Flippin' eck. Somebody is a bit happy with the thread lock button today.
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Jesus, i bet everyone who made spelling mistakes, had dump valves or non working roof vents were banned on there introduction thread knowing this site lol
Cheers for reply mate
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I am also for Pro-activeness on the site, but to date, it seems SNET wanted to push everything under the rug and hoped it would go away ..... Which it doesn't, it just festers like an old boil until it bursts as it gets angrier
The big issue here was a certain trader suggesting there had been an engine swap, as a get out.
What has been said above by Pete etc is bang on.
The big issue here was a certain trader suggesting there had been an engine swap, as a get out.
What has been said above by Pete etc is bang on.
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Guys, I think we should all appreciate Ali-B's positive suggestion.
And, refrain from posting further, until Ross has answered the suggested questions.
In truth, whilst fully understanding and agreeing with the feelings on injustice, continuing to go on about it, isn't helping.
Once Ross has factually answered the questions it will be very clear what has happened and explain fully why we all feel the way we do.
I would also then expect the Moderators to allow those facts to be clearly published.
And, refrain from posting further, until Ross has answered the suggested questions.
In truth, whilst fully understanding and agreeing with the feelings on injustice, continuing to go on about it, isn't helping.
Once Ross has factually answered the questions it will be very clear what has happened and explain fully why we all feel the way we do.
I would also then expect the Moderators to allow those facts to be clearly published.
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Lee, not all the questions will be answered. The project thread fails to mention the car was under warranty when the engine failed. Hence many of the posts saying, it was Ross's problem.
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ALi-B In attempt to be proactive. Question to be posed:
What warranty was given or implied?
I was told 1 week (I know legally it's 3 months).
Did the buyer have the car inspected?
No - The car had under 11k miles on the clock, the trader had imported it himself, sold it to a forum member RCWhite, then bought it back and sold it to me - why would I even consider that the engine had been changed TWICE in 11k miles!?!? My old WRX completed 90kmiles without many issues, why would a Spec C have issues at 11kmiles??? Thought the trader was a reputable trusted dealer - how wrong was I!!!
If so by whom?
N/A
Did the buyer ask if the engine had been rebuilt?
The car was advertised and sold as an ORIGINAL 11kmile Spec-C, why would I think the engine had been rebuilt after 2-3 weeks of PM's, emails and phone calls??? - Read the project thread!!!
Was the engine mapped for use in the UK?
Was modified by RCM and mapped by Bob Rawle by the previous owner RCWhite - Read the project thread!!!
Was it used on a race track?
Done 6 SLOW laps of the ring (I don't know the ring and as a result it was driven VERY cautiously) - I've done many trackdays and it was not driven at ANY time near track speeds, as already mentioned, I completed 90kmiles in my old modified WRX which I drove to the ring on 3 occasions and completed 11 or 12 trackdays in - why would a Spec C (which was develpoed at the ring) have any problems being driven SLOWLY around the ring??
If so, did it have its service regime and oil grade altered to cope with the
above extreme operating conditions.
Mocom checked the car over and changed all fluids including engine oil/filter, gearbox oil and diff oil for good quality Motul 300V before going to the ring - I have the invoice.
Was the seller not given the opertunity to look at the car and rectify the fault from the outset?
He had plenty of chances and offers to come look at the car but declined, legally it is my right to take it to a specialist of my choice in agreement with the dealer, which was done - He was not taking the car AND having my money, Manchester is a long way from Essex - Read the project thread!!!
Why did the first garage not strip/diagnose/quote/repair the engine?
Mocom carried out a compression test and took the engine out, found the issues stated in the projects thread on a first look basis - Read the projects thread!!!
Is this garage still operating?
Just!
Why did it take so long for it to get to the second garage?
Mocom had a family member pass away, this was relayed to the dealer who was kept up to date on the progress/problems - Read the project thread!!!
Upon being taken to the second garage, was complete or in a basket case when the second garage recieved it (i.e already in bits)?
The engine was complete when the second specialist recieved it, I took it off the engine stand at Mocom (YES IT WAS THE SAME ENGINE THAT WAS SOLD WITH THE CAR!!!!) and put it in the boot of my Focus and drove it straight to the second specialist - Read the project thread!!!
