective of the equipment I have , the budget I am doing it on and my limited experience
So I'm happy and like its been said , still safe and live to run again
13 January 2013, 10:22 AM
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Nothing will deter me from doing what I'm doing , I've had many negative comments , but As is usually the case I'm taking 2 steps forward 1 step back
I have given myself a target of a year to get to a level were I'm confidant and should be getting good safe results , I'm gettin there I reckon
13 January 2013, 12:16 PM
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Tbh mate I can't see what the point of quoting that
At that point I was hitting 20psi peak dropping to around 14/16 at redline
Now I'm no rocket scientist but I would have a good guess that it would have run more than 260 if I had run at that boost level as opposed to 17 dropping quickly to around 8/9
It's only because on a couple of runs the night previous I was getting spikes to around 25 that I decided to pull it all back
Yes I'm aware the correct thing would be to address the spike issue and not just pull the boost back but I literally had 10 minits ( and I still got to the clinic later than I would have liked)
At that point I was hitting 20psi peak dropping to around 14/16 at redline
Now I'm no rocket scientist but I would have a good guess that it would have run more than 260 if I had run at that boost level as opposed to 17 dropping quickly to around 8/9
It's only because on a couple of runs the night previous I was getting spikes to around 25 that I decided to pull it all back
Yes I'm aware the correct thing would be to address the spike issue and not just pull the boost back but I literally had 10 minits ( and I still got to the clinic later than I would have liked)
13 January 2013, 03:22 PM
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was some good banter up at clinic yesterday was good to meet you can chat tony
its running safe, thats what was important and what my concern was with the whole thing. Just need to figure out whats causing boost to flutter when higher and if you wanna push it any more with that much miles.
was good to meet you can chat tonyits running safe, thats what was important and what my concern was with the whole thing. Just need to figure out whats causing boost to flutter when higher and if you wanna push it any more with that much miles.
13 January 2013, 03:46 PM
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was some good banter up at clinic yesterday was good to meet you can chat tony
its running safe, thats what was important and what my concern was with the whole thing. Just need to figure out whats causing boost to flutter when higher and if you wanna push it any more with that much miles.
was good to meet you can chat tonyits running safe, thats what was important and what my concern was with the whole thing. Just need to figure out whats causing boost to flutter when higher and if you wanna push it any more with that much miles.
Well I've been back on it again today and got it to peak at 19 and dropping to 12 at redline , no cut or spikes all good ,gonna run with that and see how it goes and then maybe start to tweak it up a little in the higher rev range
Oh and enabled my anti lag lol ( not the best thing to run for longevity ) especially when you don't really need it , but it is fun and I love the sound lol
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