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Old 08 February 2012, 11:37 PM
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Fabio was never the right man for the job esp @ £6m a year. HR would be nuts to take the job. M O'N would be my shout but he ain't thick either so i say raffle the job
Old 08 February 2012, 11:42 PM
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I dont get this facination with Martin O'Niell, awful football to watch.
Old 08 February 2012, 11:45 PM
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Originally Posted by richie001
A major tournament in the summer and the manager resigns,Only England
Probably a good thing, all them fringe players who cant get in due to the likes of Terry, Lampard, Gerrard, Barry etc will probably put twice as much effort in to win a place and will do twice as good.
Old 08 February 2012, 11:48 PM
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I usually get bored watching football anyway so pretty football doesn't bother me. I usually switch over and then click back at the end of the match for the result and it's results which M O'N seems to be good at getting
Old 08 February 2012, 11:55 PM
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Originally Posted by pslewis
I posted in the correct section .... 1 minute earlier .... if you look
Yes but no one takes you seriously so ignore your threads, you do support Middlesbrough after all

Not surprised he has gone, as soon as the FA Board intervened against his wishes it was all over.

I don't believe Redknapp will quit Spurs now he has got them to where they are in the league and with Champions League football beckoning next season. He'd be mad to quit for the England job, after all who is going to want it now after the FA Board have shown how they like to run the show and doesn't matter what the manager wants.

If I was picking a manager i'd want it to be Guus Hiddink, for me the best manager in World football. However he would never take it and the FA are hell bent now on an English manager. Who's that leave? Southgate or Pearce?

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Old 09 February 2012, 01:10 AM
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The clear choice for me here is Gazza

FFS how longs 68k going to last the lad , with h
is talent
Old 09 February 2012, 02:25 AM
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England have failed to improve under Cappello and the fiasco in the last world cup warranted his removal then.
Harry is the obvious choice .
Old 09 February 2012, 06:27 AM
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Originally Posted by tony de wonderful
Who gives a toss if he is English or not? Loads of national teams do well with a foreign manager.
Name one?

Name a team that has won something with a foreign manager.

It's usually countries with poor teams. Oh, wait a min, that sounds familiar
Old 09 February 2012, 06:59 AM
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Hiddink would make me think twice.
Old 09 February 2012, 07:02 AM
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Originally Posted by davyboy
Name one?

Name a team that has won something with a foreign manager.

It's usually countries with poor teams. Oh, wait a min, that sounds familiar
Greece managed in 2004 by Otto Rehhagel

Seriously though you generally cant argue this because previous winners of things such as the World Cup have been by the teams that are so damn strong in the first place, Brazil, Italy, Argentina, Spain, Germany etc all teams who have a great chance of winning the tournament regardless of who is in charge
Old 09 February 2012, 08:48 AM
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Originally Posted by r32
I thought Capello got it right. Terry hasnt been proven guilty of anything yet. So surely he is innocent until proven guilty in the eyes of the law.
Not sure I agree
Capello should have gone to the FA and had a meeting behind closed doors
But no, he had to rock the boat against his employer in an interview in his native county.

I agree with the FA - there is no way Terry can represent England as captain with his track record.
And also - well done Rio for telling them that he doesn't want it.

I can't see Redknapp taking on the role - especially given what the press do to the manager when he doesn't excel!

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Old 09 February 2012, 09:26 AM
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Old 09 February 2012, 09:37 AM
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Originally Posted by mgcvk
£6 million a year for a part-time job and **** all to show for it. He was never realistically likely to win anything anyway so why £6 million a year? Anyone from any walk of life could manage the England team and get the same results. Get a bossy school mum in the job!
Be a good time to show restraint on the stupid wages all footballers etc get paid.
The FA should realise the hard times in which most of us are living and why should the manager be paid more than a Banker?
Old 09 February 2012, 11:17 AM
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Interestingly, of all the managers since 1946, FC has the best win ratio!

P 42 W 28 D 8 L 6

Doesn't look that bad does it?
Old 09 February 2012, 11:24 AM
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Seems to me that if you pay sportsmen such obscenely high salaries they become so self important that they feel it is beneath their dignity to really try hard at the game anymore.

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Old 09 February 2012, 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by An0n0m0us
If I was picking a manager i'd want it to be Guus Hiddink, for me the best manager in World football. However he would never take it and the FA are hell bent now on an English manager.

I'd second that

Brooking did say only a few weeks ago that they haven't decided it has to be English, he even said it could still be Capello (obviously that changed due to JT and Chelsea having his case adjourned until July, forcing the FA's hand)

Harry has a very good team of coaches around him as well as his own man management skills, but what's he really achieved, an FA cup win ??

We can still hold out some hope for Hiddink

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Old 09 February 2012, 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Brun
Interestingly, of all the managers since 1946, FC has the best win ratio!

P 42 W 28 D 8 L 6

Doesn't look that bad does it?
No, but it was the manner of some of the loses that bothered me.

How we can be unbeaten in group, and then trash in a finals!
Old 09 February 2012, 12:25 PM
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None of this would have come about had Chelsea not pushed for a re scheduling of the Terry trial until after the football season had finished purely for their own benefit.

The FA were hopeful the case would have been over and done with had the case gone to trial in Mar/Apr as expected then allowing them to make a decision one way or the other on Terry dependant on the outcome, the fact the case was put back to July forced their hand, they had no option, even taking into account innocent until proved guilty, it was the stigma of having your captain at the second biggest tournament in football with a racism charge hanging over his head, doesnt sit well with the whole kick racism out of football ethos.