Why wasn't the new engine not built like for like?
Isn't that my choice??? The car had been off the road for months by this time, the dealer totally shafted me so I decided to get it built properly and of a better standard - Read the project thread!!!
What diffenece in price is this from a standard engine?
Depends if you mean a second hand pile of cr4p of unknown quantity or a brand new Subaru JDM engine - Subaru quoted me over £5k for new imported parts to repair/replace the engine 'like for like', the car is a limited edition Spec-C, I paid a lot of money to purchase the best one I could get from a 'so called' reputable dealer, I'm not sticking any old pile of cr4p in it!! Who in their right mind would buy it if I ever try to sell up!?!? - The dealer obviously didn't seem to have a problem with doing this though!!
What was the cause of the second engine failure?
It was a pile of **** built by a retard - Read the project thread!!!
Has this been rectified?
Yes, with no help from the dealer!! - Read the project thread!!!
Would this fault be noticeable to the driver before it manifested in total failure?
I would have thought so, but evidently not, the engine felt fine to me (7.5years and 90kmiles experiance of
Scoobs!) and no CEL light ever came up - Read the project thread!!!
How would the seller be expected to notice it BEFORE failure (symptoms) ?
The dealer admitted to buying the car with a faulty engine and getting the engine rebuilt "spent £2k changing the pistons" but never told me before or during the sale! - Read the project thread!!!
And if diagnosable prior to total failure, what precaution should a seller take to check for this?
How do I answer this?? The dealer deliberately brought a Spec C with a knackered engine, he then 'fixed' it on the cheap and sold it on as an immaculate and 'original' car, he knew what he had done, was doing and will probably do again, yet was totally happy to shaft me and charge me top dollar for a car with a shagged engine built by monkies - Read the project thread!!!
Are there any other items on the car other than the engine that are of in need of attention?
Battery died the day after I got it home - this was mentioned during the purchase as it needed a jump start for the test drive. Front disks had big lips on them which only lasted around 500miles.
Were these outlined by the seller?
The battery was but he reckoned it would be okay after driving the 300 odd miles home - I on the other hand used to be an electrician and knew otherwise, this was proved the very next morning when it wouldn't turn over!
Further questions:
Is the seller private or trade?
Dealer - Read the prject thread!!!
Who imported the car?
The same dealer originally imported it!
Has the car been used in the UK prior to the sale
If so, by whom and for how long.
Yes, RCWhite
What fuel/ignition map did the engine have prior to sale?
Ask Bob Rawle
When was the first engine rebuilt?
The previous owner would not respond to my contacts, the dealer is STILL lying, I was told by RCM that whaen it blew up, RCWhite took it 'elsewhere' to get it repaired - no one will tell me where it went, what engine was fitted or what was done/fixd/bodged!!
Did the builder give a warranty?
How do I know??? It was on it's second engine before I even saw it!!
If not, why not?
Ask the dealer, sure he will lie to you as he did to me!!
Why was it rebuilt?
As above, I have no idea!
Was the cause of failure properly diagnosed?
As above!
If so, what was the cause?
As above!
What components were replaced?
As above!
Were they replaced like for like?
As above!
And were they new or used parts?
As above!
What checks were performed prior to sale?
The dealer knew it was shagged when he bought it for a cheap price, I'm sure him and his monkey mechanics didn't care what was wrong with it, they just bodged it together as cheap as possible to sell it!
And what was found from these checks?
The dealer bought it, how do I know? He won't even tell me what he 'supposedly' fixed, or who done the 'bodging'!
With the exception to the engine, what other work was carried out to the car?
No idea, every single breath he breathes is a lie as far as I'm concerned so why should/would I believe a thing he says!?!?!?
Final questions:
Which user have direct involvment with this car?
RCWhite
And what involvement is that?
He owned it, modified it, blew it up, got it running (badly) then sold it to the dealer!!
Ali - I'm sorry if I sound a bit 'off' with my replies, I respect and understand where your coming from with the questions, but to be totally honest with you, I am getting really fed up with people not reading the WORDS in my project thread, most of the 'put downs' I have recieved are mainly because people are just looking at the pretty pictures of what is left of the bodged engine that was in my car when the dealer sold it to me!! If people actually READ the project thread then they would know that I am telling the truth!! Terminator X keeps banging on about how much he wants the dealers babies, but the fact is he bought 2 NEWLY imported cars from the dealer and has never bought a 2nd hand car from him - totally different set of circumstances to mine!!
