It was a private sale sadly not from a dealer if it had of been i would of lit a fire under them not happy right now

 

I will give David at api a call tomorrow to see what says about it there are a few options with regards to engine builders in my area but not subaru specialists thanks for the advice

 

what are you thoughts on these people??

http://www.eclipse-performance.com/subaru/70

 

Ah...........That's a bit clearer. Seems it badly needed a service when he got it, but didn't bother! Unless he had a really plausable story, the suspicions start to rack up when he gets rid after only 4 months?
For that mileage, in generally healthy condition, a minimum of 10/40 and possibly 15/40 if using semi-synthetic, 10/40 or 10/50 full synthetic.
If it's up for a full re-build then initially a running-in oil recommended by the builder.

JohnD

 

I just assumed i needed to put 5w-30 in it as thats what i read in the subaru owners manual from what he told me he is getting a newage sti thats why he sold it ive been making phone calls most of the morning some of the prices are shocking just to have the bottom end rebuilt i might just get a recon engine as i will be able to fit that myself and save a load of money on labour charges

 

A re-build by a reputable firm is preferable to a replacement engine - re-con or 2nd hand but as you say, it's not cheap. I'm guessing here but a re-build with uprated parts inc. remove and re-fit would be more than you paid for the car ?

JohnD

 

Yeah alot of the quotes are more than i paid for the car i found a place that will rebuild the bottom end £995 plus £200 for another crank if i take the engine out the same place will take it out and rebuild it for £1500 plus £200 if it needs a crank i have also found another place that supply and fit a recon engine for £1795 and that comes with 6 month unlimited miles warranty really dont know what to do right now still got a few other places to phone up

 

Why not get in touch with someone like scott at scooby spares, you can buy a v7-8 sti bottom end for way less money than what you have quoted, would be covered by warrenty also, and the stock bottom ends are known to be good to circa 400bhp some even more, so you also have the option to slightly increase engine power in the future should you wish! But i imagine its reliability your after more than anything about now

 

Still would need it fitting tho wonder how much he would charge? i have never taken a bottom end apart before i know how to change head gaskets,cam belts,clutches,gearboxes can take engine out etc really dont know what to do really fecked off

 

Don't suppose some of those cheap quotes come via a website similar to this: http://www.reconditioned-engines.co.uk/

If one of those quotes comes via one of those websites or one that looks very similar, avoid. Google heathrow engines and you'll see what I mean. They move about and change their name pretty often. I know someone stung by them. They operate under loads of names and usually come up pretty high when you serach for engine rebuilds in google

There's another rogue bunch operating further North, but the name escapes me.

Just making sure you are aware.

 

If you can remove head gaskets then you shouldn have a prob as if you buy a replacement bottom end it just bolts back together with your heads etc, , you dont strip it down unless thats your thing and want to inspect it you will have the engine out to do the head gaskets anyway

 

No i dont think its not a website like that they are based in Barking, Essex http://www.idealengines.co.uk and the other place that will rebuild is http://www.eclipse-performance.com/subaru/70 like i say im still looking at my options are

 

I used to work in a place called coastal engine services in deal kent until the recession then my old boss sold up he used to regrind cranks etc was never shown how to take a bottom end apart sadly so lack the confidence to do it plus the weather is not ideal to do work on my driveway

 

Thats what im getting at fella, you DONT have to touch it, just take old engine out, undo all ancillaries etc, remove the heads and you are left with a open block exactly as you would see when doing the head gaskets. you have to remove the engine to do the head gaskets anyway so engine will be out in front of you on the bench to start with, once you got it to the stage of just the block, push the old engine to one to 1 side and put the new one in its place and restart to build it back up with heads etc, if you are capable of removing the engine and splitting the heads then im sure you can just swap the block around an rebuild that one

 

I fully understand what your getting at i more than likely could do it that way makes perfect sense and would keep the costs down thing is its having the time to do it would be a weekend job took a day off work to get quotes today and at this time of year the weather is against me to strip it on my driveway bloody annoying not only that my wife and kids wouldnt see much of me

 

Drain the oil, Drop the sump, Look in the bottom of the sump for bits of bearing, Like this....



Then remove the other bits until you are left with this, Then check for movement in the rods/crank,

Here is one i fooked a couple of years back, Going cheap if anyone wants it, I kept if for sentimental reasons

Clicky clicky

 

what ever you do ,DONT get one from IDEAL ENGINES ,there the same crooks as smr engines etc. search for smr/ideal engines and you will get at least a dozen sad peoples threads

including https://www.scoobynet.com/scoobynet-...l-engines.html

 

Holly Sh*t thanks for warning me about them really appreciate it that is rather shocking how the hell are they still trading

 

that looks bad no doubt mine is like that

 

It was terminal for that engine, Dropped an full STI lump in it in the end but the car met a very big tree one day and that was that, I stripped it and moved on after 5 years modding it,,

There is a guy on here selling an STI shortblock on here for £650, Just need to swap your heads on to it and get the map checked/tweeked, It may be a bit unknown buying a 2nd hand shortblock but by far the cheapest option if its a good STI one

 

To be honest mate, you have three options

1) Get it rebuilt properly
2) Get a second hand engine from a specialist who can say something valid about its condition
3) if you're not keen on doing either because it would cost near the value of the car then I'd get out now and sell the car as a rolling shell and at least recoup some of your losses rather than risk paying yet more on the car and being in the same position x months down the line.

Do it properly or cut your losses; too easy to get burned in this game by going half measures (as you're finding out) e.g. I read something about regrinding cranks in the above batch of posts, that's one thing you absolutely definitely not do on a Subaru engine.

 

4) Do the work yourself - think of the pleasure it would give you, as well as a fraction of the costs of 1) 2) and 3) above.