The Undateables
04 April 2012, 04:57 PM
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Firstly it is a syndrome not an illness per se.
I think I have had their debate with you before about Autism spectrum disorders and what I believe is too much enthusiasm from the medical profession to medicalise everyone who is not 'normal' (which of course begs the question of what is normal and this itself is ellusive). Bakers are gonna tell you to eat their bread. Doctors are going to tell you that you are ill and need to buy their services.
I can see Richard is abnormal my point was I think he deliberately derailed that first date and is way too emotionally attached to his Mum. Ok so that might be judgmental but he is not a child and has some responsibility and ability to make decisions.
I think I have had their debate with you before about Autism spectrum disorders and what I believe is too much enthusiasm from the medical profession to medicalise everyone who is not 'normal' (which of course begs the question of what is normal and this itself is ellusive). Bakers are gonna tell you to eat their bread. Doctors are going to tell you that you are ill and need to buy their services.
I can see Richard is abnormal my point was I think he deliberately derailed that first date and is way too emotionally attached to his Mum. Ok so that might be judgmental but he is not a child and has some responsibility and ability to make decisions.
It isn't anything at all to do with the medical profession as most with the syndrome are perfectly healthy, they are just wired up differently.
I honestly don't think Doctors "medicalise" anyone to make a fast buck. Not in our country in any event.
If Richard is attached to his Mum it's because she knows him and he knows her. Interaction is much easier if they are familiar with someone, hence the issues when socialising. I thought that was the point of the programme.
Yes, you are judgmental.
04 April 2012, 05:06 PM
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Could have been a combination of being truly clueless (partly as a result of his condition, partly through inexperience) and nerves!
04 April 2012, 05:12 PM
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04 April 2012, 05:23 PM
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Yes, it's a syndrome, and a life long condition. It's basically who you are and all you can do is make the best of it.
It isn't anything at all to do with the medical profession as most with the syndrome are perfectly healthy, they are just wired up differently.
I honestly don't think Doctors "medicalise" anyone to make a fast buck. Not in our country in any event.
If Richard is attached to his Mum it's because she knows him and he knows her. Interaction is much easier if they are familiar with someone, hence the issues when socialising. I thought that was the point of the programme.
Yes, you are judgmental.
It isn't anything at all to do with the medical profession as most with the syndrome are perfectly healthy, they are just wired up differently.
I honestly don't think Doctors "medicalise" anyone to make a fast buck. Not in our country in any event.
If Richard is attached to his Mum it's because she knows him and he knows her. Interaction is much easier if they are familiar with someone, hence the issues when socialising. I thought that was the point of the programme.
Yes, you are judgmental.
Saying someone is 'wired' differently is an absurd statement. We are not computers or machines. We are beings with minds. To open the door to that sort of reductive physicalism is to be able to say someone is subhuman. You just said in effect they are defective and not like us.
04 April 2012, 05:40 PM
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I'm particularly looking forward to observing the person who draws the picture of his "ideal girlfriend". He appears at the beginning of this week's episode. The eyes need a bit of work. And the "*****". I can't put the clip up from my phone, but if someone could oblige I feel it would serve to help better understand the challenges these brave people face. 
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04 April 2012, 06:03 PM
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Ok I didn't mean a fast buck. I meant the medical profession deploys 'medicalisation' as parts of its 'reason for being'.
Saying someone is 'wired' differently is an absurd statement. We are not computers or machines. We are beings with minds. To open the door to that sort of reductive physicalism is to be able to say someone is subhuman. You just said in effect they are defective and not like us.
Saying someone is 'wired' differently is an absurd statement. We are not computers or machines. We are beings with minds. To open the door to that sort of reductive physicalism is to be able to say someone is subhuman. You just said in effect they are defective and not like us.
http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/...erger-syndrome
04 April 2012, 07:29 PM
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Ok I didn't mean a fast buck. I meant the medical profession deploys 'medicalisation' as parts of its 'reason for being'.
Saying someone is 'wired' differently is an absurd statement. We are not computers or machines. We are beings with minds. To open the door to that sort of reductive physicalism is to be able to say someone is subhuman. You just said in effect they are defective and not like us.
Saying someone is 'wired' differently is an absurd statement. We are not computers or machines. We are beings with minds. To open the door to that sort of reductive physicalism is to be able to say someone is subhuman. You just said in effect they are defective and not like us.