Lots of questions have been asked and things have been stated by the dealer and others to try and get me to slip up and say something different to the details in the project thread - this will never happen as EVERYTHING IS FACT!!!! It is all true, whether people want to believe me or the lying scumbag dealer is up to them - the fact remains I have been totally shafted by this turd and it will never get resolved as it is all finished and done with and as the WORDS in the project thread shows, he has got out scott free by a technicallity which was raised by the 1st tuner not doing as I requested or paid for!!
Further more - please do not keep stating that I need to see the dealer face to face off Snet to sort it out (unless your trying to get a reaction out of me so you have an excuse to delete yet another thread), I can understand your frustrations with everyone posting things that you feel need to be deleted, infractioned, but this issue has been resolved - the result was/is that I have been totally shafted by this piece of **** scumbag dealer and thats the end of it!! I don't see why I can't have a projects thread, nor do I see why I can't let people know how bad a trader he is to protect them from going through the same/similar problems!!
One last point - you and everyone else knows who he is, what he does and what he sells, even though he is not an authorised trader on here, (he used to be!!) he is allowed to sell things openly (without using the actual words), yet if someone mentions they are selling or advertising ANYTHING, they get told off, their thread/post gets deleted and they have to pay to be an authorised advertiser - you keep deleting things and wondering why everyone gets the hump and are making a big thing of this, but even from an outsiders point of veiw, it looks like Snet is trying to protect him and constantly licking his ring piece!
If you want any evidence to back up any of my FACT's, then I'm willing to bring it to you in person so you can go through the whole lot, PM's, emails, phonecalls, invoices, engine report, etc...
I have copied all of my answers here, I know I have said nothing libelous so I expect this post to be left alone!!
Still yet to recieve an infraction so looking forward to it
xx
What warranty was given or implied?
I was told 1 week (I know legally it's 3 months).
Did the buyer have the car inspected?
No - The car had under 11k miles on the clock, the trader had imported it himself, sold it to a forum member RCWhite, then bought it back and sold it to me - why would I even consider that the engine had been changed TWICE in 11k miles!?!? My old WRX completed 90kmiles without many issues, why would a Spec C have issues at 11kmiles??? Thought the trader was a reputable trusted dealer - how wrong was I!!!
If so by whom?
N/A
Did the buyer ask if the engine had been rebuilt?
The car was advertised and sold as an ORIGINAL 11kmile Spec-C, why would I think the engine had been rebuilt after 2-3 weeks of PM's, emails and phone calls??? - Read the project thread!!!
Was the engine mapped for use in the UK?
Was modified by RCM and mapped by Bob Rawle by the previous owner RCWhite - Read the project thread!!!
Was it used on a race track?
Done 6 SLOW laps of the ring (I don't know the ring and as a result it was driven VERY cautiously) - I've done many trackdays and it was not driven at ANY time near track speeds, as already mentioned, I completed 90kmiles in my old modified WRX which I drove to the ring on 3 occasions and completed 11 or 12 trackdays in - why would a Spec C (which was develpoed at the ring) have any problems being driven SLOWLY around the ring??
If so, did it have its service regime and oil grade altered to cope with the
above extreme operating conditions.
Mocom checked the car over and changed all fluids including engine oil/filter, gearbox oil and diff oil for good quality Motul 300V before going to the ring - I have the invoice.
Was the seller not given the opertunity to look at the car and rectify the fault from the outset?
He had plenty of chances and offers to come look at the car but declined, legally it is my right to take it to a specialist of my choice in agreement with the dealer, which was done - He was not taking the car AND having my money, Manchester is a long way from Essex - Read the project thread!!!
Why did the first garage not strip/diagnose/quote/repair the engine?
Mocom carried out a compression test and took the engine out, found the issues stated in the projects thread on a first look basis - Read the projects thread!!!
Is this garage still operating?
Just!
Why did it take so long for it to get to the second garage?
Mocom had a family member pass away, this was relayed to the dealer who was kept up to date on the progress/problems - Read the project thread!!!
