Cannon Fodder

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I still can't confirm yet on the ring trip, have you got a set in stone date as I can then set the ball rolling.

I don't 100% believe that any engine when it's pushed substantially beyond standard can be called safe. What I mean by that is that you're always nervous of temps, listening for odd noises etc etc plus some uprated or standard components can let go without notice due to the increased load placed upon them.

It seems to me that all modified car owners seem to be waiting for the next large repair cost to arrive, you can try and safeguard yourself but you know it'll arrive eventually myself included.

The best safeguard is to over specify the components used in order to give yourself some free space in component tolerance / failure, I did that with my pistons and connecting rods but with hindsight I wish I'd gone for a 14mm Cosworth head stud conversion rather than the 11mm ARP head stud conversion that was used.

The 11mm ARP head studs should be ok as there are engines out there on the standard head bolts running just as much power as I'm looking at, but I wish I had more of a safety margin.

Anyway, enough of this hindsight rubbish I guess I might have to show the Evo 7 owner the error of his ways on the Autobahn.

Cannon Fodder

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Thanks I'm certainly looking forward to seeing how it performs on the return trip from Plymouth.

-G-

Yeah. I can see what your saying Ty,
This is what I mean that he's running 'safe'
It's a full 2.1 stroker engine, fully forged, knife edge crank ect.
Full spec head and cams. He's gone totally crazy lol.
So 450hp on that spec is pretty reliable, the hp is restricted to that because of his turbo choice ATM.
Would be good to see a few high hp cars on our trip, so you should come
We're going in July, definitely. No fixed date yet in that month.
I need to check when's the best weekend to avoid any race weekends etc.

Cannon Fodder

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I am a little ignorant of Evo modification but they seem a lot easier to uprate the power on when compared to an Impreza.

One good thing with the Spec C (may also be true for other JDM or UK models) is that the heads and the valve train plus the fuel rails all seem to be capable of handling a lot more power than the factory level.

I did look at the valve train but decided to leave it as is on the advice of Nick from Advanced Automotive, there isn't a massive deal to be made from swapping out the standard parts, again the one thing I wish I had done was to have titanium valve springs and retainers used.

Plus of course the Spec C came with a nitrided cross drilled crankshaft from the factory so there was no point changing it unless I had gone for the 2.1 stroker engine, but again with hindsight and only when the engine build had started did I realise it would have been cheaper to go down the 2.1 route. Ok the individual components in the stroker kit weren't as good as the components were used on the engine rebuild but...

I wish your mate with the 2.1 build all the best, the one thing I would say is that when you get to your goal and get used to the power is that you will always want more, it's the human condition which urges us on with the thought 'How can I improve on what I've got?'.

-G-

Exactly lol

He's already looking into the turbo upgrades lol.

Think he's going down the GT38 route.

Cannon Fodder

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I look forward to him seeing my car pull away into distance.

That's a big turbo, isn't he worried about lag?

-G-

Anti lag don't think he is shy in using it. Lol.

Think he's going for 650-700hp or something crazy.

His last mental car was a 520hp Ibiza Cupra R!

Cannon Fodder

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Anti Lag? It helps but it can't perform miracles.

I suppose it's going to be a trade off between spool and outright power, I'm hoping that with the smaller inlet size to aid spool that I won't lose too much in power output.

I'm going for a methanol boost toI the pump fuel, I'm not sure yet whether to go with a 10% mix or higher.

Infected by sti

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20% you know it makes sense

Also a nice easy 5ltr jerry can in the boot to keep mix consistent, nice round number

-G-

What sort of increases will you see from meth?

How much does that work out £/litre?

Toffee

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I use 20% mix and its about 70ppl, as above keep 5 litres in a pety can and just add 20 lites of Vpower from the pump, nice and easy............ the difference is a lot more than you would think, withouty the meth they feel slow and boring

Cannon Fodder

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You will see some gains but not massive given that the most I will be running is a 20% mix, but it will aid the spool but the methanol map will only really be for pub talk figures plus any track time or a when going on a run.

It works out at just under £1.20 per litre when bought in a 25L container.


http://www.jennychem.com/methanol/80...-methanol.html

Cannon Fodder

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That's a lot cheaper than I thought, although I haven't even looked at pricing yet.

As I understand it the methanol really makes a difference to spool/acceleration, it is really only the ballache of storing it that is the least appealing end of the deal for me.

I've read about not spilling methanol, no skin contact etc but have you had any problems with it?

Silver Scooby Sport

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Nasty stuff from what I've been told I think personally I'd stick to petrol only.

Cannon Fodder

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Simon, I have done a little light research on the use of methanol today (on my lunch break of course) and it's not as bad as it's made out to be.

I think a lot of the problems might be slightly over exaggerated, as petrol is also considered carcinogenic as well when handled, okay methanol can kill you in smaller quantities than petrol if you drink it but I don't think I will be doing that.

At least a methanol fire can be put out with water rather than a petrol fire where the use of water just exacerbates the fire.

Having read the link below methanol actually burns cleaner than petrol so I will also be helping to save the environment at the same time as giving it the beans.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Methano..._disadvantages

Silver Scooby Sport

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Maybe it's just because it frightens me lol

JGlanzaV

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I have a 50ltr drum in my shed, nothing to be worried about lol!

what did make me chuckle is it turns up as "BD Additive" Because couriers wont take methanol so jennychem lable it BD additive so the couriers dont know what it is!

