http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2byD0ytOWwY

 

If you're saying people shouldnt have to defend being Gay, then by defintion,you don't agree with the premise that they should. I.e. it should just be accepted and not challenged. No?

There are certain thing that are beyond question. If you are Gay, then you are gay, what can you challenge?, what is there not to accept?

 

No, what he means is that we don't all have to like it.
We may tolerate it, but that's as far as it goes. But yet, if we all don't jump up and down proclaiming how great it is that somebody is gay, we are branded homophobic, racist biggots.
Quite frankly, that is far more pathetic!

May be sport should be abolished. How is it fair to support one football team and not another?
The other team might get upset for christ sake!

 

Well are you going to justify your sexuality to us then, whatever that may be?

 

You can abolish football for me, be my guest

 

100% agreed there fella!
But some people like it, so eveyone else has to!

 

This thread is still going is it

Who cares if someone is gay as long as they are not in your face about it.
Gay people are not damaged individuals and they are free to be with the people they love.
The way I see it is its none of my business what they get up to !
I don't like seeing it as I posted before but if I do see it I just walk away
and stand somewhere else it really does not bother me unless it's hot lesbians then I might watch for a little bit

At the end of the day gay people are going to be gay no matter what is said about it.

 

That its normal

I don't have to justify anything, but happy to report it as normal heterosexual.

I like **** and fannies, just like the vast majority of men.
Some women also like these things, but hey that's fine in my book

 

And there is hypocrisy personified as by your definition two women together is not normal hence they shoudl be justifying their behaviour!!!

Jeez I always had you down for a bit of dimwit, but this sort of **** takes the biscuit!

 

Can you not read?
Or spell for that matter!

Just to clarify for your thick brain.
I never said people should have to justify their behaviour.

 

In reply to this post:

You posted this:

If you were not, by that, meaning they should justify their 'behaviour' what did you mean by 'challenge'?

You also posted this little gem:

act the way they do??? because of what's wrong with them??????

There is nothing wrong with them FFS!!! Honestly it's like being in the dark ages.

 

If you accept homosexuals as normal/natural behaviour, where do you draw the line at "normal", what criteria of sexual preference is normal/natural?

 

That which happens between consenting, non-related adults in private. It's not that difficult, you know.

 

Can we not all just agree that we all have and are rightly entitled to, differing opinions on this matter and leave it at that now.

Chip

 

I would say abolish F1 but its not a sport!!

 

Surely thats putting the cart before the horse, you don't get into a same sex relationship then become a homosexual?

 

Challenge - as in question rather than accept just because others say something is normal

 

What are you babbling about now?

I'm saying anything goes between consenting adults who aren't related, i.e. incest.

 

What's wrong with incest? if you cannot choose who you are attracted too, what does it matter that you may be related to them?

 

Question the normality of it as in require justification of it being normal!

So I ask you to justify why your sexuality is beyond question whereas that of someone else isn't just because they happen to be in a minority

 

Hetrosexuality is justified because its part of the grand plan ofcouse! Simple stuff really.

 

I think when the law comes into it, i.e. incest being illegal, that makes a difference. Same with paedophilia, some people have natural urges to mess about with kids but the law dictates it's illegal. Where as homosexuality isn't illegal, well that's my take



And my stance on the actual homosexuality thing - live and let live

 

But do you approve?

 

I've never really had that strong-a feelings about it to have to sit down and come up with a decisive answer, Chris.

I'm on the fence with regards same sex adoption but mainly as I've seen the fuss with Elton and his hubby parading their little boy about.

Again, not something I have given that much thought too

 

So you're saying because some sexual preferences are illegal based on our laws (which are pretty much based around the values taught by christianity) that they are wrong? Wasn't being gay until very recently illegal?

Now you've brought paedophilia into the matter thats just another can of worms but from exactly the same shelf. It can't be against the law to have paedophilic urges as that would be exactly the same as having homosexual or hetrosexual urges much in the same way it isn't against the law to think about robbing a bank. So is it just illegal/wrong to act upon your urges and in that case surely as an enlightened human being you would have no issues living beside someone who is honest in saying they have a sexual attraction to children as long as they don't act upon it. Afterall live and let live.

 

Ah, but in my earlier response I said with regards to homosexuality 'live and let live', not things which in the law is stated as illegal

I couldn't tell you what my opinion on homosexuality would have been say 50 or 100 years ago when the subject was much more taboo, but I can say now, in this current era homosexuality doesn't really bother me that much to want to say more than 'live and let live' on that particular subject, James.

 

A ha but as of yet law doesn't govern someone thoughts unless they have shown a desire to act on them.

 

Put simply paedophilia is not sex between consenting adults hence why it's against the law and incest can lead to genetic mutations hence why it's against the law.

Two completely different scenarios to homosexuality and really neither needs discussing on a thread like this as given the Stone Age views of some of the contributors it won't be long until one of the two gets connected to the main subject matter!

 

exactly

im refraining from saying any more aslong as i can lol

 

It doesn't matter about consenting adults or genetic mutations, its much simplier than that. If it is ok to have a homosexual orientation then why do we class others that have different orientations with disgust? It is exactly the same scenerio but with different layers to hide the real issue.

Agreeing that homosexuality is natural is agreeing that every other sexual orientation is natural. You cannot pick and choose which malfunctions of human sexual nature to agree with whilst disregarding the others with disgust.

The fact that paedophilia and incest has been brought into this argument would lead me to believe deep down a few already know this but aren't willing to admit it.