Upon being taken to the second garage, was complete or in a basket case when the second garage recieved it (i.e already in bits)?
The engine was complete when the second specialist recieved it, I took it off the engine stand at Mocom (YES IT WAS THE SAME ENGINE THAT WAS SOLD WITH THE CAR!!!!) and put it in the boot of my Focus and drove it straight to the second specialist - Read the project thread!!!
Why wasn't the new engine not built like for like?
Isn't that my choice??? The car had been off the road for months by this time, the dealer totally shafted me so I decided to get it built properly and of a better standard - Read the project thread!!!
What diffenece in price is this from a standard engine?
Depends if you mean a second hand pile of cr4p of unknown quantity or a brand new Subaru JDM engine - Subaru quoted me over £5k for new imported parts to repair/replace the engine 'like for like', the car is a limited edition Spec-C, I paid a lot of money to purchase the best one I could get from a 'so called' reputable dealer, I'm not sticking any old pile of cr4p in it!! Who in their right mind would buy it if I ever try to sell up!?!? - The dealer obviously didn't seem to have a problem with doing this though!!
What was the cause of the second engine failure?
It was a pile of **** built by a retard - Read the project thread!!!
Has this been rectified?
Yes, with no help from the dealer!! - Read the project thread!!!
Would this fault be noticeable to the driver before it manifested in total failure?
I would have thought so, but evidently not, the engine felt fine to me (7.5years and 90kmiles experiance of
Scoobs!) and no CEL light ever came up - Read the project thread!!!
How would the seller be expected to notice it BEFORE failure (symptoms) ?
The dealer admitted to buying the car with a faulty engine and getting the engine rebuilt "spent £2k changing the pistons" but never told me before or during the sale! - Read the project thread!!!
And if diagnosable prior to total failure, what precaution should a seller take to check for this?
How do I answer this?? The dealer deliberately brought a Spec C with a knackered engine, he then 'fixed' it on the cheap and sold it on as an immaculate and 'original' car, he knew what he had done, was doing and will probably do again, yet was totally happy to shaft me and charge me top dollar for a car with a shagged engine built by monkies - Read the project thread!!!
Are there any other items on the car other than the engine that are of in need of attention?
Battery died the day after I got it home - this was mentioned during the purchase as it needed a jump start for the test drive. Front disks had big lips on them which only lasted around 500miles.
Were these outlined by the seller?
The battery was but he reckoned it would be okay after driving the 300 odd miles home - I on the other hand used to be an electrician and knew otherwise, this was proved the very next morning when it wouldn't turn over!
Further questions:
Is the seller private or trade?
Dealer - Read the prject thread!!!
Who imported the car?
The same dealer originally imported it!
Has the car been used in the UK prior to the sale
If so, by whom and for how long.
Yes, RCWhite
What fuel/ignition map did the engine have prior to sale?
Ask Bob Rawle
When was the first engine rebuilt?
The previous owner would not respond to my contacts, the dealer is STILL lying, I was told by RCM that whaen it blew up, RCWhite took it 'elsewhere' to get it repaired - no one will tell me where it went, what engine was fitted or what was done/fixd/bodged!!
Did the builder give a warranty?
How do I know??? It was on it's second engine before I even saw it!!
If not, why not?
Ask the dealer, sure he will lie to you as he did to me!!
Why was it rebuilt?
As above, I have no idea!
Was the cause of failure properly diagnosed?
As above!
If so, what was the cause?
As above!
What components were replaced?
As above!
Were they replaced like for like?
As above!
And were they new or used parts?
As above!
What checks were performed prior to sale?
The dealer knew it was shagged when he bought it for a cheap price, I'm sure him and his monkey mechanics didn't care what was wrong with it, they just bodged it together as cheap as possible to sell it!
And what was found from these checks?
The dealer bought it, how do I know? He won't even tell me what he 'supposedly' fixed, or who done the 'bodging'!
With the exception to the engine, what other work was carried out to the car?
No idea, every single breath he breathes is a lie as far as I'm concerned so why should/would I believe a thing he says!?!?!?
Final questions:
Which user have direct involvment with this car?
RCWhite
And what involvement is that?
He owned it, modified it, blew it up, got it running (badly) then sold it to the dealer!!
