lol

 

Quite right, i can't bring myself to drive it in the rain either.

Which is why i bought this :-



She's currently in preparation for next season and looking like this at the mo:-



By end of month brief spec will be as follows:-

Scoobyclinic 2.5, Turbo Dynamics MD321, Simtek ECU, 400/420, Carbon-R Triple-plate clutch, PPG straight cut box with billet forks and DCCD, AP Brakes all round...............

Should be a good all-rounder !

 

Those are just minor cosmetic things, it's what's underneath that counts (i.e. gearbox, diff's, driveshafts, brakes etc...).

The P1 was a good car, but fundamentally it was compromised for the UK market.

Get some pics up then. It may well be mechanically better if it's been heavily modded, but in standard form it was certainly not.

4 times the price?

 

I'm going to voice my opinion as I only have a UK2000.

If I had, lets say, 7k to spend and I was going for a 2 door it would have to be a Type R, plain and simple.

Comes with all the things the P1 should have got and can be changed cosmetically if required.

The price difference between a Type R and P1 is enough to leave money for upgrades, ending in a better car all round.

My headscratcher is that you can buy a reasonable spec UK Classic for £2k (like I did) and after looking round a P1 recently I dont see how they can be worth 3 times what mine is. As said, theyre 11+ years old and I dont see how the prices can be justified.

 

Now that you have the 2 together they don't look that different after all what does the Type R have that the P1 doesn't?

TX.

 

DCCD, intercooler spray, sti rear lights, quick rack, not sure on the engine spec tho.

 

Don't forget the short ratio gear box and rear wiper.

In short the P1 IS a type r with all the goodies stripped off

 

same shell but 10x better looking,althought he type r a few posts up looks stunning

 

I personally prefer the type r over the p1.
Here's a few of mine.Sorry the underneath isn't a very good shot.
It's off for a clean underneath next week,a stainless cat back and a wax oil.
Next month it's brakes all round as it's still on it's originals.
I might use it in the rain after that.Maybe.






Danny.

 

There was one on Eblag last week with less than 20k miles,Reached £14 Grand & reserve not met.
Item number 220874179733

 

p1 does have a rear wiper does have a quick rack does have intercooler spray ok no dccd the biggest problem with a type r is when you tell somebody you got a type r 100% of them think you got a civic

 

yes, you are correct.
No it has a fast rack, only version 6 type R's and limiteds have the quick rack standard
No it doesnt, if the car has ABS then it doesnt have the ic spray
Never had that problem as I say ive an STI v5 type R

Tony

 

And it all goes out the window on the quest for more power lol, suspension gone, brakes upgraded, engine forged and a bye to the 5 speed short ratio box and hello 6 speed.

For me it had to be a p1, limited build number, out of the box the suspension was set up for UK roads, looked better in my opinion, rear spoiler, front lip, p1 badges, p1 seats etc oh and its a UK car so insurance for me at the time was miles cheaper.

The engine horror story is true but it goes for any imported impreza so don't be put off! Just hold out for one with full history, engine rebuild by a known builder, try and get one which has been mapped to UK fuel along with a few choice mods to up the power to 320-340bhp and you will have a great road car.

Oh and that also goes for the type r,

Would also advise driving one of each to see which you prefer as this p1 / type r debate will live on for ever, you will never get a one sided argument and will end up more confused. You have to live with it, you have to drive it so who cares what we all say

End of the day YOU have hit the nail on the head and have said YOU really want a p1

My view is, if you buy a type r you will always want the p1 or the itch to have one will always be there so get it over with lol


Best of luck what ever you do

 

stand corrected on quick rack, i have a p1 out side with abs AND intercooler spray,
personal preference on the cars as i see it mine will soon have a six speed dccd to go with the monster engine mods that are under way.
when i was looking to buy a impreza after selling my mexico i wanted an iconic version of this great car and there are only two iconic versions 22b and the p1 the others are all great cars but as i said not iconic models

 

Where do you fill up the ic spray mate?
Mines in the drivers side front corner but my mates P1 has the abs there instead.No ic spray.I honestly didn't think p1's had it.

 

Sorry, but... bought a Type R after initially having the itch for a P1, and have never looked back. Here's the thread which helped decide, and here's my Type R thread

However, to balance - the P1 (Type R UK tweaked) ideal is better than a Type R STi. This car is NOT ideally suited for UK B-road hooning, it's just too manic. Ideally you need an extended 5th gear otherwise you're going to be screaming the nuts off the STi, so mod'd WRX V-Ltd or STi with P1 'box (and 'P1' suspension )

 

Sorry you're under attack on this thread, but I would really advise against going 6 speed. I know a couple of folk who have and they have both said how this has spoilt the character of the car

 

intercooler spray would of been added by some1,i was looking to buy a type r untill i seen the p1 and that was the end of that lol. if your running lots of horses then 6 speed is best option although as above it totaly changes the car

 

what gearbox would you advise for 500bhp 450 ibs ft

 

Haha but yours is not exactly a std type r though is it lol bloody lovely looking though top car

 

Scoobyclinics gearset, its about 5.5k fully built but its better (and rated much higher) than the PPG gearset.

Tony

 

is that in the car ans straight cut

 

Seems they dropped the price

http://www.scoobyclinic.com/products_clutches.htm

Tony

 

Thanks.

What you say is true, and although I have spent on my Type R, I haven't spent all that much more than perhaps i would have on a well sorted P1. To come right down to it, my WRX V-Ltd is near as damn a P1. I love the P1 and think it the best Scooby - ever - for UK fast road use. That's why I modled my Type R on them

 

Best of both worlds for you then mate, top stuff

 

Looking good

On a side note, what wax oil you going for?

 

Mr Moff's already said it, the ic goes where the abs unit is, hence you get one OR the other, so yours will have something fitted in the boot probably and no auto function.

The P1 isnt an iconic car tbh, the 22B is, hence a good one holds its money, a P1 can be had for as little as 5k now, its not a factory special, its actually a bit of a *******ised car, its neither a "proper" STI or a "proper STI type R factory edition (JDM market), its a standard sti in a type R shell, hence you get the abs etc, and its had all the goodies stripped out of it like climate control and the really nasty standard air con put in.

Sorting the car (or similar type R out) to run nicely on the UK roads is quite simple as the P1 still uses the STI shocks but with eibach springs, but a uk turbo was a better setup car (rb5 or the prodrive models for example) for UK roads.

They are nice cars but not as special as you think, special to the UK market as you have a jdm type car for the uk, but Prodrive had their hands tied a little in what they could do 100% with the car (the map mainly which is still a version 5 STI map designed for 100 ron fuel, hence the engine failures you get on this car), but with a little more knock correction added.

Tony

 

How were these cars 'better set-up' Tony?

 

I love my type r, and never even considered a p1 once i knew the type r exsisted it was type r all the way.

5yrs ago i paid 7k for mine and i did see a few p1's for sale and they were almost double the price things have become slightly more realistic these days but they are still way over priced imo.

I would sooner buy a sh1tter of a 22b and spend time and money bringing it back to a really nice condition, as the end result will actually be an iconic car that will be worth the time and money as well as being a worth while investment, even though i'm not a fan of blown arches.

 

Thanks mate.I'm not sure which wax oil to go for.The garage has some that he likes to use but he did say if I wanted to supply my own it was fine.
Any recommendations?