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Old Jul 29, 2011 | 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Blue by You
Yes but doesn't the BBC broadcast to quite a few other countries? Viewing figures quoted in the Times in June this year give peak figures of over 8 million. Brundle & Co are always saying hello to overseas viewers. If the BBC coverage is cut it will surely have a wider impact than just the UK.
In Aus the channel that broadcast F1, "One HD", had the BBC commentary , the pictures were those that we all see here.


This is where I fail to see how Sky can take this to another level, they wont be carting their camera's around the world they will have to rely on what is being broadcast locally.


Anyone know what the deal is with the whole broadcasting rights, in the respect I believe we have to watch what the local broadcaster is transmitting, we have no control over what's actually shown other than at Silverstone.

Could Sky fly their multitude of camera's in ?? that would the only benefit, not having to rely on the local tv director giving you the right shots, last weeks German was a good example, last lap and they were sticking with Vettel, we nearly missed Lewis crossing the line !
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Old Jul 29, 2011 | 12:12 PM
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WHAT A ******* LOAD OF ******* BOLLOX !!!

As from next season, I won't be watching F1 anymore. I have never missed a race is over 20 years. This is Bollox. What's the point in watching half a season?
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Old Jul 29, 2011 | 12:14 PM
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What did I say:

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/93455
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Old Jul 29, 2011 | 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by EddScott
This is a great opportunity for Motors TV to take all the F1 fallout. V8 Supercars is very entertaining.
+1

Obviously I'm biased, but it is a brilliant series with some quality close high speed racing.

You should see the coverage Channel 7 give this series, it's 14 rounds, most are 2 races, bar Bathurst and Perth, one on a Sat and one on a Sun TV coverage start at 10:00 and goes through until 17-18:00 on both days, many arguments with the wife and kids ensued

Only downside is Motors only show it a week after the race(bar Bathurst which is live) which keeps me out of the V8 Forums and websites and Craig Lowndes Twitter account avoiding the result for a bloody week, no point commentating a week after the race in the forums !
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Old Jul 29, 2011 | 12:30 PM
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Such a shame. I won't be paying for sky.
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Old Jul 29, 2011 | 12:31 PM
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V8's ok if you like watching low-tech family barges being driven slowly around a track.
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Old Jul 29, 2011 | 12:36 PM
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Lets keep it on topic please. If you want to discuss V8 ( and its a good series ) start another thread.

Whitmarsh said

"What we need to understand is whether the large audience we currently enjoy in Formula 1 will be maintained. I think we also need to understand exactly how this is being done."

Of course it wont be maintained you idiot. People aren't going to pay £200 a year to watch 10 races.

F1 has shot itself in the foot. Again.
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Old Jul 29, 2011 | 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by FlightMan
Of course it wont be maintained you idiot. People aren't going to pay £200 a year to watch 10 races.
Good point. Why pay for them all, when half are going to be free anyway.
I wonder if the Weasel has thought that one through
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Old Jul 29, 2011 | 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by tony de wonderful
V8's ok if you like watching low-tech family barges being driven slowly around a track.
You obviously dont watch it then.
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Old Jul 29, 2011 | 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Funkii Munkii
You obviously dont watch it then.
+1. it is a fantastic racing series, like touring cars on steroids!
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Old Jul 29, 2011 | 12:51 PM
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Will be interesting to see how Sky schedule this against their usual Sunday live events, it will up against the Premier League, Rugby League, Golf and Rugby Union. I can see Sky Sports 5 happening
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Old Jul 29, 2011 | 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by tony de wonderful
V8's ok if you like watching low-tech family barges being driven slowly around a track.
Don't care how low tech the cars are, if the racing is exciting. You actually find the more serious and the more money there is in a series, the less exciting the racing becomes.

Motors TV even has RC racing on which is more interesting than say F1 Valencia.

The dutch GT season was good too. Even the JGTCC was worth a watch and I think it's a shame it's not on Motors TV anymore.



Why can't we have F1TV and actually pay for it? I'd do that.
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Old Jul 29, 2011 | 12:54 PM
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As an avid F1 fan I'm really peed off with this.

Sky will milk this to get the most money out of it, therefore all the casual F1 viewers the Beeb's picked up over the past few years wont watch it and viewers will go down.

My new home can only have Sky, do they expect me to fork out a load of extra money just for half an F1 season as I have no interest in Football or Cricket
I wont be paying out for Sky's F1 coverage

Has anyone seen the Williams manager Parr's comments saying F1's expensive and it has to be paid for, cheeky ******!
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Old Jul 29, 2011 | 12:59 PM
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£12.25/month extra to add one Sports channel to my current package, I won't be watching it either
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Old Jul 29, 2011 | 01:01 PM
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Sky better record it in proper hd.

