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Old Jul 29, 2011 | 10:53 AM
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So the BBC will only actually show highlights on TV itself? The "live" coverage is online only.

The BBC did this before when they had F1 - do you remember? They only started showinng highlights of races.
No. When the BBC show the race live, they'll also show it online as well. If they only have highlights, the race will not be live on the website. It's 50% of races on al BBC formats ( excluding radio which will have them all) and the remaining 50% are highlights only.
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Old Jul 29, 2011 | 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by EddScott
So the BBC will only actually show highlights on TV itself? The "live" coverage is online only.

The BBC did this before when they had F1 - do you remember? They only started showinng highlights of races.
Must have been before 1997 when ITV got the rights.
Personally, that was about when I started following F1.
I truely hated it when the adverts came on and made a point of not buying anything that was advertised in those slots.
It's like football when you have half time. It is ****ing race for god sake.
May be we should make all the driver's stop where they are on the track for 20 mins every race.
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Old Jul 29, 2011 | 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Dirk Diggler 75
The BBC cannot expect every licence payer to subsidise it when all they show is shiite.

Trouble is common sense can never prevail in a bullshat organisation that has been spoonfed by the public for so long.........

Funny that; I end up watching BBC channels more often than all of the commercial/subscription channels put together.

If they got rid of Eastenders, My Family, and all the 'Have I got news for you repeats' that would be progress.
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Old Jul 29, 2011 | 10:58 AM
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"Bernie Ecclestone warns selling F1 to Sky would be "suicide"

and in todays article,

Formula 1 boss Bernie Ecclestone told BBC Sport: "It's super for F1. It will mean a lot more coverage for the sport.
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Old Jul 29, 2011 | 10:59 AM
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RTL Deutshland which shows F1 for free.
Oh yes Kai Abel what a quality F1 commentator
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Old Jul 29, 2011 | 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by markb_s1
what a load of crap.

I've been getting really into F1 over the last 3 or 4 years, and although I do have sky, I dont' have sky sports. not upgrading the package just for the F1. nooooo way!
Exactly! I'm the same because nothing else on sky sports is of interest so I'm not paying for sky sports just to watch the F1! I'm out

Looks like I'll be watching more motogp, superbikes and touring cars
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Old Jul 29, 2011 | 11:02 AM
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My god, such a perfect example of how meaningless Bernie's words are. The man has no integrity whatsoever.
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Old Jul 29, 2011 | 11:07 AM
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My god, such a perfect example of how meaningless Bernie's words are. The man has no integrity whatsoever.
Unless you a pocket full of £ notes!
I can see this running and running. Protests, boycotts and may be some teams threatening to pull out.

Surely the teams won't be happy about the move. Their brands have been readily available to everyone in the UK. Now what?
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Old Jul 29, 2011 | 11:08 AM
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Quote from the BBC web site story:
"Races shown live on BBC TV will include the British Grand Prix at Silverstone, the Monaco GP and the concluding race of the season."
What's the point of that? Who will decide which will be the best races to air live? The slim chance of a wet race at Valencia might turn it into one of the best races of the year, and yet most people would opt to drop that one perhaps as being boring.
It will be like being told you can only read the even numbered pages of a really good book.
FFS pointless excersise or what
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Old Jul 29, 2011 | 11:23 AM
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I've been following F1 since I was a kid from 1977 onwards the worst period of coverage was the ITV years, absolutely no doubt about it, pure ****e. BBC always did it better and continue to do so.

The best coverage has been the last few years, the team at the BBC is top draw, the build up to the race with all it's bits and pieces is fantastic then you have the red button.

The arguments on the radio say that Sky will give it the magic treatment and take it to an other level, yes they have done wonders for Football and Cricket in this country but F1 aint broke and doesn't need fixing imo and how much better can they really make it.

Personally I cant see it being any better than what the Beeb have achieved in recent years. For me Sky dont do Motor sports at all well and I dread to think who will be fronting it (probably that annoying **** that used to do the bikes and Jardine)

People moan about the beeb, but in truth they do a fantastic job with what they get from us the license payers, TV,Radio,Internet are all excellent.

