Razorwrx1

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My dads got a Corolla T-Sport, 189bhp. Not rapid but good for a hot hatch. Climate Control, Traction Control, 6spd Box. Going cheap now n all. And you get 34mpg

eugmul

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Have you had a go in a 306 Gti6/Rallye? Tick all the above boxes and can be had for relatively low money now a days. Brilliant LOOS animals, not as mad as the 205 but good fun.Give a lot of more expensive cars a run for their money.

bonesetter

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I had a 306 DT which was a brilliant car. I wouldn't have called that quite the last word in chuckability, but the handling as you say would put many to shame

WRXrowdy

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They are supposed to be crap (never driven one just read reviews).

SRSport

and with very high tax (over 225g/km) which will see them become unsalable in the next couple of years.

mervil

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The mrs has a 172 Cup and it's mega! No ABS or traction, just over 1000kg, and when you get up past 5k revs all hell breaks loose, awesome fun! Handles brilliantly on the right tyres and could embarrass quite a few higher performance cars too

Been thinking of ITBs for it loads of tuning stuff available

petethemeat

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I currently own a 172 cup which i am looking to sell to get a bugeye.

They are brilliant little cars, handle like they are on rails (the eibachs help) plus with 36mpg they arent thirsty either.

Drive a few different models of hot hatch and make your decision from there

bonesetter

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Is the 172 cup the Clio to go for?

jayallen

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The 172 cup is the "RA" of the clio world....no abs, aircon, cloth seats, 60kgs lighter to start with....Im hoping to get to Sheffeild next weekend to view one.

bonesetter

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sounds good to me

jonc

That or Clio Trophy.

daza1974

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my fav old hot hatch was my beloved uno turbo ie mental little car always made me smile all my mates 205 1.9s rs turbos etc it used to keep up and quite often beat them

Rob669

You mean 80 kg. The 172 Cups (which were a Phase 2 Clio) are 14 kg lighter than the Ph1 172 (which gets leather, aircon, abs and most importantly the more responsive cable operated throttle compared to FBW versions on all the later RS Clios). I competed against a 172 Cup at Haynes' museum track where it went into a hedge, partly due to no abs). If you go down the Clio route expect high revs to go fast. Much better brakes than Scoobs though and better by miles if fitted with DS2500 pads. Finding a good 172 Cup will be hard work unless you're ok with buying a wreck and spending some money - I saw five before buying my Scooby, all terrible. Mods are not worthwhile unless you consider cams and throttle bodies, i.e. you are prepared to spend many 1000s. 182 Cups need inlet manifolds matching (£250ish) and a remap (£250ish) then expect to see 173-175 HP at a reliable rolling road). 172s make 160 to 165 horses - and that's with breathing mods (matched inlet manifolds, exhaust and air filter). My 172 does make around 35 to 40 mpg though and even when driven quite hard. Hope that helps.

petethemeat

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Yeah i agree with that on the mods front, i bought mine to enjoy it as it was however when parts broke e.g snapped spring i replaced with a quality eibach items, when my original backbox fell off i replaced with a fully stainless Ktec system.

Wolf_gsxr

Mk1 saxo vts. Same engine and chassis as 106 gti but lighter. I still have one that's sat in the garage. Very quick 120bhp 0-60 in about 7 seconds.

Wolf_gsxr

Also handle a hell of alot better than a clio. They recon the only car that handles better than the saxo/106 of the time was the Honda integra type r.

bonesetter

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As good as they are, I just don't think I could bring myself to drive the ultimate Chav car

jayallen

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I very much doubt that fella, more likely he run out of talent!

Mog

Just got a Clio 200 Raider, very impressed with it, so much more fun than the 400bhp Focus RS that was sold......

3MPS

You should go and drive one

CrisPDuk

A mate's girlfriend bought a VTS right after they were launched, I had a number of drives in it, and have to say, was seriously impressed

Couldn't own one though, aside from the image, I prefer a car I can drive without having to take my shoes off

petethemeat

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My cup is for sale

MRSIMPSON

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I used to have a mini cooper s, it was fantastic, superchargers are awesome. I drove the John Cooper S, and it was great fun. Very well made car too, worthy of a test drive I think.