I bet they try get damon hill in on it
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Old Jul 29, 2011 | 01:01 PM
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Thing is how many Football fans were saying this years ago when the Premier League started? They all had to bite the bullet and football is even bigger now.
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Old Jul 29, 2011 | 01:03 PM
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Not a bother to me, I will just fire my torrent client up 5 minutes after the race has finished.
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Old Jul 29, 2011 | 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by FlightMan
People aren't going to pay £200 a year to watch 10 races.
But if you look at it from a different angle it costs about that to go to one live race.

Plus you are not paying £200 quid a year to watch 10 races you are paying £200 quid a year to watch ALL the other sporting events you do not get on FV. Which in itself is not FV as it costs 150 quid for a tv licence doesn't it?
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Old Jul 29, 2011 | 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by tony de wonderful
Thing is how many Football fans were saying this years ago when the Premier League started? They all had to bite the bullet and football is even bigger now.
It wasn't £60p/m then though. sky needed that deal back then if they didn't they wouldn't be around now.
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Old Jul 29, 2011 | 01:18 PM
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Just heard on BBC practice commentary that Bernie's called a meeting of all the teams to discuss this news.
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Old Jul 29, 2011 | 01:24 PM
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real shame

i dont have any sky, and dont ever plan on it.

i was recently just starting to get into it - i soo love the noise on the start grid, and the hi speed cornering, from all the different onborad cameras. looks absolutley amazing

but not that amazing ill be forking out anything for it lol
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Old Jul 29, 2011 | 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Wurzel
But if you look at it from a different angle it costs about that to go to one live race.

Plus you are not paying £200 quid a year to watch 10 races you are paying £200 quid a year to watch ALL the other sporting events you do not get on FV. Which in itself is not FV as it costs 150 quid for a tv licence doesn't it?
I dont watch anything else. And to go to a live race would cost me way more than £200.
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Old Jul 29, 2011 | 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Bonehead
Just heard on BBC practice commentary that Bernie's called a meeting of all the teams to discuss this news.
Hmmm, he'll talk, they'll listen, nothing will change.

If only the main teams would split and form another race series, the smaller teams would probably follow, problem solved
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Old Jul 29, 2011 | 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Allan
£12.25/month extra to add one Sports channel to my current package, I won't be watching it either
Not that simple though. As I said, they will chop and change what channel they show it on, meaning you will have to pay the full £20 a month on top of the usual subscription fee.


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As I understand,the teams will play the concorde agreement card which states that F1 was remain free to air. Bernie's get out clause will be 'some of it still will be!'.

That Alan Parr from Williams is f&cking idiot. He announced Patrick Head's retirement....when he wasn't going to retire.

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Old Jul 29, 2011 | 01:38 PM
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(From Facebook save F1 campaign) https://www.facebook.com/SaveBBCF1
Here are the following ways you can send complaints to the BBC.
Web: http://www.bbc.co.uk/complaint​s/
Phone: 03700 100 222
Textphone: 03700 100 212
Write: BBC Complaints
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Old Jul 29, 2011 | 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by The Zohan
(From Facebook save F1 campaign) https://www.facebook.com/SaveBBCF1
Here are the following ways you can send complaints to the BBC.
Web: http://www.bbc.co.uk/complaint​s/
Phone: 03700 100 222
Textphone: 03700 100 212
Write: BBC Complaints

not sure what complaining to the bbc will achieve? its all about money, which they dont have enough of to buy F1 coverage
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Old Jul 29, 2011 | 01:58 PM
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not sure what complaining to the bbc will achieve? its all about money, which they dont have enough of to buy F1 coverage
But they bid for it and won it from ITV a few years back. Then they work out that they now can't afford it so want to go into bed with Sky.

Yes, I do place the blame at the BBC's door. £5million a year from Jonathon Ross? Really?

Bernie is also a two faced tw&t. I really hope that this deal is not legal. The concorde agreement states that is must remain free to air. Not some of it, but all of it.
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Old Jul 29, 2011 | 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Gear Head
As I understand,the teams will play the concorde agreement card which states that F1 was remain free to air. Bernie's get out clause will be 'some of it still will be!'.
So we assume the contract doesn't specify that every race must be FtA and Bernie has managed to convince BBC to keep a bit of the season FtA and not be in breach of contract?
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Old Jul 29, 2011 | 02:05 PM
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But then the main F1 fans will want to watch every race, end up getting sky and therefore never watch it on the Beeb anyway! I really hope Brundle isn't out of a job. He makes it what it is. Sky no doubt will want to employ some idiot that has no clue about the sport, just good at presenting rumours and avoiding the facts.
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Old Jul 29, 2011 | 02:17 PM
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It's not just people at home having to subscribe to Sky. Those pubs that can't /won't pay for Sky because Sky ask far to much money pa, generally have a sports programe on the telly for the pub goers to watch. And on an F1 weekend, it's generally F1 being shown.

So now, people can't even watch the F1 in the pub.

Also, being on Sky, you'll have more adverts through the race than ITV showed.

I really hope people don't pay to watch F1 on Sky. Sky will lose money, Bernie will lose money, and sponsers will lose money. Then Bernie will have to go back groveling to the BBC to start showing all the races.
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