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Old 03 March 2013, 07:03 PM
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Originally Posted by S204 Glenn
Tony just red this why dodnt you give Bob Rawle a ring

I think Pro-R and subaru purposely did a p-poor job its gutless. :Mad:

so I'd end up getting done elsewhere and lose my warranty.

I'm in two minds what to do really. I'll either keep warranty or whack a decent cossie engine in it

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Originally Posted by T5NYW
I think Pro-R and subaru purposely did a p-poor job its gutless. :Mad:

so I'd end up getting done elsewhere and lose my warranty.
whoops I think someones pea'd Tony ofk

or is that an understatement

Originally Posted by T5NYW
I'm in two minds what to do really. I'll either keep warranty or whack a decent cossie engine in it

Tony
I think the Cossie is the way foward

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Pity though that the usual ***** will be along soon to criticise the new cars cars.
Mainly stuck in their ways 'classic' owners.
i like em all
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Any graphs from a 340R pack or for that matter a remap from a mapper on one of these specific cars?
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Originally Posted by Shaun
Any graphs from a 340R pack or for that matter a remap from a mapper on one of these specific cars?
When I get back ill post one up
Old 15 March 2013, 03:29 PM
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Jesus - you the only one who's bought one and had it on a dyno then!

Any 320R owners..... any owners full stop!?
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Originally Posted by Shaun
Jesus - you the only one who's bought one and had it on a dyno then!

Any 320R owners..... any owners full stop!?
I'm sure I posted these somewhere back in the day.........
Went up to Subaru for the 320 map came away with the 340 one

H&S catback exhaust. (2nd cat still in place)







Slightly lower figures from Powerstation on the day but running winter tyres (if that makes any difference ?)


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Originally Posted by T5NYW
When I get back ill post one up
I'll post it for you, can't spoil the holiday

complete 340R package - 2nd cat delete pipe and backboxes

Old 15 March 2013, 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Don Clark
I'll post it for you, can't spoil the holiday

complete 340R package - 2nd cat delete pipe and backboxes

Thanks Don
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Coming up for 8 weeks and still no sign of my replacement pro-r backboxes

The only way i've managed to get any movement was to email scorpion direct and then get an update.subaru tell me a different story

Parts supposed to be at my dealers next thursday.

Wont be holding my breath for that one.

Thinking of getting the centre section from h&s to go back on with them
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Tony,
Your **** dyno needs recalibrating...... that power/torque and overall graph looks nice. I was expecting it to look a right piece of **** based on what you had said before!!!
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Originally Posted by Shaun
Jesus - you the only one who's bought one and had it on a dyno then!

Any 320R owners..... any owners full stop!?
Posted my 320r graph in Tonys thread a long time back. It was bang on for power and off the sale for hydrocarbons.

340r runs at the limit of the exhaust system. Pat had a go on Hughy"s and it just detonated as soon as boost was turned up and lost power on retard so cat was stopping it breathing and cylinders were over heating.

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Originally Posted by Shaun
Tony,
Your **** dyno needs recalibrating...... that power/torque and overall graph looks nice. I was expecting it to look a right piece of **** based on what you had said before!!!
The 320r pack went great but the 340r sounded netter but seems to lack get up and go. On the dyno it does the figures but on the road it now lacks urgency on low revs.

It was more responsive as the 320r it seemed to get worse during cold weather. Hot weather it was better. Which is an oxymoron really

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Currently thinking about changing my blob wrx and getting one of the new saloon's, a white 2010 reg at a dealers not far from me.

Says it has a 330 prodrive upgrade on it but i thought these were just for the hatches?

Also how bad are the 2.5's for engine failure?
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MY11's can have either 320 or 340 pack, you're right 330 is MY08's.

The maps on the saloons seem to be much safer than on the hatches.

To help convince you.
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Test drove a standard saloon... Impressed tbh. Great chassis. Maybe I'm getting too old. Lol
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Btw... I love the look of them.
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Originally Posted by Shaun
Btw... I love the look of them.
My mate just chopped his black MY11 in for a Coss at crossroads garage

Tony
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Originally Posted by Abx
MY11's can have either 320 or 340 pack, you're right 330 is MY08's.

The maps on the saloons seem to be much safer than on the hatches.

To help convince you.
So could a saloon have a 330 upgrade on it? I asked if there was a certificate or anything with it for the upgrade but the guy said all it had was a badge

They do look nice, needs the big spoiler though
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No, for one the 330 is hatch specific and uses the hatch ppp backbox which is completely different to the saloon, I'd imagine the sales man is just confused and its a 320.

Mine came from a main dealer and had no cert for the 320 so a quick call to IM confirmed all was ok and they sent me a cert in the post.