Ali - I'm sorry if I sound a bit 'off' with my replies, I respect and understand where your coming from with the questions, but to be totally honest with you, I am getting really fed up with people not reading the WORDS in my project thread, most of the 'put downs' I have recieved are mainly because people are just looking at the pretty pictures of what is left of the bodged engine that was in my car when the dealer sold it to me!! If people actually READ the project thread then they would know that I am telling the truth!! Terminator X keeps banging on about how much he wants the dealers babies, but the fact is he bought 2 NEWLY imported cars from the dealer and has never bought a 2nd hand car from him - totally different set of circumstances to mine!!
Lots of questions have been asked and things have been stated by the dealer and others to try and get me to slip up and say something different to the details in the project thread - this will never happen as EVERYTHING IS FACT!!!! It is all true, whether people want to believe me or the lying scumbag dealer is up to them - the fact remains I have been totally shafted by this turd and it will never get resolved as it is all finished and done with and as the WORDS in the project thread shows, he has got out scott free by a technicallity which was raised by the 1st tuner not doing as I requested or paid for!!
Further more - please do not keep stating that I need to see the dealer face to face off Snet to sort it out (unless your trying to get a reaction out of me so you have an excuse to delete yet another thread), I can understand your frustrations with everyone posting things that you feel need to be deleted, infractioned, but this issue has been resolved - the result was/is that I have been totally shafted by this piece of **** scumbag dealer and thats the end of it!! I don't see why I can't have a projects thread, nor do I see why I can't let people know how bad a trader he is to protect them from going through the same/similar problems!!
One last point - you and everyone else knows who he is, what he does and what he sells, even though he is not an authorised trader on here, (he used to be!!) he is allowed to sell things openly (without using the actual words), yet if someone mentions they are selling or advertising ANYTHING, they get told off, their thread/post gets deleted and they have to pay to be an authorised advertiser - you keep deleting things and wondering why everyone gets the hump and are making a big thing of this, but even from an outsiders point of veiw, it looks like Snet is trying to protect him and constantly licking his ring piece!
If you want any evidence to back up any of my FACT's, then I'm willing to bring it to you in person so you can go through the whole lot, PM's, emails, phonecalls, invoices, engine report, etc...
I have copied all of my answers here, I know I have said nothing libelous so I expect this post to be left alone!!
Still yet to recieve an infraction so looking forward to it
xx
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I'm lead to believe there maybe a few answers in this thread here https://www.scoobynet.com/projects-4...c-content.html
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I personally think Ross's Project thread should be unlocked.
So, can the mods/admin answer Ross's questions regarding Immy and his trading status etc ?
I would ask any of the mods/admin to actually meet up with Ross in person, and you will then see how honest and decent (and slow) he is !
If you feel the need, he can sometimes be found at the Halfway House meet .... If anyone of you turn up, I'm sure we'll buy you a drink as well
So, can the mods/admin answer Ross's questions regarding Immy and his trading status etc ?
I would ask any of the mods/admin to actually meet up with Ross in person, and you will then see how honest and decent (and slow) he is !
If you feel the need, he can sometimes be found at the Halfway House meet .... If anyone of you turn up, I'm sure we'll buy you a drink as well
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Well done Ross, I hope you get a reply ASAP, although I am not hopeful of a reply or a truthful one even if it did materialise.
Having seen the 'workmanship' in the flesh and witnessed the deception made towards Ross please excuse me if I speak with a little more idea than some of the snet fanbots and armchair pundits
Chop chop Immy
Having seen the 'workmanship' in the flesh and witnessed the deception made towards Ross please excuse me if I speak with a little more idea than some of the snet fanbots and armchair pundits
Chop chop Immy
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Ok, so now having read all of the above hopefully the mods can understand why there is such respect & support for Ross & so much ill feeling towards Immy the dealer that 'shafted' him.
Having read Ross's reply, twice, it clearly shows he is a decent, honest person who was mis-sold a car. Simples!
Hopefully the Mods on Scoobynet will now stop protecting Immy, and in turn allow others to learn from Ross's misfortune?
Having read Ross's reply, twice, it clearly shows he is a decent, honest person who was mis-sold a car. Simples!
Hopefully the Mods on Scoobynet will now stop protecting Immy, and in turn allow others to learn from Ross's misfortune?