Rez

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Like a few other lads I specifically wanted a wagon so WRX it had to be.. I need to ferry my mountainbike and dog around but they go in the front, missus goes in boot lol since being in here this time around though I've discovered the bugeye jdm STI... I want one so bad! Alternatively, I know a scooby breaker in northumberland who has a brand new 2004 STI engine in a crate originally from prodrive.. wonder if it would slot into my blob wagon?? UK's first genuine blob wagon STI anyone? Lol

morpheus1870

Nah spot on sounds about right. Heard differing things regarding the stock 5speed box, some say it's good and if driven well it should last, others say it's weak and won't stand the extra torque. So far it's been no problem and running 370-380lbft still feels strong. But then again the car is not tracked or launched and only has 20k on the clock.

GezP

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or

It's getting the fit bird home and finding out she's got propper STI's

and

the minger is a propper go'er and blows your head off

lsm

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i have owned 2 classic wrx's, 2 bugeye wrx's and a type r v-ltd wrx and they have all been crackin cars, all been modded to 280 - 320 bhp and all had decent handling mods ets and all done the job i asked of them .... like most have said on here, the wrx is ALOT cheaper than the STi which allows you to "mod" the car with the money you have saved. I have recently purchased a hawkeye STi as i have always craved that STi badge and respect that comes with it ... i am happy with the decision and the STi does perform well out of the box in standard form. But to be honest the suspension is ****E and it has 280 bhp standard... Had i have brought a WRX Hawkeye, i could have spent the thousands i saved, buying decent coilovers and engine mods to a safeish 330 bhp etc, now would that make the wrx a better buy than my STi for the same amount of money? There is defo a place for the WRX, But i am glad i finally purchased a STi, as i will "mod" it one day and i know it has more potential than a WRX as they are stronger and i would still buy a wrx again if the right one came along!

kewe

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Hmmm...Purchase Cost, Insurance and Ride were the 3 main things that put me off an STI.

But..

I did a lot of research and asked lots of stupid questions before I bought my WRX. Nearly everyone advised me to go for an STI and they were probably correct - it is a much better car in standard format vs a WRX. For me though my car is a toy that doesn't get used much except the odd blast around pothole city. I also enjoy scanning ebay and other sites looking for bargains each month to add little bits here and there.

So all in I think it comes down to personal choice and your own current situation. Both are great cars in their own rights and that's all that matters.

ditchmyster

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When i bought my 04 wrx new it was going to be a work car and i was doing around 1k miles a week so got the wrx as the ride on the sti was way too firm to be doing that kind of milage in pothole central.

Tomwrx

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you cant buy the model i wanted in an sti!!!

wrx sl and spent almost a yr searching for the special one,
my hawkeye wrx sl is running 355bhp as a daily driver,

one point to note the 5spd box will go even with normal driving and the odd launch.now have a 6spd fitted so alls good,

morpheus1870

That's what I'm not looking forward to. I know with the extra torque the car is making the box wont be able to handle it. And it's a costly thing to replace. In regards to the gearbox giving up is it a gradual thing like when a clutch starts to slip? Never experienced a naff gearbox so was wondering if there any tell tail signs to watch out for. Also if the gear box does finally go what chance is there other parts linked to the box will be damaged? Would like to know before hand so when the time comes I can get the box replaced before total failure.

daviee

Bought mine out the wrapper in Sept 07 with 6 miles on the clock for the pricley sum of £14,850 that included cat 1 alarm and 1 years road tax @£400.

It came with the blessing of the wife, Quote ..... "as long as its not blue with gold wheels and a big wing" so along with her 3 wishes, It was half the list price of a STI. nuff said, almost 4 years on 45k miles and a few choice mods still a happy camper A couple of crappy phone pics from a few weeks ago.

Carlh

I cocked that up, its SC54 not 53. I think my current turbo is a vf48 not vf43, again i cocked it up (am terrible remembering numbers)

for the 54, 500bhp+:

also, look at this link:
https://www.scoobynet.com/trader-ann...-on-turbo.html

I couldnt find what the 46 could do though, though i imagine the numbers in the turbo model number indicates BHP, so maybe a 46 is 400+

Im sure someone will correct me, maybe the gaffer himself could shed some light?

jura11

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With SC50 you will see too 500bhp(with some meth too),again SC46 is best turbo which is best suited like 2.0 or 2.5L and power is somewhere between 460-500bhp(somewhere is there graph of SC46 and has made something around 500bhp+ but again with Meth).