As for badge, MY11's with power upgrades have no badge to show what it is.
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Ahhh, he said it was some special 330 Colin McRae upgrade. I was a bit like WTF?

Thinking of going to see it on Tuesday so will see what like it is then.

Seen people mention IM on the engine failure thread, who/what are they cause i cant seem to get there site to load
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IM are International Motors the UK authorised importer/dealer network.
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As for Colin McRae special, LOL, the words talking and **** come to mind, please don't tell me it's a main dealer!
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Originally Posted by Abx
As for Colin McRae special, LOL, the words talking and **** come to mind, please don't tell me it's a main dealer!
Ha no it's not in a main dealers.

Being honest im expecting just a standard car or maybe a 320 upgrade
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Originally Posted by T5NYW
I have a theory about the problem but need a ECUTEK mapper input to see if I'm talking squat.

My car went ok in the summer ish. And reckon its definately got worse the colder it's got. Also my fuel consumption is abnormally high. Low down torque is missing. I reckon on a manual choke I'd have left partically on .

Now this is the opposite to older Subarus the always go better in the winter

IIRC Our new cars have a wideband MAF sensor that takes air temperature and allows different amounts of oxygen in same volume of air at different temps.

so the question is when running in open loop mode what temperate change alter? Does it offset the MAF reading so to keep the AFR correct? Is there setting that could be account for over corrective offset.?
From what I know on the ECUTEK side there is a part within the ecu which limits boost in cold weather, I had this talk with Andy F when mapping mine as I said it was **** in cold weather the boost wasn't reaching its peak Unless I hammered it and forced the old top mount intercooler to heat right up. It more like a safety feature designed not to overboost the engine.

Now Andy did wind this feature back a little so I can could have fun in the cooler weather, but still does it all be it not as bad but I think it spoils my car no end. Its bloody amazing when its 9c and above but below that its ****e and swines fuel.

Sooner the syvecs is fitted the better, I hate this ecu.
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Originally Posted by T5NYW
My mate just chopped his black MY11 in for a Coss at crossroads garage

Tony
One careful lady owner hey tony lol

How's kev getting on with the cossy
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Originally Posted by rob84
From what I know on the ECUTEK side there is a part within the ecu which limits boost in cold weather, I had this talk with Andy F when mapping mine as I said it was **** in cold weather the boost wasn't reaching its peak Unless I hammered it and forced the old top mount intercooler to heat right up. It more like a safety feature designed not to overboost the engine.

Now Andy did wind this feature back a little so I can could have fun in the cooler weather, but still does it all be it not as bad but I think it spoils my car no end. Its bloody amazing when its 9c and above but below that its ****e and swines fuel.

Sooner the syvecs is fitted the better, I hate this ecu.
Do mappers tweak the boost vs ambient temp table then?
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Originally Posted by fpan
Do mappers tweak the boost vs ambient temp table then?
My Knowledge on this is limited to be honest, Andy did show me the tables he'd adjusted whilst mapping the car but This is going back 3 years now so my memory isn't that great.


But However what i can tell you from what I recall its to do with measuring intake air temp at the maf & the ecu knowing that the cooler air entering is more dense than that of warmer air so the ecu cuts the boost back as the overall volume is regarded as the same as if the air was 3 deg warmer with an extra few psi of boost if that makes sense.

its only on the 08 DBW cars onwards that have this rather crap feature, I personally bloody hate it.

Example, you can be at say 5c intake and the boost is at 20psi so doesnt seem as urgent. But if you sit in traffic for a couple of mins and allow the engine bay temps to rise a few degrees then the ecu puts the boost back up to 25psi and off like stink it goes until the measured temp drops down and then the boost is taken away again.
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Originally Posted by stevie1982
One careful lady owner hey tony lol

How's kev getting on with the cossy
Not sure as he only just got it before I left on holidays,) long story
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rob,
I'm slightly perplexed with your view.

From what I know all you're talking about is inlet temp compensation tables.... I have them enabled on my JDM MY06 ECU and they are a godsend. Mine have been set to work exactly as they should.... below certain temps (when it get's very cold) I have the ECU pull the boost target down. Without this feature I would (and did) hit the boost cut in sub 5deg environments. The compensation is adjustable so you certainly shouldn't be feeling a power loss.

The "knack" is to set this optimally for the various conditions.

All Andy would need to do is adjust the map again..... it's simple to sort.

I did all of this with Richard Bulmer remotely. I sent him logs and he sent me a new EcuTEK map based on the logs to get this spot on. I know this is not a method that all could be bothered with, but set correctly, this feature is great to have.

The ECU you have is fantastic imo.


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