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Old 16 July 2012, 02:33 PM
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Well, we all know its not
Old 16 July 2012, 05:21 PM
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In my experience,if it breaks they fix it,they replaced the engine in my P1 no quibble.

The Subaru dealer I use,Keith Price Abergavenny are fabulous,im so glad to be back with them.

As for the Cossie knockers...this is my 4th new scoobie..I can only compare it to the 3 ive owned,99turbo, P1 wr1.... the Cosworth WILL annihilate them for fun...different league in every respect.my opinion, Its also nice not to have to worry about modding it,which means its easier to insure. For anyone interested,my best quote was £337 off esure,tho I paid a little more and went with tesco
Old 16 July 2012, 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted by belliott69
Really nice looking cossie Busterbulldog, I really like them and never quite sure why so many people knock them when they seem to be good cars.
Thank you I think the price caused a lot of the knocking...£50k..for a scooby ..it is a lot...I learnt my lesson with the special editions years ago...if you want them 1st you gotta pay...if you wait theres always a few spare ones kicking about at much more palatable prices.
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Originally Posted by urban
Yeah, kind of.
between sport and sport#, its really just better throttle response I'd say
Old 16 July 2012, 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Busterbulldog
In my experience,if it breaks they fix it,they replaced the engine in my P1 no quibble.

The Subaru dealer I use,Keith Price Abergavenny are fabulous,im so glad to be back with them.

As for the Cossie knockers...this is my 4th new scoobie..I can only compare it to the 3 ive owned,99turbo, P1 wr1.... the Cosworth WILL annihilate them for fun...different league in every respect.my opinion, Its also nice not to have to worry about modding it,which means its easier to insure. For anyone interested,my best quote was £337 off esure,tho I paid a little more and went with tesco
Don't be so sure! theirs a lot of people on here with hatch 2.5's who have been refused engine replacements after ringland failure. When Evo magazine wanted to use the cosworth press car to pitch it against the R205 it was of road due to the engine going poop. Tried to source one else where, but there were no owners with any and the dealers were reluctant.

They also tried to sell the remaining cars to Subaru Singapore, but Cosworth would not warrant the engines so Subaru Singapore told them to
Very surprising they wouldn't warrant there own work.

Am pretty sure it's Cosworth who are warranting the engines hence the original price tag of 55k.

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Old 16 July 2012, 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Busterbulldog
the power options/map button...250/330/411 bhp according to salesman sports sharp is the higher one.

411 ??? these cars were only ever 395 bhp or 400ps
the si drive isnt a map button on the cosworth as far as I'm aware, its all to do with throttle sensitivity same as the hatch in std or 330's trim
Old 16 July 2012, 06:36 PM
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Whats ringland failure? The car is warranted by Subaru so I cant see the problem.
Old 16 July 2012, 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by rob84
411 ??? these cars were only ever 395 bhp or 400ps
the si drive isnt a map button on the cosworth as far as I'm aware, its all to do with throttle sensitivity same as the hatch in std or 330's trim
as a minimum apparantly...only hearsay off dealer,an independent test 411.4 ...any owners been on the dyno?
Old 16 July 2012, 06:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Busterbulldog
Whats ringland failure? The car is warranted by Subaru so I cant see the problem.
I wouldn't worry about that. Your car comes with forged pistons as standard.
Old 16 July 2012, 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted by chopperman
That article is over 2 years old. My bet is you could buy one for far less now.
Someone had to buy it brand new! 2nd hand may be a better proposition albeit that it'll still reduce in value vs the original £50k I guess so is probably relatively expensive vs competitors ...

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Old 16 July 2012, 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Terminator X
Someone had to buy it brand new! 2nd hand may be a better proposition albeit that it'll still reduce in value vs the original £50k I guess so is probably relatively expensive vs competitors ...

TX.
I bought brand new - i'm not going to discuss pricing on here, but I was happy with the price I paid, verses the car I have and the service I receive from the dealer.

