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Old 13 July 2012, 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by fivetide
You definately will.

Overlooking the spelling please justify. Definitely is a strong word (and one you can't justify, btw).
Old 13 July 2012, 03:37 PM
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I think it should not be done unless required for medical reasons.

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Old 13 July 2012, 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Geezer
So you are in no position whatsoever to comment on whether it increases or decreases sensitivity!

If you had said 25, or even 15, maybe.

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You really need to read the whole thread before commenting!!

Well obviously at 5 I had no idea if it was sensitive or not...
Old 13 July 2012, 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Einstein RA
It's more hygienic, looks & smells better. Uncircumcised men can produce a lot of smegma. You need to clean under the foreskin daily to prevent this. The downside is that you MAY lose some sensitivity.
Hygienic? Debatale. It's evolved for a reason. to do with protecting the glans.

Looks and smells better? Personal preference for asthetics, As for smells, if you are wearing pants it's fairly sweaty and unpleasant down there by the end of the day anyway.

Ok, you can produce smegma, but speaking from personal experience, I don't, what can I say? It's not exactly a ballache to pull the old polo neck back in the shower and give it a quick once over!

I can't say for sensitivity as I still have mine, but I would imagine that the inevitable hardening of the glans would lead to insensitivity.

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Why did you post this? What relevance is it to this thread?
Old 13 July 2012, 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Wurzel
You really need to read the whole thread before commenting!!
Apologies, I really couldn't be bothered reading the whole thing. It just a bit of light entertainment during a very busy day!

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Old 13 July 2012, 03:42 PM
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inevitable

Everyone using strong words today. Please justify. Or is this actually just an assumption?
Old 13 July 2012, 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Geezer
Apologies, I really couldn't be bothered reading the whole thing. It just a bit of light entertainment during a very busy day!

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yep, it is amazing the topics and conversations you can have with a bunch of complete strangers
Old 13 July 2012, 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Dedrater
Why did you post this? What relevance is it to this thread?
Either you haven't read it or your comprehension is lacking.
Old 13 July 2012, 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by TelBoy
Everyone using strong words today. Please justify. Or is this actually just an assumption?
You're on form today Tel.
Old 13 July 2012, 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by TelBoy
Everyone using strong words today. Please justify. Or is this actually just an assumption?
Well, as a test, leave your old fella uncovered with your foresking pulled back for a while, it starts to dry an wrinkle. It's also very sensitive to abrasion, if you put it back in your pants for example. I would say that it is indeed an inevitablilty that it would thick/harden.

I had friend who had it done at 14 for medical reasons, and he definately felt that it was not a good thing. Well, he could **** for longer as he had less sensitivity, so I suppose you could argue it was bonus!

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Originally Posted by Einstein RA
Either you haven't read it or your comprehension is lacking.
I read it, sounds like the lad has a medical problem, circumcision for such reasons is completely justifiable.

Your comprehension is lacking if you think it is right to mutilate an innocent child.
Old 13 July 2012, 03:57 PM
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There must be a good "Helmut" gag in here somewhere.

What I want to know is that if the jewish community doesnt abide by this rule and continues to circumsise its baby boys, what happens ?

A/ Nothing

B/ Penalties for those concerned

C/ Round the whole bloody lot of them up and ship them off to a holiday camp for a Zyklon B shower....

I can see the point but I think the Germans should perhaps leave that one alone and leave it to another country to instigate, then the EU and join in at that point, Circumcision is pretty barbaric but it is a strong religous practice for the Jewish community and really the Germans should avoid being seen to single out Judaism, that doesnt give cart blanche for the Jewish community to do what they want but I dont think they were causing an issue, it is only seventy or so years since Germany was exerminating Jewish people as a matter of course. There are still many people alive that exerperienced the holocaust first hand and this will open very deep, old wounds.

basically Germany, see your point but just dont go there, not saying you want to start Holocaust 2 but a few Jewish foreskins are not worth looking like you are picking on them, you wont win, never underestimate religous observance amongst the faithful, even if it involves hacking a piece of your **** off.
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Originally Posted by J4CKO
There must be a good "Helmut" gag in here somewhere.

What I want to know is that if the jewish community doesnt abide by this rule and continues to circumsise its baby boys, what happens ?

A/ Nothing

B/ Penalties for those concerned

C/ Round the whole bloody lot of them up and ship them off to a holiday camp for a Zyklon B shower....

I can see the point but I think the Germans should perhaps leave that one alone and leave it to another country to instigate, then the EU and join in at that point, Circumcision is pretty barbaric but it is a strong religous practice for the Jewish community and really the Germans should avoid being seen to single out Judaism, that doesnt give cart blanche for the Jewish community to do what they want but I dont think they were causing an issue, it is only seventy or so years since Germany was exerminating Jewish people as a matter of course. There are still many people alive that exerperienced the holocaust first hand and this will open very deep, old wounds.

basically Germany, see your point but just dont go there, not saying you want to start Holocaust 2 but a few Jewish foreskins are not worth looking like you are picking on them, you wont win, never underestimate religous observance amongst the faithful, even if it involves hacking a piece of your **** off.
If you read the news article J4CKO you will see it is targeted at Muslims and Islam with Jews as collateral damage.
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Originally Posted by Geezer
Well, as a test, leave your old fella uncovered with your foresking pulled back for a while, it starts to dry an wrinkle. It's also very sensitive to abrasion, if you put it back in your pants for example. I would say that it is indeed an inevitablilty that it would thick/harden.