I'd say we are all very much "wired". If you don't think so, watch what happens when a goal is narrowly saved by the keeper in footy. Most men clutch their heads, and most women put their hand over their mouth. Just one example of how we humans behave in a common fashion.
Given a set of circumstances, it's easy to predict how certain so called "normal" people will behave. Anyone with Asperger is just as prone to this, but it's more predictable in content, being very specific, which is what "syndromes" are all about. If they didn't behave in a certain way, you wouldn't be able to put a handle on it!
I certainly wouldn't say anyone with Asperger, or for that matter anyone who finds certain aspects of life challenging, are "defective". Maybe different from the accepted model, but hey, who's perfect?
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That girl on it was just looking for her 6ft copper when she say him in a wheel chair she was gutted ,bet she doesnt find another date unless its with a weeble.
That tourettes guy did great she was a laugh and was fit.
That other guys mother i thought was still quite fit and i bet she was very nice in her prime
04 April 2012, 09:36 PM
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It has to be said, there are a lot of comic possibilities when it comes to various syndromes. From my own considerable experience, you can laugh with people as well as at them. Occasionally, you have "Simpson's" moments, when you're laughing at something other than what tickles them, and there's no harm in it.
04 April 2012, 10:52 PM
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For example, an ex girlfriend of mine rang me up the other day to tell me that she had AIDS and I didn't know how to comfort her, so I just said:
"I know" ........
Credit to Anthony Jeselnik for that little gem!!
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Richard's voice did my head in.
The little lady was being a bit choosy considering her situation, but I did like her.
The tourettes bloke was brilliant, as was his date. I hope they make it as a pair
The little lady was being a bit choosy considering her situation, but I did like her.
The tourettes bloke was brilliant, as was his date. I hope they make it as a pair
07 April 2012, 12:28 PM
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Wife took great delight in reminding me I have the exact same hobby as that richard guy - locking myself in the spare room talking to other radio amateurs !!
to be honest would well imagine that french women could have been a bit off a strange one under it all- why else would she have wanted to meet him again ??!!
the one in the pub was hilarious she seemed okay but could not waitt to get out off there, wonder why she choose the large meal, under the circumstances a half pint and a packet off nuts would have got her out off there quicker !!
Richard laughed at himself, the guy with touretts laughed at himself ( stand up comedy about his condition if you remember ) so no dont feel there is nothing to laugh about, as pointed out the folk were happy to be on the show and altogether I feel it was very well done.
lastly- yes total respect to the young lass who met up with the guy with the touretts-good on her.
to be honest would well imagine that french women could have been a bit off a strange one under it all- why else would she have wanted to meet him again ??!!
the one in the pub was hilarious she seemed okay but could not waitt to get out off there, wonder why she choose the large meal, under the circumstances a half pint and a packet off nuts would have got her out off there quicker !!
Richard laughed at himself, the guy with touretts laughed at himself ( stand up comedy about his condition if you remember ) so no dont feel there is nothing to laugh about, as pointed out the folk were happy to be on the show and altogether I feel it was very well done.
lastly- yes total respect to the young lass who met up with the guy with the touretts-good on her.
10 April 2012, 10:47 PM
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Actually thought it was quite good. Fair play to that chap with the major deformities. Real shame seeing how it affected him from being a normal looking toddler too. Great chap and a good personality. The sort of chap that sticks two fingers up at all the dole scroungers and people who are 'depressed' because they can't afford a new pair of fecking shoes. I hope he does get more dates with that woman and well done her fro seeing past his problems at the regular bloke underneath.
The tubby guy with the mad hair was cringworthy though. He really has some issues about being a stalker type and needed a bit of coaching.
The blonde lass in the wheelchair is quite fit. What a w*nker her other half must have been for running off and leaving when she got ill.
On balance a fairly inspiring programme this week I thought. Hope there are updates at the end.
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The tubby guy with the mad hair was cringworthy though. He really has some issues about being a stalker type and needed a bit of coaching.
The blonde lass in the wheelchair is quite fit. What a w*nker her other half must have been for running off and leaving when she got ill.
On balance a fairly inspiring programme this week I thought. Hope there are updates at the end.
5t.