I accept that you could build a stunning car for that kind of price if modding was your thing - I looked at a heavily modded STI saloon before buying the Cosworth. It was about cheaper, and probably as quick, and it did have a different turbo that reduced the lag, so a great fun car to drive. However, residuals would have been worse, insurance was higher, and the warranty was limited, so the Cosworth was an all round better bet. Actually, price wise, the modded car would not have been far off - I guess once you are changing the pistons, suspension, turbo, exhaust, wheels, interior, it has to all add up.....so I got a package deal rather than the build your own, and the Cosworth name with it.

The Cosworth as a car makers limited edition worked for me - this is my daily drive, so warranty is important, so 60K/3 years was what I needed, and is what i got. They must have faith in the car to honour that, and I know that it will be honoured. I have to keep my side - servicing intervals are 6K, and I keep a close eye on the oil levels and general condition of the car.

This is only my 2nd Impreza (actually the first one was a WRX and was my wifes!!), but its my 14th Subaru counting what we run at work, so I know that Crossroads provides the service and backup I need because they always do.

I'm not sure what else out there seriously touches the Cosworth - AWD with blistering performance but with some practicality, and that does not have you down as a totally flash git!....aside from modding an STI, what would you have looked at as an alternative?
Old 16 July 2012, 07:31 PM
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I'm not knocking it Mikey as it sounds a great car, key thing for me though is that a Jap hatch + a few mods will give 400+ hp so purely imho £50k seems a premium too far.

TX.

Edit - alternative:

http://beta.pistonheads.com/classifi...ormance/259369

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Old 16 July 2012, 07:33 PM
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Like most things, you want the badge you pay the price!
Old 16 July 2012, 07:51 PM
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........................COSshesWORTH it
Old 16 July 2012, 07:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Busterbulldog
........................COSshesWORTH it
Old 16 July 2012, 08:17 PM
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Gorgeous cars!

I'd be interested to see a comparison with something like a GTR or 911 Turbo though, as if i had nearly £50k, I'd opt for one of those instead.

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But it would be 2nd hand..used...preowned ...pre abused ...it makes a difference
Old 16 July 2012, 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Terminator X
I'm not knocking it Mikey as it sounds a great car, key thing for me though is that a Jap hatch + a few mods will give 400+ hp so purely imho £50k seems a premium too far.

TX.

Edit - alternative:

http://beta.pistonheads.com/classifi...ormance/259369
agree
Or even a jdm r205 with a few mods 400+ easy at less than half the price and strong reliable engines

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Old 16 July 2012, 08:34 PM
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I do like the cosworth impreza, they look great , over priced for what is, in my opinion,
most people who bought one seem pleased with them ,

seen this thread below , is this the same red car above ?

https://www.scoobynet.com/was-it-you...-cosworth.html
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nope
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Originally Posted by Terminator X
I'm not knocking it Mikey as it sounds a great car, key thing for me though is that a Jap hatch + a few mods will give 400+ hp so purely imho £50k seems a premium too far.

TX.

Edit - alternative:

http://beta.pistonheads.com/classifi...ormance/259369
I know - I did not mean it to sound defensive !!!!the price point is too high, yes I would agree. I think you can assume I negotiated a deal I was happy with - but I'm not going to go further than that.

Although I get bored of others who don't own one and don't live with one and have probably never even driven one saying its a crap car!! - but I guess I better get used to Internet forums!!

What I was interested in was what others might feel to be a better car for the money, other than buying and modding a uk or jap import. A gtr was interesting but more money still and I'd never getvthe dog in that !! 911 no chance new.

Audi s4 but with all the bits on similar price, and given that Audi are the new BMW, not for me (and the local dealer is terrible!!!) rs6 way too rich - lotus evora was interesting but not practical enough....
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Originally Posted by Busterbulldog
But it would be 2nd hand..used...preowned ...pre abused ...it makes a difference
Quite so
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Originally Posted by mikeyw
I know - I did not mean it to sound defensive !!!!the price point is too high, yes I would agree. I think you can assume I negotiated a deal I was happy with - but I'm not going to go further than that.

