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13 September 2011, 03:33 PM
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God only knows what would happen if those wolves started moving into and thriving in urban centres just like the foxes have.
13 September 2011, 03:52 PM
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It would be good in theory to re-introduce some natural balance but would the public accept it? The first time any farmers lost sheep or anyone was attacked by wild wolves I expect there would be a public outcry.
God only knows what would happen if those wolves started moving into and thriving in urban centres just like the foxes have.
God only knows what would happen if those wolves started moving into and thriving in urban centres just like the foxes have.
Plus the tourist appeal of seeing wild animals, if they stand in a box for days looking for a duck, then I`m sure they would spend a few hours watching a pack of wolves, esp if they had a man made den with cameras etc.
Camping with the wolves howl in the night, now that would be special.
http://www.yellowstone-bearman.com/wolves.html
Put the beaver back, and other native species. Then the land would return back to how it should be.
Keep a lot of the moors for shooting and the tourist trade but the highlands would do well from it I recon.
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13 September 2011, 05:57 PM
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Wolves are shy animals and usually keep away from people, but they have managed in other areas quite fine with Wolf reintroduction. Peoples attitudes are different these days, as we are not so dependant on a small number of sheep like we used to be. Where if 2 died we`d be starving etc.
Plus the tourist appeal of seeing wild animals, if they stand in a box for days looking for a duck, then I`m sure they would spend a few hours watching a pack of wolves, esp if they had a man made den with cameras etc.
Camping with the wolves howl in the night, now that would be special.
http://www.yellowstone-bearman.com/wolves.html
Put the beaver back, and other native species. Then the land would return back to how it should be.
Keep a lot of the moors for shooting and the tourist trade but the highlands would do well from it I recon.
Plus the tourist appeal of seeing wild animals, if they stand in a box for days looking for a duck, then I`m sure they would spend a few hours watching a pack of wolves, esp if they had a man made den with cameras etc.
Camping with the wolves howl in the night, now that would be special.
http://www.yellowstone-bearman.com/wolves.html
Put the beaver back, and other native species. Then the land would return back to how it should be.
Keep a lot of the moors for shooting and the tourist trade but the highlands would do well from it I recon.
13 September 2011, 06:15 PM
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Yep great right up until a hungry pack eats a lone hiker, ok no great loss 1 hiker but can you image the fuss it would cause, also don't think the salmon industry would agree with the beavers, and what about the rivers think it would cost rather alot to manage for a very small population.
Salmon live in Canada and have done for eons, Salmon jump damns, beavers make dams, and its only the slow areas the beaver can live. Not the fast flowing salmon runs.
You let them go in the upper river areas and they do the rest.
Starving wolves, in a land populated by Deer, and sheep. Wolves you can scare away by shouting and running at them, if they are still after you then walk away, leave your sandwiches/food and go. Highly unlikely to have a Wolf attack a human unless cornered or injured, or defending pups. Same as foxes they would run away.
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13 September 2011, 08:37 PM
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How would it??
Salmon live in Canada and have done for eons, Salmon jump damns, beavers make dams, and its only the slow areas the beaver can live. Not the fast flowing salmon runs.
You let them go in the upper river areas and they do the rest.
Starving wolves, in a land populated by Deer, and sheep. Wolves you can scare away by shouting and running at them, if they are still after you then walk away, leave your sandwiches/food and go. Highly unlikely to have a Wolf attack a human unless cornered or injured, or defending pups. Same as foxes they would run away.
Salmon live in Canada and have done for eons, Salmon jump damns, beavers make dams, and its only the slow areas the beaver can live. Not the fast flowing salmon runs.
You let them go in the upper river areas and they do the rest.
Starving wolves, in a land populated by Deer, and sheep. Wolves you can scare away by shouting and running at them, if they are still after you then walk away, leave your sandwiches/food and go. Highly unlikely to have a Wolf attack a human unless cornered or injured, or defending pups. Same as foxes they would run away.
Problem introducing captive wolves into the wild, they don't know how to hunt,and change of environment is also a factor same as with big cats the survival rates are very low.
The queens deer and the farmers sheep, if i were a scottish hill farmer not sure i would be too keen reguardless of any compensation scheme.
Also preditors usually go for the easy pray, deer and sheep move pretty quick where as men are comparatively slow, and it would take quite a few sheep to feed a dozen packs of wolves of 10/15 wolves.
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13 September 2011, 11:49 PM
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didn't realise there was a few people keen on shooting etc like i am on here, last year there was a thread and i got torn apart by some as i don't express my words as well as the rest of you.
