did you serious question? i just sticking up for the welsh mate

 

Not quick enough with the edit!

riginally Posted by k9l3 View Post
funny you all laughing at me seen as i am not welsh because i am from london so who is the stupid not mentioning no names banni the fanni. i heard muslims like donkeys is that right . you should know

 

i edited it because it didnt sound good so i done the right thing i still ment it but was not to be offensive just giving some back

 

I'm pretty sure the Welsh would be just a bit embarrassed to be honest with you.

 

that is what i said and i were stating something that was true welsh like sheep muslims like donkeys

 

Israel attacks Iran and then ...?
Tehran does nothing and we all go on as usual?

Iran wouldn't even have to respond immediately. A simple blockage of the Straits of Homuz and the fear of Iran's potental response or that of it's proxies would:
- send the markets into freefall
- send the cost of a barrel of oil spiralling 2 or 3 times overnight.

Within 6-10 days the UK would be close to standstill (like the tanker driver's strike but this time months to recover as stockpiling would be world-wide).

Next I'd expect Tehran to do a deal with North Korea (if it hasn't already) on a device smuggled into the USA in components to put be put together over there by agents already in place. Remember Tehran's been planning too ....

We'd move from here to nightmare in 24 hours.

Tell me how your scenario plays out.

 

Okay i'll be honest with you. It is true. We do like Donkeys.

I mean come on, you would wouldn't you?

http://api.ning.com/files/1FgbTLUe5o...180&height=261

 

i do like donkeys but i preffer horses

 

That's nice looking, to be fair. Do you have any camels?

 

Hey, what's Welshness got to do with it?!! Idiots come in all nationalities.

You're just encouraging him. And don't say I didn't warn you.

 

its silly putting a post up regarding this as it just makes people dispute . the world should come together but i doubt it ever could. i think we should ban religion 1st make everyone the same and that be start . or we can just use water pistols

 

But then we'd fight over oil.... oh, hang on a sec.... okay ignore oil

Race? .... naa ignore that too

I know maybe we'll fight over coffee? ...... naaa thats done too

 

Don’t see why I should come with you when I can still come when I like (though I've heard it’s easier with a sheep! )

And now I’ve got the blue pills I don’t need to use a water pistol filled with milk anymore (though Mrs SouthWalesSam says she preferred the taste of the milk!

 

Cartoons?

 

Damn! This whole thing is scarier than it seems. Considering we are only three days away from anarchy at any moment it is a very scary thought indeed.

 

Nothing like the Fredrick Forsyth book you seem to be quoting in your scenario. And what did Iran do last time they had their nuclear facility hit?

If Isreal/West cuts off the snakes head (the governmanet of Iran with a strategic strike) using Mossad who would know?

Sail around the Cape instead of going through Straits of Hormuz, longer but not a game stopper, how did we manage when Iran and Iraq where at it like ten men? They know better than to block it as they would be ham strung themselves, sanctions are biting and hurting them.

Or pump Scotland dry before they get independence.

North Korea are on their knees and will rattle their sabre's at the South but not anything bigger. Rhetoric and failed missle launches are proof.

The other Arab nations around the Gulf know which side their bread is buttered and will back any threat to them poised by Iran.

Then again, peace could break out and everyone will hug and kiss .

 

5 lies the media keep repeating..

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/omar-b...b_2160239.html

 

Unbiased?

I can see Isreal is losing ground in the sympathy stakes but the likes of the Huffington, well.

 

Not sure that's correct.

I know they bombed a facility in Iraq, but I don't believe they have ever attacked Iran (unless you are referring to some sort of cyber attack?)

Correct me if I'm wrong of course

 

Isreal has burnt up all the natural and justified goodwill, after the horrors the holocaust - in a generation

quite some achievment

 

@Trooper_1815

"Cut off the snake's head", Mossad to the rescue, "pump Scotland dry".

What's your regular read? Boy's Own?

And North Sea oil is light, sweet crude. it's not used to make diesel.

I'm not aware of any previous attack by Israel on Iran, though Israel did launch an attack on Saddam's Iraq back in the mid 80's. It didn't announce it in advance, it just got on with it. Unlike back then, Iran is better armed, had time to get ready and it's facilities are deeper underground. It's proxy network of jihadists is well funded and better deployed for retaliation.

Poor as it is North Korea is one of the world's biggest trader is illlicit arms.

And you underestimate the attraction of an 'Arab bomb' in a Middle & Far East that thinks the West has pushed it around for too long. Iran would have strong support if it sold itself as the nuke-holding Guardian and Protector of the 1.3 billion strong nation of Islam.

In any case, Iran wouldn't even need a real bomb. In the immediate heightened tension 2 or 3 of its proxy groups could simplely announce their suicide squads have planted large devices in 3 US cities on a 24 hour delay. The effect on the US economy would be like the recent hurricane but larger and wider panic as everyone grabs their supplies and guns and point their 4x4s off into the desert.

I've never read any Fredrick Forsyth. I only read non-fiction.

I am analyst and a contrarian. I talk, I listen, I watch and I read. And I try to get behind the headlines and the posturing and I try to think through what I'd do if it were me in that position.

 

And I'm sorry to have to say this but you're not very good at geography.

 

Are you happy for Tehran to realise its nuclear ambitions, Sam?

 

@JTaylor

No. I'm not, but there's really not a lot we can do about it.

But we can try and drag Netanyahu to the negotiating table to settle this festering sore of a 60-year dispute and allow a two state solution.

Our (the West's) failure to do this ramps up tension in the region, breeds hatred, ruins our daily lives on tube and bus and at the airport and gives the likes of Armedinajhad and the fundamentalist, controlling mullahs the credibility they clearly lack with their own people.

 

How do you deal with Hamas?

 

Talk to them. Try the diplomacy route not the tin foil hat route.

 

Have you read their Charter? What do Hamas think about two state?

 

That is what they believe now, but they will change once a political path is finally found.

Let's not forget that Sinn Fein were dead set against power sharing, but today they share power with their former deadly enemies.

 

@JTaylor

Like Shaid says you have to talk to Hamas. They are the elected government in Gaza. And Fatah as well.

People don't want to talk to Hamas because:
"it's their stated AIM to wipe out the state of Israel and push the Israelis into the sea."

Yet they are happy to shake hands with Israel who have wiped out the state of Palestine (it's on the map of the Holy (?) Land in my KJV Bible printed in the 1940s but it ain't there now).

And in building it's southern buffer zone / no man's land Israel has driven 1.8 million Palestinians into a 6 mile wide strip on the edge the sea.

Many on on here keep pointing out that Hamas has talked about doing it but don't seem to have noticed that Israel have actually done it.

And why would Netanyahu consider a two state solution when a real Palestine state could have it's own army and weapons and Israel would lose its carefully consructed wide buffer zones of a neutered Lebanon to the North, an unarmed, chaotic West Bank to the East and the hell hole that's Gaza to the South?

 

Let's remember before Hamas there was a peaceful non confronting regime remember what happened to them.