I had friend who had it done at 14 for medical reasons, and he definately felt that it was not a good thing. Well, he could **** for longer as he had less sensitivity, so I suppose you could argue it was bonus!

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Not the most robust medical analysis, Geezer

Circumcision can result in loss of sensitivity, but usually it doesn't. Nor does it result in drying, wrinkling, hardening or any other side effect.

The biggest problem with it (to me) is that it's often done in the name of religion, and that's about as indefensible as you can get, in my opinion. Almost definitely
Old 13 July 2012, 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted by TelBoy
Overlooking the spelling please justify. Definitely is a strong word (and one you can't justify, btw).
Can't is a strong word and also not justifiable.

What a sad case picking up on a slight typo too.

It is a fact though. I know for a fact that if I was to rub the end of the old chap with a piece of cotton it would be sore and uncomfortable. Given that's what happens every day to those who have had this done I'm on safe ground.

Thing is, those who have had it done will never know. Those of us who haven't know just how sensitive it really is.

Sorry someone cut the end of your **** off.

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Originally Posted by Dedrater
I read it, sounds like the lad has a medical problem, circumcision for such reasons is completely justifiable.

Your comprehension is lacking if you think it is right to mutilate an innocent child.
Where have I stated I condone mutilating innocent children?!

If failure to share your OPINION renders me mistaken then consider me mistaken.

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Looks like Ze Germans are trying to get rid of the Jews again
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**** me is that the extent of your "evidence" as to why there is "definitely" a lack of sensitivity, 5t? Please make it stop
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Originally Posted by TelBoy
**** me is that the extent of your "evidence" as to why there is "definitely" a lack of sensitivity, 5t? Please make it stop
**** me. You've completely reversed my entire life experience with that compelling argument.



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Originally Posted by Einstein RA
Where have I stated I condone mutilating innocent children?!
So you agree with the ban then? Circumcision on children should be against the law.
Old 13 July 2012, 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by fivetide
**** me. You've completely reversed my entire life experience with that compelling argument.



5t.
But seriously, do you not see how completely stupid you're being by stating something about a procedure you know precisely ****-all about? How about that some people on here have forgotten more medical knowledge than you've ever known, and you wonder why people get irked when no-marks make grandiose statements that have precisely no validity whatsoever?
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Originally Posted by Dedrater
So you agree with the ban then? Circumcision on children should be against the law.
No I don't. Circumcision is not mutilation (not in boys anyway). It has proven benefits and as many will testify does not render the ***** an insensitive and hardened appendage Plus the ladies prefer it.
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Originally Posted by Einstein RA
No I don't. Circumcision is not mutilation (not in boys anyway). It has proven benefits and as many will testify does not render the ***** an insensitive and hardened appendage Plus the ladies prefer it.
Yes, it is mutilation, look up the definition.

It has no proven benefits, except for medical reasons and it's visual aspect, purely comes down to personal preference.

There is no middle ground here, you are either barbaric and primitive in your thinking or you are not.
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Originally Posted by Dedrater
Why did you post this? What relevance is it to this thread?
It looks like it was posted to suggest that circumcision is better for you than being uncircumcised.
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Originally Posted by Dedrater
Yes, it is mutilation, look up the definition.

It has no proven benefits, except for medical reasons and it's visual aspect, purely comes down to personal preference.

There is no middle ground here, you are either barbaric and primitive in your thinking or you are not.
I'm going to quote Telboy as he summed it up quite succintly. Good day to you sir!

But seriously, do you not see how completely stupid you're being by stating something about a procedure you know precisely ****-all about? How about that some people on here have forgotten more medical knowledge than you've ever known, and you wonder why people get irked when no-marks make grandiose statements that have precisely no validity whatsoever?
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Originally Posted by TelBoy
Look, as I've had the end of my old man taken off I'd argue black is white trying to convince myself I've never missed out. Of course I have no way of actually knowing and even if I did, I'd stick my head in the sand and tell myself the same thing. A simple look over this thread would tell me that I'm wrong and while I've spent my afternoon abusing others, I've not produced any of this marvellous evidence to back up my own claims either. Perhaps I should just accept that some people know more about this than the lies I tell myself or would tell a quack who tried to test it, I mean, I don't want to appear less manly do I?

Fixed for Tel and EinstienRA. Apologies for any typos.

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Originally Posted by Einstein RA
I'm going to quote Telboy as he summed it up quite succintly. Good day to you sir!
Yes, you are going to quote him because you do not have a sufficient answer of your own, you agree with a practice which is barbaric and potential damaging to that child later on in life.

Tel has said he doesn't agree with it on religious grounds and i have already said i do agree with it (obviously) on medical grounds.
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Not a bad effort on the spelling front i'll admit. 5t, read some books, mate. You know as well as i do that you've done no research, nor know anybody medical who could enlighten you. If that's a reason to write the ****e above, so be it.
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I don't need someone to 'enlighten me' about my own wedding tackle thanks.

Perhaps you should try producing some of this evidence you claim to know so much about because at the moment you've delivered the square root of **** all apart from pedantry and insults

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