14 September 2011, 12:10 AM
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Beavers build dams on waters where it is very unlikely to get salmon. Having just returned from Alaska the salmon and the beavers were in entirely different places.
14 September 2011, 08:33 AM
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I say stand up and be counted at the end of the day its what you enjoy. !
Where did the whole wolf thing come from.
14 September 2011, 02:48 PM
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14 September 2011, 03:22 PM
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All the usual guff about the reasons for killing healthy animals for no real reason but to satisfy the killing lust of the man doing the shooting, and those making a lot of cash out of owning the shoots.
Mother Nature has always been very good at regulating the numbers according to the food which is available.
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Mother Nature has always been very good at regulating the numbers according to the food which is available.
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14 September 2011, 03:45 PM
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All the usual guff about the reasons for killing healthy animals for no real reason but to satisfy the killing lust of the man doing the shooting, and those making a lot of cash out of owning the shoots.
Mother Nature has always been very good at regulating the numbers according to the food which is available.
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Mother Nature has always been very good at regulating the numbers according to the food which is available.
Les
We are part of Mother Nature ourselves so do have a part to play. We now rely on our food being served to us in convenient shrink wrapped packages and most people in the modern world would be unable to survive without this. We have become so distanced from the source of our food that we don't even know what is in half the junk we eat or where it came from.
14 September 2011, 04:04 PM
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Im a keen shooter, both target, vermin and game. I say let the country folk do what they need/want to and the concrete jungle boys can stick to what they need want to do. I dont go round telling people to stay away from the gym or nightclubs
14 September 2011, 04:08 PM
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^^^^ true
but we all buy into it - its our way of life now.
with jobs to do, less time, means conveience can win a lot of time.
but it does mean people have less underastanding of where it comes from or what it is, altho education for the young now, hopefully helps a bit.
my son doesnt understand how meat comes from animals, and hes 24 haha, jike btw hes 3
but we all buy into it - its our way of life now.
with jobs to do, less time, means conveience can win a lot of time.
but it does mean people have less underastanding of where it comes from or what it is, altho education for the young now, hopefully helps a bit.
my son doesnt understand how meat comes from animals, and hes 24 haha, jike btw hes 3
15 September 2011, 08:00 PM
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I used to use shotguns for rabbits, grey squirrels, wood pigeons, feral pigeons and foxes. These days I use pre-charged pneumatic air rifles on rabbits, sqiirrels, wood pigeons and feral pigeons. Rabbits, squirrels and wood pigeons are butchered and given to my daughters for cat food. Feral pigeons are left behind as they are filthy disease ridden vermin almost as bad as rats.
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15 September 2011, 09:00 PM
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I used to use shotguns for rabbits, grey squirrels, wood pigeons, feral pigeons and foxes. These days I use pre-charged pneumatic air rifles on rabbits, sqiirrels, wood pigeons and feral pigeons. Rabbits, squirrels and wood pigeons and butchered and given to my daughters for cat food. Feral pigeons are left behind as they are filthy disease ridden vermin almost as bad as rats.
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15 September 2011, 09:14 PM
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Check the Webley & Scott Hellfire
http://www.micksguns.com/air%20guns.htm
Not seen many of those before.
http://www.micksguns.com/air%20guns.htm
Not seen many of those before.
16 September 2011, 07:27 AM
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use it for HFT and vermin, with 6-24 x 50 scope on it
19 September 2011, 04:09 PM
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Mankind and human beings have always been hunters throughout our evolution. Just because we generally no longer have to hunt by necessity doesn't mean that we have lost the instinct.
We are part of Mother Nature ourselves so do have a part to play. We now rely on our food being served to us in convenient shrink wrapped packages and most people in the modern world would be unable to survive without this. We have become so distanced from the source of our food that we don't even know what is in half the junk we eat or where it came from.
We are part of Mother Nature ourselves so do have a part to play. We now rely on our food being served to us in convenient shrink wrapped packages and most people in the modern world would be unable to survive without this. We have become so distanced from the source of our food that we don't even know what is in half the junk we eat or where it came from.
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If you wish to find out more about PCP rifles you should join the following forum. http://www.airgunbbs.com/
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20 September 2011, 06:29 AM
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I have a choice of Theoben Rapid 17 .177 calibre, BSA Superten .22 calibre and Falcon Hawk .177 calibre. I also have a Theoben Taunus gas ram in .22 calibre.
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If you wish to find out more about PCP rifles you should join the following forum. http://www.airgunbbs.com/
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If you wish to find out more about PCP rifles you should join the following forum. http://www.airgunbbs.com/
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