The Beeb cant afford Bernies greed and I cant knock them for this, they tried their best and it's a sad compromise.

How long until Wimbledon, The Olympics, The World Cup and the Grand Nat go to Sky, so much for protecting certain sports for terrestrial TV in this country, one by one the govt's in power let them slip through the net.

I have SS already but still dont want to see this great sport "Skytized" and adverts and sponsors names splattered everywhere. a sad sad day for F1 fans.
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Old Jul 29, 2011 | 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Blue by You
Quote from the BBC web site story:
"Races shown live on BBC TV will include the British Grand Prix at Silverstone, the Monaco GP and the concluding race of the season."
What's the point of that? Who will decide which will be the best races to air live? The slim chance of a wet race at Valencia might turn it into one of the best races of the year, and yet most people would opt to drop that one perhaps as being boring.
It will be like being told you can only read the even numbered pages of a really good book.
FFS pointless excersise or what
I know, shocking isn't it. What they fail to realise, it that the boring races are only classed as such after the race has finished. Surely F1, Football, Tennis, Hockey etc all have the potential for boring events. Should we play 'pick & mix' with all sport now?

As much as it p&sses me off, I will probably end up paying for sky sports. But, instead of them sticking to a pre-determined channel like sky sports 1, 2 or 3, the cheeky *******s will chop and change thoughout the year, meaning you can't just have one channel at a reduced rate, you have to buy the complete package. And then because movies are only an extra £5, you may as well have that too............All for just £60 a month.

Bargain.
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Old Jul 29, 2011 | 11:27 AM
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I think it's going to have a huge knock on for English fans. I read everywhere that fans won't pay for sky sports to watch it, my father in law is an F1 fan and doesn't even have sky, by brother lives at home and my dad won't pay for sky sports! Lots of English fans will simply not be able to watch it anymore

Way to go Bernie!
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Old Jul 29, 2011 | 11:28 AM
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Would the teams care if the reduction in viewers was compensated by the inclusion of paying viewers?

Would the teams see sponsorship fees reduce as the amount of viewers is reduced?

Couldn't the BBC ask for a premium from viewers to keep F1 on the BBC? The license fee is frozen but why not allow full coverage for all races on the website for a fee? I'd be happy with that as my PC is hooked to the TV anyway.
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Old Jul 29, 2011 | 11:29 AM
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I'm just waiting to see who fronts it. Until then I'm skeptical.
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Old Jul 29, 2011 | 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by EddScott
Would the teams care if the reduction in viewers was compensated by the inclusion of paying viewers?

Would the teams see sponsorship fees reduce as the amount of viewers is reduced?
Doubt it because it's shown worldwide and the UK is only a small portion of the audience.
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Old Jul 29, 2011 | 11:31 AM
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almost makes me want to see the pictures of Bernie again from last year with that whopper of a black eye when he was mugged. would miss Martin and Davids commentry and possibly even the leprechauns dress sense.
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Old Jul 29, 2011 | 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Funkii Munkii

The arguments on the radio say that Sky will give it the magic treatment and take it to an other level, yes they have done wonders for Football and Cricket in this country but F1 aint broke and doesn't need fixing imo and how much better can they really make it.

I agree, and IMO football is alot worse for it these days; it all about the event, the politics, the commercialism, the players, their WAGs, the mangers, the commentator backchat moreso than the actual game itself. Its all bulls**t, just blow the whistle and kick the sodding ball!

Although the mugs who carry on paying out higher and higher subs fees for all this drawn out 'event padding' may disagree.

F1 has gone the same way, but top level motor racing has always been a rich boys play sport so the 'event' has always been part and parcel of the sport, all thats happened and its been opened up more to public view. Still, all the pre race speculation and politics means nothing until the start lights go out.