Im not entirely sure what the legalities of that are :O

The Trooper 1815

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When a van/garden shed/garage/car goes up the legalities and potential for death/maiming etc don't get much attention.

But they will!

Cannon Fodder

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To be honest you could say the same about gas cylinders for portable heating etc etc, I think as long as you are sensible over storage and handling then you will be fine.

Silver Scooby Sport

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Ty I was going to do a funny and post a picture up of a man wearing rubber gloves..... Until I had a google image search

DannyBoy007

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You need to do some more reading, it is very nasty stuff.

Not only can it eat the rubber seals on the fuel injectors/fuel pump/fuel system (Ask Daz) It's also absorbed through the skin and It can become fatal at very low levels.

Make sure you wear thick rubber gloves when handling

I had it mapped out of my old Type R as couldn't be bothered messing around with it

prodriverules

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So now I'm back off my holiday and Ty has almost all the parts for this round of upgrades dropped at the workshop it was time to get cracking.
First job was to have a trial fit of the new hard inlet pipe which I have modified some what as no outlets are needed so off they come[welding over holes still to do].
Ty did buy an RCM induction kit to fit inside the engine bay as we had some concerns about the APS filter being to small for 500+ but after a trial fit it become apparent it wasn't going to happen with the APS IC pipes being so big and the position they run in just not allowing room for the RCM filter,I did have a trial fit of the RCM K+N inside the bumper behind the fog light cover but to make/buy a pipe to link up to the APS pipe just wouldn't be cost effective so the decision after a phone call to Martyn at engine tuner was made to just buy a larger cone to go on the APS CAIK kit and then fit a fog light bumper insert and run a cold air feed straight onto the filter head[insert also painted ready]

After that was done I went about removing all the IC pipes along with manifold so the holes can be welded over and then a fresh coat of crinkle red can be applied making them look great again and all as one[the DV has also been removed so I've cut the little pipe off on the IC pipe and that will be welded over as well],next I moved onto removing the oil cooler as it isn't really needed and with Ty wanting to re-fit air conditioning it won't really fit without a lot of work which revealed a few issues with the oil cooler setup!

Upon removing the oil cooler and lines I found that the oil modine had been removed and mocal cooler off take adapter placed directly against the engine block.
Now this has led to the oil seal being crushed on an edge as it's not designed to fit like that but against the modine itself which has a larger flat surface to seat against.
Also the oil cooler lines were routed over top of the exhaust manifold with no protection between them leading to them starting to rub through!,although it hasn't gone through the braid quite yet so still ok for use it would certainly lead to a failure if not attended to now.
Plus with the modine being removed a water pipe has been fitted coming off the block straight onto the hard pipe that runs to the water pump which was also routed by the exhaust manifold and has been rubbing against it almost to the point of bursting!
Lastly it would appear that the modine holding bolt has been modified to mount the mocal adapter ie shortening it which would be ok if the ID size was correct to fit in the centre of the mocal off take but it's to small and as soon as I'd slackened off the bolt there was a lot of movement which again wouldn't allow you to seat it correctly against a surface[it is meant to fit correctly to centralise it].

Anyway after that it was the end of the day but still a long way to go yet with fitting sensors for the toucan,fit wiring for sensors and toucan,fit the ACT clutch,fit the new turbo,fit new down pipe and centre section,fit AFR sensor and gauge along with pod to hold gauge and the list go's on lol.

Few pics from today














Would also like to add the oil cooler issue has now caused Ty some big outlay in the financial department with having to buy a modine+bolt!

Cannon Fodder

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Thanks Ryan, you've obviously been putting in the work today.

As for the issues found oh well never mind, onwards and upwards.

I'll have the oil cooler (with oil lines sorted), RCM induction, Exedy uprated pink box 6 speed clutch and flywheel up for sale soon.

Hammer man

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I was advised that it might be a good idea to have 2 covers for the air intake. This for the dry weather, with matching grill,

but put the sti fog cover on when its very wet. The sti cover is "tweeked" to allow air in but it stops alot of the water hitting the cone.
Just thought you should know, and it gives Ryan more work to do,

Cannon Fodder

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Thanks Cliff, my filter won't be sitting down that low but it will have an air feed via some trunking pointing at the filter cone.

As you can see in Ryan's pics above I am just going to be using a WRX fog lamp panel, I may put the STi fog lamp cover back on it really bad weather.

DYL 4N

Would also like to add the oil cooler issue has now caused Ty some big outlay in the financial department with having to buy a modine+bolt!

I still have the originals but since you have taken it upon yourself to do what you have done, I'm not sure if I can find them now????

That is all I have to say.

Ty I thought you were bigger than this

prodriverules

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That's my comment Dylan,not Ty's.
The point here is that the modine should not have been taken off nor should you leave oil/water pipes resting on the exhaust manifold unprotected!

DYL 4N

So why have you taken it upon yourself to post these comments. When the car left my garage both were protected.

And what's the point in having two oil coolers on a car?

prodriverules

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So your saying the protection has fell off then are you Dylan ?

DYL 4N

How do I know it wasn't removed by someone else when they worked on the car??

Why does a car require two coolers? You didn't answer my question?