I feel some sympathy for Capello, he is a good manager/coach, with a good CV, his lack of English never endeared him to the England supporters nor the media (although he is easier to understand than Kenneth Dalglish) but his record stands up against any of the previous managers going back 30 years or more, a man of principles and he stood by them.
I also have a lot of time for the new FA chairman Bernstein, another strong character who also stood by his principles, there was always only going to be one winner. To read that Capello was never informed of Terry losing the captaincy is rubbish imho, he knew but he didn't agree so his role became untenable.

Terry ruined the mood in the camp for the WC 2010 and was doing it again for Euro 2012, the man is poison.

Someone noted on the radio last night that what if Harry agreed to take the job only if Terry was captain I think if Harry got it the cappo would be Parker without a doubt.

Personally I'm another in the Hiddink corner, I dont care where the manager comes from, it's about the best man for the job, we have some cracking youngsters coming through for England and under the guidance of Hiddink they could go on to be a quality team, and I'm sure he would pick a team that plays like a team irrespective of which club they play for and not 11 ego's running about the pitch with massive bank accounts and no class.
Old 09 February 2012, 12:29 PM
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Harry says he has not thought about the England job - thats because he's still celebrating over getting away with the tax evasion charges brought against him. Harry was looking guilty but how he did it.....only Harry "houdini" will know.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/
Old 09 February 2012, 12:35 PM
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the law of the land innocent till proven guilty, the law of the FA, guilty till proven innocent.

personaly i think terry a muppet and all of the footballers are overpaid waste of spaces, however i dont agree with terry being pulled form captain ont he possibility of being guilty.

I think the FA have meddeled in something they should have left till it was decided elsewhere.

My guess is thats why cappello's left, FA made a decision he didn't agree with and as the manager whats the point when your get your choices overulled?

theres no doubt his won percentage is better than any recent manager and like or hate him you cant argue with results.
Old 09 February 2012, 12:48 PM
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Terry should have been stripped of the captaincy, the only thing the FA did wrong was leave it so late after the accusation before doing so.

Any other profession who gets accussed of such things they would be suspended until the matter is cleared up. This should be no different.
Old 09 February 2012, 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Tidgy
FA made a decision he didn't agree with and as the manager whats the point when your get your choices overulled?
The FA is his employer though.
Old 09 February 2012, 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Funkii Munkii
I'd second that

Brooking did say only a few weeks ago that they haven't decided it has to be English, he even said it could still be Capello (obviously that changed due to JT and Chelsea having his case adjourned until July, forcing the FA's hand)

Harry has a very good team of coaches around him as well as his own man management skills, but what's he really achieved, an FA cup win ??

We can still hold out some hope for Hiddink

http://www1.skysports.com/football/n...g-England-role





Christ that's the best news i've seen all day If the FA don't appoint him they all need sacking. Hiddink is without doubt the best manager in the World and why Chelsea never kept him I don't know as he was superb when there.

He is head and shoulders better than anyone else at domestic or international level and if he wants the job sign him up now. He is one manager I have strong beliefs in. In fact sod it sack Wenger and get him at Arsenal
Old 09 February 2012, 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by davegtt
Terry should have been stripped of the captaincy, the only thing the FA did wrong was leave it so late after the accusation before doing so.

Any other profession who gets accussed of such things they would be suspended until the matter is cleared up. This should be no different.
Like I said they were hoping the case would go ahead as planned in Mar/Apr and the decision would have been taken out of their hands as a result of the case would have come well before the finals.

Blame Chelsea's lawyers for that one
Old 09 February 2012, 01:54 PM
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Terry is guilty as hell. His reputation speaks words.

Check this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OfoaoQImtaI

4 seconds in, keep clicking on the 4 seconds mark and see for yourself. You don't need a court, manager, agent, whoever else involved to see he is guilty.

For the FA to strip Terry as England captain is a light permission i think. If you were to say what he said in your work place they would suspend you whilst investigating.

So we are making a fuss of his captaincy, the guys like to be still playing. Re: to Capello resigning, thats a shame because he was a no nonsense none English speaking manager. This time it should be an English Manager taking charge.
Old 09 February 2012, 01:58 PM
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[quote=Funkii Munkii;10478332]
Someone noted on the radio last night that what if Harry agreed to take the job only if Terry was captain I think if Harry got it the cappo would be Parker without a doubt.quote]

I second that, Parker is a fantastic player, like Terry, Parker puts his head on the line in every game you see him playing but without being in the paper for all the wrong reasons.

I've watched Parker when he used to play for Chalton FC and thought this guy is going places. Even now he lets the football do the talking unlike Terry he lets both his feet and mouth do the talking.
Old 09 February 2012, 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by chet123
Terry is guilty as hell. His reputation speaks words.

Check this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OfoaoQImtaI

4 seconds in, keep clicking on the 4 seconds mark and see for yourself. You don't need a court, manager, agent, whoever else involved to see he is guilty.

For the FA to strip Terry as England captain is a light permission i think. If you were to say what he said in your work place they would suspend you whilst investigating.

So we are making a fuss of his captaincy, the guys like to be still playing. Re: to Capello resigning, thats a shame because he was a no nonsense none English speaking manager. This time it should be an English Manager taking charge.
not seen that before, guilty as charged m'lord
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No - neither had I
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He is head and shoulders better than anyone else at domestic or international level
A sweeping statement while SAF is still breathing


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