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Old Jul 31, 2011 | 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by ilogikal1
Largely because Ben Gallop has said as much himself. Extended highlights only for the races not shown live; here.

Whitmarsh claimed Ecclestone confirmed "several times" that it would be the full races but when interviewed himself (mere minutes later) Ecclestone admitted that although that's what he told Whitmarsh he was pushing for for the BBC to only show highlights.
The TV deal needs to be accepted by the teams, one thing they will insist on is full races on the BBC even for the non live ones. It's a bargaining chip and one Bernie and the BBC will have to concede.
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Old Jul 31, 2011 | 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by f1_fan
The TV deal needs to be accepted by the teams, one thing they will insist on is full races on the BBC even for the non live ones. It's a bargaining chip and one Bernie and the BBC will have to concede.
Lets hope so.

Lets also hope the BBC don't start showing the races late at night. Don't want it starting at 11pm onwards, as I have to be up at 6:30am every morning for work.
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Old Jul 31, 2011 | 04:37 PM
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You'd think the loss of Johnathon Woss from the Beeb's payroll would have covered the costs for the BBC to host all the races.

But if needs must; these on the payroll need teh chop:

Bin Graham Norton (£2million per year approx)
Lineker (£2mil)
Hansen (£1.4 mil)
Anne Robinson (£1mill)
Moyles (£0.6mill)
And Fiona Bruce needs her pay cut too (one trick pony...as demonstrated in the Duke interview; stick to the autocues luv).

That should more or less cover it

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Old Jul 31, 2011 | 04:43 PM
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/for...Wimbledon.html

I know what I would rather see as I'm not really into tennis!

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Old Jul 31, 2011 | 09:33 PM
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one less thing i seldom watch

- Murdoch can swing for his revenue stream as far as im concerned
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Old Jul 31, 2011 | 09:36 PM
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I know my friends in America watch the BBC coverage.
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Old Jul 31, 2011 | 09:41 PM
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Originally Posted by stilover
Lets hope so.

Lets also hope the BBC don't start showing the races late at night. Don't want it starting at 11pm onwards, as I have to be up at 6:30am every morning for work.
Highlights have been on bbc3 at 7 pm.

Originally Posted by Dougmy06wrx

I know what I would rather see as I'm not really into tennis!

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Doesn't matter what you think. Viewing figures is more important. For what it's worth I'm a huge fan of Wimbledon and would not want to lose
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Old Jul 31, 2011 | 10:37 PM
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Originally Posted by CREWJ
I know my friends in America watch the BBC coverage.
I don't know how as it is not legally broadcast there. F1 in the US is covered by Speed and Fox, neither have a BBC commentary agreement.
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Old Jul 31, 2011 | 10:38 PM
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Originally Posted by davyboy
Doesn't matter what you think. Viewing figures is more important. For what it's worth I'm a huge fan of Wimbledon and would not want to lose
Does Wimbledon get higher viewing figures than F1?
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Old Aug 1, 2011 | 06:16 AM
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Some of it yes. However, BBC supply all the coverage for all the other networks so I'd imagine that makes it more profit.
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Old Aug 1, 2011 | 08:39 AM
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Originally Posted by f1_fan
Does Wimbledon get higher viewing figures than F1?
That would depend how the figures are worked out. BBC show about 10 hours of Wimbledon coverage a day split over both BBC1, 2 and HD so over such a long period they would inevitably get more viewers.

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Old Aug 1, 2011 | 08:56 AM
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Originally Posted by f1_fan
I don't know how as it is not legally broadcast there. F1 in the US is covered by Speed and Fox, neither have a BBC commentary agreement.
I'm not exactly sure how but when they came over here they said they watched it and knew all of the BBC team and said they preferred it to the american drivel they push out.

They probably stream it because of the better coverage.
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Old Aug 1, 2011 | 09:13 AM
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Originally Posted by CREWJ
I'm not exactly sure how but when they came over here they said they watched it and knew all of the BBC team and said they preferred it to the american drivel they push out.

