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Old 30 September 2012, 06:16 PM
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Really pi**ed off right now bought my 03 wrx wagon on thursday done few hundred miles since then in it looked through the service history noticed that the oil hadnt been changed for over 15000 miles bought some shell helix hx7 af 5w-30 as that it what its always used since then it developed a strange noise looked on the net seen videos on youtube im 95% sure it has spun a bearing not a happy chap
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big end bearing??
Old 30 September 2012, 06:21 PM
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Not to sure about which bearing on the crank matbe i think could be wrong im no good with bottom ends
Old 30 September 2012, 06:47 PM
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Uh Oh another oil change leads to bottom end failure thread
Old 30 September 2012, 06:57 PM
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Originally Posted by markietay
Uh Oh another oil change leads to bottom end failure thread
yup take the crank shaft sensor off and build some pressure up before starting
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Biggest problem would be if the OP didn't fill the filter with oil and keep topping up over about 10 mins. Many don't seem to realise you need to do that.

OP- you need to get it to a specialist - if it is a big end, prepare to part with some serious cash to put it right!

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Old 30 September 2012, 07:06 PM
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Crank Sensor Off - BOLLOX!!!

I carried out 15 Services on mine ...... never once carried out an **** Oil Change! EVER!

And, Dealers do NOT either ....
Old 30 September 2012, 07:10 PM
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https://www.scoobynet.com/scoobynet-...r-stories.html

Says it all ......
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Originally Posted by pslewis
pete the sarcastic nature of my post didnt come across in text (notice thumb smiley at end), i agree with you but was getting in before someone else said it


although i do pre fill the filter
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Fact: That engine was on it last legs. Regardless of oil change procedure it would have died....just it may have lasted a couple months or so longer.

What you need to find out is why it was on its last legs.

For example: Was it low on oil before you drained it; if it was that may lead to a clue.

Its so unbelivably common for owners of cars to never bother to check the oil levels between services, I suspect this has probably happened to this engine at some point in its past. Especially when knowing it was overdue an oil change points to a prior owner who is somewhat negligent/ignorant when it comes to maintaining their car.

*ps I've never bothered to prefill the oil filter or remove the crank sensor. My engine never blew up...oil was changed every six months on the dot too.

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I always fill the oil filter before putting it on have done with every car ive had over the years so angry right now saved up my hard earned money to buy it then a simple oil change has led to this no doubt a bottom end rebuild or a recon engine
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If the Oil Change killed the engine, then the Oil Change isn't to blame ... if that makes sense?

The Engine was about to fail when you bought it - return it and get your money back.
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I had my car 7 weeks and big end bearing let go, Cost £3300 to put right but thats how it is. I took it on the chin and rebuilt it.
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Yeah i cant see how an oil change could effect it like that but hey i never had a subaru before i have changed the oil and filter and rocker cover gaskets on my mates sti i know how to change head gaskets,cam belts,clutches,gearboxes can take engine out etc but i have never taken a bottom end apart before i have been in contact with the old owner about it (sold as seen) its got fsh up 98651 miles from what i can tell that was the last time the oil was changed it has 117703 miles on the clock i checked everything over before i bought it off him as well all i could find was a part worn tyre no way id pay £3300 to fix it could get a recon engine for that kinda money just really pi**ed off about it
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Originally Posted by pslewis
Crank Sensor Off - BOLLOX!!!

I carried out 15 Services on mine ...... never once carried out an **** Oil Change! EVER!

And, Dealers do NOT either ....
Well they do, my nearest dealer told me to do it when i went in and bought oil filter/plugs

Dont see the what the issue is with doing it?
Granted it might not have killed the OP car but its good practice
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You have just been very unlucky then ..... and I agree with you, £3300 is just stupid money for a big end repair.
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Originally Posted by djwa
Yeah i cant see how an oil change could effect it like that but hey i never had a subaru before i have changed the oil and filter and rocker cover gaskets on my mates sti i know how to change head gaskets,cam belts,clutches,gearboxes can take engine out etc but i have never taken a bottom end apart before i have been in contact with the old owner about it (sold as seen) its got fsh up 98651 miles from what i can tell that was the last time the oil was changed it has 117703 miles on the clock i checked everything over before i bought it off him as well all i could find was a part worn tyre no way id pay £3300 to fix it could get a recon engine for that kinda money just really pi**ed off about it
Be careful buying 'recon' engines. many are not what they seem
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Originally Posted by topshot
Well they do, my nearest dealer told me to do it when i went in and bought oil filter/plugs

Dont see the what the issue is with doing it?
Granted it might not have killed the OP car but its good practice


And what Mickey Mouse dealer would that be!!