Although I get bored of others who don't own one and don't live with one and have probably never even driven one saying its a crap car!! - but I guess I better get used to Internet forums!!

What I was interested in was what others might feel to be a better car for the money, other than buying and modding a uk or jap import. A gtr was interesting but more money still and I'd never getvthe dog in that !! 911 no chance new.

Audi s4 but with all the bits on similar price, and given that Audi are the new BMW, not for me (and the local dealer is terrible!!!) rs6 way too rich - lotus evora was interesting but not practical enough....
Jaguar xfr and still get dog in for half the price
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Originally Posted by mikeyw
I know - I did not mean it to sound defensive !!!!the price point is too high, yes I would agree. I think you can assume I negotiated a deal I was happy with - but I'm not going to go further than that.

Although I get bored of others who don't own one and don't live with one and have probably never even driven one saying its a crap car!! - but I guess I better get used to Internet forums!!

What I was interested in was what others might feel to be a better car for the money, other than buying and modding a uk or jap import. A gtr was interesting but more money still and I'd never getvthe dog in that !! 911 no chance new.

Audi s4 but with all the bits on similar price, and given that Audi are the new BMW, not for me (and the local dealer is terrible!!!) rs6 way too rich - lotus evora was interesting but not practical enough....
Mines just bought as a toy,i need no practicality,if i need practical i take the tranny,comfort the Str,wet weather the freelander....and if its a long day ..the motorhome
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Is the question what else can you buy for 40k? I am on third new Subaru but I have to say that 40k is not in their sweetspot as a brand. No Subaru retails for a price anyway near an M BMW or RS Audi or GTR in their largest markets - Japan and US.

It is not to say the CS is a bad car - I in fact rate it - but I would never justify the purchase on value for money. M beemers, ANGs, etc are all capable cars that can be had very nearly new for that money. The Corvette C6 is there, too, and all the one year old GTRs (I owned one) and porkers. All of the above come with free weaping skirt, so I assume you are married - otherwise I would be jumping off a balcony right now if I were you.

The CS is s flyer of a Sube but you are a brave man to follow through front up the cash. Kudos to you for that.
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Originally Posted by bustaMOVEs
Jaguar xfr and still get dog in for half the price
63k not exactly half the price !!
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£56k new!



£52k new!



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Old 16 July 2012, 10:53 PM
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thats a car for a man in a suit...i have dirty hands and only wear my suit when theres a funeral or wedding
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Originally Posted by rexguy
Is the question what else can you buy for 40k? I am on third new Subaru but I have to say that 40k is not in their sweetspot as a brand. No Subaru retails for a price anyway near an M BMW or RS Audi or GTR in their largest markets - Japan and US.

It is not to say the CS is a bad car - I in fact rate it - but I would never justify the purchase on value for money. M beemers, ANGs, etc are all capable cars that can be had very nearly new for that money. The Corvette C6 is there, too, and all the one year old GTRs (I owned one) and porkers. All of the above come with free weaping skirt, so I assume you are married - otherwise I would be jumping off a balcony right now if I were you.

The CS is s flyer of a Sube but you are a brave man to follow through front up the cash. Kudos to you for that.
Ive got a Jap performance mag i bought about a year ago hiding in my room somewhere and there was a sprint which the Cossie took part in, it beat the Nissan GT-R, V8 Ariel Atom, Focus RS500 and was only beaten by some posh lamborghini Supperleggera in the dry, then the Cossie went out in the wet and beat the Lambo's dry lap time.

Quite impressive, but i can't help but think what Immy's 400bhp R205 would do to the above mentioned.

I'll dig the magazine out and qoute exactly.

My point is for that kind of performance £50k is good.
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Originally Posted by mikeyw
63k not exactly half the price !!
1yr old and they are £25k so worth the punt IMO, and beat the m5 in a road test

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