BBC F1 coverage cut
29 July 2011, 10:53 AM
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No. When the BBC show the race live, they'll also show it online as well. If they only have highlights, the race will not be live on the website. It's 50% of races on al BBC formats ( excluding radio which will have them all) and the remaining 50% are highlights only.
29 July 2011, 10:55 AM
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Personally, that was about when I started following F1.
I truely hated it when the adverts came on and made a point of not buying anything that was advertised in those slots.
It's like football when you have half time. It is ****ing race for god sake.
May be we should make all the driver's stop where they are on the track for 20 mins every race.
29 July 2011, 10:58 AM
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29 July 2011, 11:07 AM
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I can see this running and running. Protests, boycotts and may be some teams threatening to pull out.
Surely the teams won't be happy about the move. Their brands have been readily available to everyone in the UK. Now what?
29 July 2011, 11:08 AM
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Quote from the BBC web site story:
"Races shown live on BBC TV will include the British Grand Prix at Silverstone, the Monaco GP and the concluding race of the season."
What's the point of that? Who will decide which will be the best races to air live? The slim chance of a wet race at Valencia might turn it into one of the best races of the year, and yet most people would opt to drop that one perhaps as being boring.
It will be like being told you can only read the even numbered pages of a really good book.
FFS pointless excersise or what
"Races shown live on BBC TV will include the British Grand Prix at Silverstone, the Monaco GP and the concluding race of the season."
What's the point of that? Who will decide which will be the best races to air live? The slim chance of a wet race at Valencia might turn it into one of the best races of the year, and yet most people would opt to drop that one perhaps as being boring.
It will be like being told you can only read the even numbered pages of a really good book.
FFS pointless excersise or what
29 July 2011, 11:23 AM
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I've been following F1 since I was a kid from 1977 onwards the worst period of coverage was the ITV years, absolutely no doubt about it, pure ****e. BBC always did it better and continue to do so.
The best coverage has been the last few years, the team at the BBC is top draw, the build up to the race with all it's bits and pieces is fantastic then you have the red button.
The arguments on the radio say that Sky will give it the magic treatment and take it to an other level, yes they have done wonders for Football and Cricket in this country but F1 aint broke and doesn't need fixing imo and how much better can they really make it.
Personally I cant see it being any better than what the Beeb have achieved in recent years. For me Sky dont do Motor sports at all well and I dread to think who will be fronting it (probably that annoying **** that used to do the bikes and Jardine)
People moan about the beeb, but in truth they do a fantastic job with what they get from us the license payers, TV,Radio,Internet are all excellent.
The Beeb cant afford Bernies greed and I cant knock them for this, they tried their best and it's a sad compromise.
How long until Wimbledon, The Olympics, The World Cup and the Grand Nat go to Sky, so much for protecting certain sports for terrestrial TV in this country, one by one the govt's in power let them slip through the net.
I have SS already but still dont want to see this great sport "Skytized" and adverts and sponsors names splattered everywhere. a sad sad day for F1 fans.
The best coverage has been the last few years, the team at the BBC is top draw, the build up to the race with all it's bits and pieces is fantastic then you have the red button.
The arguments on the radio say that Sky will give it the magic treatment and take it to an other level, yes they have done wonders for Football and Cricket in this country but F1 aint broke and doesn't need fixing imo and how much better can they really make it.
Personally I cant see it being any better than what the Beeb have achieved in recent years. For me Sky dont do Motor sports at all well and I dread to think who will be fronting it (probably that annoying **** that used to do the bikes and Jardine)
People moan about the beeb, but in truth they do a fantastic job with what they get from us the license payers, TV,Radio,Internet are all excellent.
The Beeb cant afford Bernies greed and I cant knock them for this, they tried their best and it's a sad compromise.
How long until Wimbledon, The Olympics, The World Cup and the Grand Nat go to Sky, so much for protecting certain sports for terrestrial TV in this country, one by one the govt's in power let them slip through the net.
I have SS already but still dont want to see this great sport "Skytized" and adverts and sponsors names splattered everywhere. a sad sad day for F1 fans.
29 July 2011, 11:26 AM
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Quote from the BBC web site story:
"Races shown live on BBC TV will include the British Grand Prix at Silverstone, the Monaco GP and the concluding race of the season."
What's the point of that? Who will decide which will be the best races to air live? The slim chance of a wet race at Valencia might turn it into one of the best races of the year, and yet most people would opt to drop that one perhaps as being boring.
It will be like being told you can only read the even numbered pages of a really good book.
FFS pointless excersise or what
"Races shown live on BBC TV will include the British Grand Prix at Silverstone, the Monaco GP and the concluding race of the season."
What's the point of that? Who will decide which will be the best races to air live? The slim chance of a wet race at Valencia might turn it into one of the best races of the year, and yet most people would opt to drop that one perhaps as being boring.
It will be like being told you can only read the even numbered pages of a really good book.
FFS pointless excersise or what
As much as it p&sses me off, I will probably end up paying for sky sports. But, instead of them sticking to a pre-determined channel like sky sports 1, 2 or 3, the cheeky *******s will chop and change thoughout the year, meaning you can't just have one channel at a reduced rate, you have to buy the complete package. And then because movies are only an extra £5, you may as well have that too............All for just £60 a month.
Bargain.