It's one of the biggest load of bollox on these pages, disconnect the Crank Sensor for a normal Oil Change ....... if that was needed then you should do it every morning when the oil has drained into the sump - do you do that? Nah ... didn't think so!!

I could, just about, agree that it may have some justification if the engine had been rebuilt ....... but ONLY then!
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Originally Posted by pslewis


And what Mickey Mouse dealer would that be!!

It's one of the biggest load of bollox on these pages, disconnect the Crank Sensor for a normal Oil Change ....... if that was needed then you should do it every morning when the oil has drained into the sump - do you do that? Nah ... didn't think so!!

I could, just about, agree that it may have some justification if the engine had been rebuilt ....... but ONLY then!
yay you got a bite at last pete.

commence trolling......................
Old 30 September 2012, 09:22 PM
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Yeah i dont seem to have much luck these days i might just take the engine out take off all the ancillaries etc and take it to some one to rebuild it either that or a recon engine i found a place that does them for £1500 with 6 months warranty still rather fecked off about it only bought it on thursday standard car apart from cruise control a prodrive back box and a quick realise tow bar i will be selling the tow bar and back box at some point
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Originally Posted by pslewis
You have just been very unlucky then ..... and I agree with you, £3300 is just stupid money for a big end repair.


Stupid money or not thats the going rate in the real world, Mine spun a bearing and started knocking on cylinder 3, Needed new crank, rods and bearings.

You then have gaskets, fluids and labour....

Cant see how you can repair correctly on the cheap???
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I know its not going to be a cheap fix Thats the thing mine is not knocking this is what its sounds like but not as noisey

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Originally Posted by djwa
I know its not going to be a cheap fix Thats the thing mine is not knocking this is what its sounds like but not as noisey

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92xVt...feature=g-hist
fcked mate, bottom end
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This is what i found when i did a search to find out what the noise was mine is not as loud youtube sealed my fate wonder how much for it to be rebuild ?
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Originally Posted by djwa
This is what i found when i did a search to find out what the noise was mine is not as loud youtube sealed my fate wonder how much for it to be rebuild ?
Suggest you have a word with David at Api Impreza mate.
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What part of the country is he from? i live near white cliffs of dover in kent
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Originally Posted by djwa
Yeah i cant see how an oil change could effect it like that but hey i never had a subaru before i have changed the oil and filter and rocker cover gaskets on my mates sti i know how to change head gaskets,cam belts,clutches,gearboxes can take engine out etc but i have never taken a bottom end apart before i have been in contact with the old owner about it (sold as seen) its got fsh up 98651 miles from what i can tell that was the last time the oil was changed it has 117703 miles on the clock i checked everything over before i bought it off him as well all i could find was a part worn tyre no way id pay £3300 to fix it could get a recon engine for that kinda money just really pi**ed off about it
In your other thread you said it hadn't been changed for 4 months? with 19,052 miles that's 1,100 miles a week! Was he a rep of some kind?
I certainly wouldn't be putting a 5/30 oil in a Subaru with nearly 118,000 miles on it!

JohnD

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Originally Posted by djwa
What part of the country is he from? i live near white cliffs of dover in kent
http://www.apiimpreza.com/index.php

Warwickshire mate, but they would collect a car for engine work like that (as will other specialists too). I've always used them for any serious tinkering with my car and when I wanted a forged build.

A bit of advice: don't chose the specialist based on location or price alone. This is going to cost serious money to fix properly, so you need somewhere that does the job right first time!

The fact that somewhere was local and cheap will be of little consolation if you subsequently have to get the car sent further afield and more expensive to get the job done properly!

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was it a private sale or dealer? if dealer then sold as seen means nothing.

Also new 2.5 bottom end used to be something like £1700 (dont know current costs though)

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JohnD in that thread that was a rough estimate of how many miles it had done since it had its oil changed i checked it today to find out how many it had done i dont know what job or how many miles a week he was doing in it he did tell me he hadnt changed the oil since he had it which was around 4 or more months so what oil what you be using then?


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