joz8968

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JTaylor

Jesus Christ

Turbohot

The symbol of sacrifice and kindness? Good on you, James.

Much better than the one and only Homer Simpson that quite a few here must take as their role model.

JTaylor

tony de wonderful

Role models are for children.

JTaylor

Aren't Christians to be childlike before God?

stipete75

My children are made to do religious education at school, they are both very switched and know none of it is true. What a waste when they could be doing extra mathematics or geography that would actually help toward better prospects for their future.
Edit, I do however appreciate other people have beliefs and religions.
My role model will always be my mum!!!

Milneragain

John Milner.

jazzyjembreaze

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dpb

Let's get him on the blower , get the full lowdown

CutMasterT

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Peter Griffin...

Dingdongler

hodgy0_2

And maybe he could tell us where those schoolgirls in Nigeria are

JGlanzaV

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Sonny Barger

Stand tall in the face of adversity and don't let the *******s get you down,

Some one to rely on until the very bitter end, and will always stand by his friends. What I aspire to do in my life.

WRXrowdy

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Homer Simps . . . . . DOH!


Not so much a role model but someone I admired for being the best at what he did and just quietly went about his business . . . Joey Dunlop.
Could still get on a bike and win up until the time of his death, at an age when many a man would have hung his leathers up, flying in the face of major corporations like HRC, being a factory rider for them yet making them ship the bikes over to him so he could do the spanner work himself cos he just knew best, and quietly loading his trucks up with relief gear and driving it himself halfway across Europe to help those in need.



Oh, and Jeremy Clarkson . . . Although I have been living in a cave for the last six months, he hasn't done anything I have missed has he.

Rapid17

King Kong.

Turbohot

All religious folks can be childlike before God, not just Christians. Christians aren't the only ones with some special licence to be childlike before the Almighty.

JTaylor

Yes, you're right of course, Swati. I was reminded of Luke 18:15-17

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/...=Luke+18:15-17

Turbohot

The kingdom of God may not let me in, for I am just a regular adult full of all the sins that you could name. I hardly received anything like a little child, but I did render like a child, if that counts? Also, if that butter thief, rascal of a kid called Krishna can call himself an Almighty God, I think I may have a chance to just about sneak in there.

Cats sneak in to join Hujj after eating 900 mice alive, so will I; one day. I should stay optimistic, really. What do you think?

Please don't tell me to have a dip into Ganges to wash away my sins. I don't want to make the holy waters dirty with my sins.

dpb

It's full of dead bodies allready

Turbohot

See, you've got it. That's the real reason why I'm making excuses to have a dip in there.

hodgy0_2

the ONLY requirement for entry to heaven is to let Jesus into your life - full stop

it is not a question of good, bad, sin, sinless

JTaylor

We're all sinners, Swati, it's just that some are sinners saved.

Turbohot

Well, I have a synonym for Jesus, which is Buddha. Not that I blindly follow Buddha's teaching either, however, will he do, James?

<P.S.- Sorry I thought you were James, Hodgy. I didn't pay much attention to my half cut screen on my wee iPhone, and you did actually sound like James with your contents >

Or, does it definitely have to be Jesus? I don't mind if Jesus is any cool-er than Buddha.

By the way, I am also not liking this blackmail that in order to enter His kingdom, I have to let one of his side kicks in to my life. Why? That really is not fair.

Also, I don't think just by letting Jesus or even Buddha in to my life would guarantee anything unless I change my deeds that make up my life. You may advise me to just let Jesus in, and rest will change automatically. I'm not so sure; knowing me. Magic will happen when I change my deeds, not just with me merely letting him in for his Father's name's sake.

Now you may argue that actually my deeds aren't changing because I'm keeping Jesus at my arm's length. Well, may be that's what it is.

What do you mean by some are sinners saved? Do you mean- "....it's just that some sinners are saved"? If latter, then I would also like to believe that, James. As long as they can eventually unmess the mess they made, they should certainly be saved.

If you meant former, then please explain what you meant by that. In my humble opinion, there's no way anyone could be sinners saved. Everyone has been affected by the sinners at some point in their life. I will exclude God from that 'everyone'- obviously.

JGlanzaV

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How did this turn into a religious debate?

I guess that comes under the heading fictional role models

JTaylor

http://biblehub.com/john/14-6.htm

I don't believe that Christ is one of God's sidekicks, I believe that Jesus is God incarnate. If you don't want to let Him in to your life then that's up to you. I didn't have a choice in the matter.

I believe that you are justified by faith in Jesus Christ and by faith alone. One then needs to strive to not knowingly sin and demonstrate one's faith and regeneration through works. All of this is granted by God's grace.

I believe that's a certainty.

Sin can't be undone by the sinner, but can be forgiven by the Lord if the sinner is elected to receive His grace. Not everyone is elected.

http://biblehub.com/matthew/22-14.htm

As above, if one is baptised in the Holy Spirit they are saved and will enter the Kingdom of God.

Turbohot

Thank you, James. I'll read your links on me laptop.

CrisPDuk

I bet that's the grounding for all those letters Tony Bliar issued

WRXrowdy

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Jesus Christ . . . Someone get this thread back on topic . . . Please!

Turbohot

So, what you are saying is that Jesus is the only way; for you. I can't see any problem with that.

The fact is, I can't possibly shut my door to God. How can I; to something so fluid and ever-present everywhere? Just that my faith doesn't narrow down to only one metaphor for the ultimate humanity. And it surely is up to me to keep my faith 'open' to as many metaphors, not just for the one and one alone.


Regeneration through work is same as improving on your deeds, I think? I agree that it is granted by God's grace. As I said before, my God is much versatile and magnificent to be trapped in just one metaphor and that metaphor alone.


One needs to let in Jesus or none, as per your first link. As I said, I can't possibly keep God away despite all my sins. Jesus is God incarnate, so he's welcome, I don't mind. At one condition that He can't boast about Himself and Himself alone.

HA! I won't regret if He's going to be that arrogant about it.

Each time I feed a hungry mouth, I visit His grand Kingdom. That's my baptism, that's my ritual and my ritual alone for the purpose. Amen.