29 July 2011, 11:27 AM
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I think it's going to have a huge knock on for English fans. I read everywhere that fans won't pay for sky sports to watch it, my father in law is an F1 fan and doesn't even have sky, by brother lives at home and my dad won't pay for sky sports! Lots of English fans will simply not be able to watch it anymore
Way to go Bernie!
Way to go Bernie!
29 July 2011, 11:28 AM
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Would the teams care if the reduction in viewers was compensated by the inclusion of paying viewers?
Would the teams see sponsorship fees reduce as the amount of viewers is reduced?
Couldn't the BBC ask for a premium from viewers to keep F1 on the BBC? The license fee is frozen but why not allow full coverage for all races on the website for a fee? I'd be happy with that as my PC is hooked to the TV anyway.
Would the teams see sponsorship fees reduce as the amount of viewers is reduced?
Couldn't the BBC ask for a premium from viewers to keep F1 on the BBC? The license fee is frozen but why not allow full coverage for all races on the website for a fee? I'd be happy with that as my PC is hooked to the TV anyway.
29 July 2011, 11:31 AM
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almost makes me want to see the pictures of Bernie again from last year with that whopper of a black eye when he was mugged. would miss Martin and Davids commentry and possibly even the leprechauns dress sense.
29 July 2011, 11:35 AM
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I agree, and IMO football is alot worse for it these days; it all about the event, the politics, the commercialism, the players, their WAGs, the mangers, the commentator backchat moreso than the actual game itself. Its all bulls**t, just blow the whistle and kick the sodding ball!
Although the mugs who carry on paying out higher and higher subs fees for all this drawn out 'event padding' may disagree.
F1 has gone the same way, but top level motor racing has always been a rich boys play sport so the 'event' has always been part and parcel of the sport, all thats happened and its been opened up more to public view. Still, all the pre race speculation and politics means nothing until the start lights go out.
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29 July 2011, 11:37 AM
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Yes but doesn't the BBC broadcast to quite a few other countries? Viewing figures quoted in the Times in June this year give peak figures of over 8 million. Brundle & Co are always saying hello to overseas viewers. If the BBC coverage is cut it will surely have a wider impact than just the UK.
29 July 2011, 11:40 AM
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Yes but doesn't the BBC broadcast to quite a few other countries? Viewing figures quoted in the Times in June this year give peak figures of over 8 million. Brundle & Co are always saying hello to overseas viewers. If the BBC coverage is cut it will surely have a wider impact than just the UK.
What a **** up! 
29 July 2011, 11:44 AM
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**** Bernie! **** the BBC! **** Sky! 
One thing that gets my goat about teh BBC is the license fee keeps going up but the BBC is less and less relevant each year. Now it's only Top Gear left worth watching.
One thing that gets my goat about teh BBC is the license fee keeps going up but the BBC is less and less relevant each year. Now it's only Top Gear left worth watching.
29 July 2011, 11:44 AM
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29 July 2011, 11:47 AM
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First off, there is no way that the BBC can put forward the amount of money that sky can and they wont be allowed to get into a bidding war so its not relay down to the bbc.
thing is though, 3 letter's W,R,C .
look how backward that has gone now, does anyone still watch it? that went to ppv in the uk and viewing numbers dropped like a stone, sponsers pulled out, teams pulled out and its pretty much a second rate motorsport now.
so i can see F1 pretty much being a second rate sport come 2018.
thing is though, 3 letter's W,R,C .
look how backward that has gone now, does anyone still watch it? that went to ppv in the uk and viewing numbers dropped like a stone, sponsers pulled out, teams pulled out and its pretty much a second rate motorsport now.
so i can see F1 pretty much being a second rate sport come 2018.
29 July 2011, 11:48 AM
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I agree, and IMO football is alot worse for it these days; it all about the event, the politics, the commercialism, the players, their WAGs, the mangers, the commentator backchat moreso than the actual game itself. Its all bulls**t, just blow the whistle and kick the sodding ball!
Although the mugs who carry on paying out higher and higher subs fees for all this drawn out 'event padding' may disagree.
F1 has gone the same way, but top level motor racing has always been a rich boys play sport so the 'event' has always been part and parcel of the sport, all thats happened and its been opened up more to public view. Still, all the pre race speculation and politics means nothing until the start lights go out.
Although the mugs who carry on paying out higher and higher subs fees for all this drawn out 'event padding' may disagree.
F1 has gone the same way, but top level motor racing has always been a rich boys play sport so the 'event' has always been part and parcel of the sport, all thats happened and its been opened up more to public view. Still, all the pre race speculation and politics means nothing until the start lights go out.
British Boxing was really vital and relevant back when it was on ITV in the 90's and you have Benn and Eubank doing their thing. Now it's **** and I couldn't give a toss about hyped Bums like Hatton (though he has retired now).
Hopefully British Touring Cars can stay on freeview. It's not a bad format.
29 July 2011, 11:55 AM
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You'll have F1 drivers dissing each other and hitting each other with folding chairs before long.
This is a great opportunity for Motors TV to take all the F1 fallout. V8 Supercars is very entertaining. ALMS series is pretty cool to watch and we can relate to them as they look vaguely like road cars.
Maybe get more cameras at UK based events. You never know, F1 moving to subscription could really help more homegrown UK series on the TV.
29 July 2011, 12:00 PM
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29 July 2011, 12:07 PM
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Only in the UK! here in Germany it is on terrestrial TV so nothing is gona change here, and unless other countries suddenly decided to put it on PPV then not much is gona change there either. It is only the Brits that are going to lose out as usual.