They probably stream it because of the better coverage.
Yes, thinking about it after I wrote that I thought they probably use a proxy TV service to get the UK TV channels. That's what a few people I know used to do in Aus before One HD picked up the live races.
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Old Aug 1, 2011 | 09:14 AM
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Originally Posted by davyboy
Some of it yes. However, BBC supply all the coverage for all the other networks so I'd imagine that makes it more profit.
OK I get that, makes sense.

Originally Posted by Chip
That would depend how the figures are worked out. BBC show about 10 hours of Wimbledon coverage a day split over both BBC1, 2 and HD so over such a long period they would inevitably get more viewers.

Chip
So we need F1 on for 10 hours a day than? Excellent
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Old Aug 1, 2011 | 09:30 AM
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I'd happily get rid of Wimbledon TBH from the BBC.

Pretty soon it's just gonna be women football, womens golf, and a bit of athletics let's be honest.
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Old Aug 1, 2011 | 09:30 AM
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I'd happily get rid of Wimbledon TBH from the BBC.

Pretty soon it's just gonna be women football, womens golf, and a bit of athletics let's be honest.
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Old Aug 1, 2011 | 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted by tony de wonderful
I'd happily get rid of Wimbledon TBH from the BBC.

Pretty soon it's just gonna be women football, womens golf, and a bit of athletics let's be honest.
Tony, don't forget about the swimming!

I can't believe they are getting rid of F1 to keep that drivell.
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Old Aug 1, 2011 | 12:03 PM
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I have always enjoyed watching Wimbledon on tv. It is a well produced programme.

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Old Aug 1, 2011 | 12:13 PM
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im not surprised about them wanting to keep wimbeldon, but i find the golf a surprise, i cant imagine its realy that popular?
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Old Aug 1, 2011 | 12:20 PM
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I think there's room for all sports on the Beeb, even footie (bores me).
Part of the problem , I think, is that we have become accustom to being able to watch the whole F1 series on terestrial TV. The same can't be said for footie, or golf, or tennis, or most other sports. You just don't see every single event in any other sport.

Don't get me wrong, I love F1 and I think it's a backward step for F1 fans and the Beeb as well, but perhaps we're just getting a fair share of viewing time.
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Old Aug 3, 2011 | 03:19 PM
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It was stated that Sky will show no adverts during the races.

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Old Aug 3, 2011 | 03:26 PM
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I noted Sky are saying 'No ads During the racing'. However I bet they will show them during a red/yellow flag though. That's what ITV used to do.
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Old Aug 3, 2011 | 04:37 PM
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Also right before the start and immediately after the end and all through the build-up. No thanks!
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Old Aug 3, 2011 | 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted by ALi-B
I noted Sky are saying 'No ads During the racing'. However I bet they will show them during a red/yellow flag though. That's what ITV used to do.
I read somewhere that there would be no adverts during the race "whilst the cars were still in motion" (or something equally as innocuous), so red flag perhaps but not under yellows or the pace car, etc. Having said that though, I can't for the life of me find the source of this so there is a small chance I may have imagined it...
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Old Aug 3, 2011 | 07:14 PM
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The editor's replies on Sky sport's website comment pages says 'no adverts during races': http://www.skysports.com/story/0,,12433_7066182,00.html

Interpret that how you like. And don't forget to leave your own negative comments

Personally I quantify the whole event as a race from start to finish (i.e the point at which the cars enter and leave the track). Broadcasters may see that differently, certainly the manner in which ITV cut to adverts was highly annoying.

Thank god for V+...Let it run for 30mins on live pause then sit down and FF all the ads.

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Old Aug 3, 2011 | 07:18 PM
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Boycott Sky, work out and share scores based on BBC coverage only, start a revolution.
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Old Aug 4, 2011 | 11:11 AM
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I shall look forward to the better quality coverage from Sky.

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Old Aug 4, 2011 | 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Leslie
I shall look forward to the better quality coverage from Sky.

Les
But how do know that this is going to be the case.
At present, F1 on the BBC is run by F1 geeks for F1 geeks.
I can see Sky taking a very different approach.
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Old Aug 4, 2011 | 11:21 AM
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I'm just going to wait and see what happens. Pointless complaining about the quality until we see the competition.
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