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Old Jul 29, 2011 | 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Paulo P
Doubt it because it's shown worldwide and the UK is only a small portion of the audience.
Yes but doesn't the BBC broadcast to quite a few other countries? Viewing figures quoted in the Times in June this year give peak figures of over 8 million. Brundle & Co are always saying hello to overseas viewers. If the BBC coverage is cut it will surely have a wider impact than just the UK.
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Old Jul 29, 2011 | 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Blue by You
Yes but doesn't the BBC broadcast to quite a few other countries? Viewing figures quoted in the Times in June this year give peak figures of over 8 million. Brundle & Co are always saying hello to overseas viewers. If the BBC coverage is cut it will surely have a wider impact than just the UK.
Hadn't thought of that What a **** up!
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Old Jul 29, 2011 | 11:41 AM
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Old Jul 29, 2011 | 11:44 AM
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**** Bernie! **** the BBC! **** Sky!

One thing that gets my goat about teh BBC is the license fee keeps going up but the BBC is less and less relevant each year. Now it's only Top Gear left worth watching.
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Old Jul 29, 2011 | 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by ScoobyWon't
I would even go as far as watching coverage on ITV with James Allen rather than paying Sky for the privilege
Now now, we're all upset but lets not say anything we may later regret
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Old Jul 29, 2011 | 11:47 AM
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First off, there is no way that the BBC can put forward the amount of money that sky can and they wont be allowed to get into a bidding war so its not relay down to the bbc.

thing is though, 3 letter's W,R,C .

look how backward that has gone now, does anyone still watch it? that went to ppv in the uk and viewing numbers dropped like a stone, sponsers pulled out, teams pulled out and its pretty much a second rate motorsport now.

so i can see F1 pretty much being a second rate sport come 2018.
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Old Jul 29, 2011 | 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by ALi-B
I agree, and IMO football is alot worse for it these days; it all about the event, the politics, the commercialism, the players, their WAGs, the mangers, the commentator backchat moreso than the actual game itself. Its all bulls**t, just blow the whistle and kick the sodding ball!

Although the mugs who carry on paying out higher and higher subs fees for all this drawn out 'event padding' may disagree.

F1 has gone the same way, but top level motor racing has always been a rich boys play sport so the 'event' has always been part and parcel of the sport, all thats happened and its been opened up more to public view. Still, all the pre race speculation and politics means nothing until the start lights go out.
Boxing too; went from credibility to pseduo-WWF wresting - certainly for the heavy weight division anyway.

British Boxing was really vital and relevant back when it was on ITV in the 90's and you have Benn and Eubank doing their thing. Now it's **** and I couldn't give a toss about hyped Bums like Hatton (though he has retired now).

Hopefully British Touring Cars can stay on freeview. It's not a bad format.
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Old Jul 29, 2011 | 11:51 AM
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Bernie was on the radio just a few weeks ago saying F1 needed to be on freeview for its own good - what a burk!?
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Old Jul 29, 2011 | 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by tony de wonderful

Hopefully British Touring Cars can stay on freeview. It's not a bad format.
But BTCC isn't that great the watch. I really only tend to watch the lot whilst nursing a massive hangover.

You'll have F1 drivers dissing each other and hitting each other with folding chairs before long.


This is a great opportunity for Motors TV to take all the F1 fallout. V8 Supercars is very entertaining. ALMS series is pretty cool to watch and we can relate to them as they look vaguely like road cars.

Maybe get more cameras at UK based events. You never know, F1 moving to subscription could really help more homegrown UK series on the TV.
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I wonder what broadcaster will get the Silverstone race?
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Old Jul 29, 2011 | 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Tidgy

so i can see F1 pretty much being a second rate sport come 2018.
Only in the UK! here in Germany it is on terrestrial TV so nothing is gona change here, and unless other countries suddenly decided to put it on PPV then not much is gona change there either. It is only the Brits that are going to lose out as usual.
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Originally Posted by Wurzel
Only in the UK! here in Germany it is on terrestrial TV so nothing is gona change here, and unless other countries suddenly decided to put it on PPV then not much is gona change there either. It is only the Brits that are going to lose out as usual.
Yeah i live before in Czech Republic,where i can watch full F1 qualification,because Czech channels can't show,lucky you



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