Jura

Tomwrx

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well mine never went it was the front diff inside the box that started to whine its **** off,
i was about to buy another box but got offered by the same guy to go halfers on buying an 02sti so did that and took the full 6spd set up,

what u will need it the gearbox,clutch cyclinder,gearstick surround,(the 5spd one wont allow for reverse) flywheel and clutch,the propshafts, if u take the rear diff and drive shafts u will need the rear hubs as well and brakes unless u get the mouting bracket for them,
or get an diff from an import which will allow u to retain the original hubs and shafts,

i still have the rear shafts and diff from the 02sti as i didnt require them

dunx

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It will strip third gear usually, second if you are really rough with it, you just need to buy a spare, it would then just be a case of a quick swap, and leisurely repair, disposal...

LeeP has just stripped and sold his WRX, he killed two boxes at 380/400 and the car was rapid. In the end he bought a diesel.

IMHO.

dunx

tubbytommy

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wow this old wrx vs sti thread just keeps popping up!
both good cars,sti is more hardcore to drive i.e. stiffer ride etc. but has better parts fitted, stronger 6 speed box,brembo brakes.
the wrx is a nice car but not as good as sti but is cheaper to buy insure and run.
people generally buy the best car they can afford be it a wrx or sti.
i had the choice of a hawkeye wrx or blob sti in my budget, i went for the blob sti as after some research found out the wrx gearbox is a weak point and so is the 2.5 engine.

ditchmyster

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[QUOTE=daviee;10155518]Bought mine out the wrapper in Sept 07 with 6 miles on the clock for the pricley sum of £14,850 that included cat 1 alarm and 1 years road tax @£400.

It came with the blessing of the wife, Quote ..... "as long as its not blue with gold wheels and a big wing" so along with her 3 wishes, It was half the list price of a STI. nuff said,

+1 on the ott styling and the price tag, to look a right *** turning up at my customers houses and places of business.

My black blob wrx looked really classy, lost count of the number of men and women that commented on what a nice looking car it was.

Rob Day

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If a gearbox is well maintained, then I dont suppose it would matter if it had done 20k or 80k, if you throw bucket loads of torque through it, it will bound to stress and inevitably break. Everything has a weak point, its just knowing what that point is.

Take the 6 Speed box for example, some have buggered theres up at 400bhp with heafty launches, and some are running excess of 600bhp with no issues at all and still launching heavy.

I suppose with regards to the transmission and drive chain, its all about the driver too, if you have say 380/380 and your on a 5 speed and you launch with an organic, you have more chance of gearbox survival than you would with a paddle or twin/triple.

One thing I have noticed on all the impreza's is that the NPS always seem to fail when the lb's are raised, the 5 Speeds more so.

Anyway time for lunch

IainMilford

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Was this car is weston super mare the other day?

dj_akademix

Do you now have a GB270 wagon?

I got mine because I could fit a tow bar and cheaper running costs.

jura11

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GB270 is hardly comparable to STi wagon .




Jura

morpheus1870

Why is that? Will having a better clutch (APi/Exedy/ACT etc) have a bearing on the stress on the stock 5 speed? Is there anything that can be done to the stock 5 speed to make it stronger without having replace the whole unit?

I don't launch the car or intend to either, did this a few times in the past on my 04 wrx and not long after I needed a new clutch. Learn't my lesson.

Rob Day

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Sorry I didnt make myself clear, if you launch on an Organic like I did it will allow for slippage, thus "feather" the power down, rather than an Paddle, twin, tripel which would litterally throw the power direcly onto the flywheel with minimal slippage thus more initial grunt/stress on the gearbox.

3mins into this clip was my Subaru with a Organic Clutch Kit, then watch Steves car after mine.

http://s801.photobucket.com/albums/y...t=M2U00445.mp4

dj_akademix

Wouldn't know, I haven't driven one!

What are the key differences?

Was there ever a JDM hawk STI wagon?

morpheus1870

Ahhh I see thanks for that, your launch seems more gradual and controlled where as Steve's a little more violent. You made mince meat out of the Startlet what kind of times did you achieve on the day?

jura11

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Engine,Brembo,6 speed and other stuff...

I drive one,just test drive one few months back...

Last STi wagon has been JDM STi Bugeye,these are rare and worth every penny.


Jura

DonNedly

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Exactly the same here.
For my budget i could of got a 12yr old sti or a 5yr old wrx. I thought a more modern car would be a safer buy so i got the wrx.

djandyg

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for me - STi was a lot more money to buy, and to insure.
The WRXs are still great handling, quick cars that are a lot of fun to drive and still have loads of tuning potential. Was a great step up for me as i had a N/A 1.6 before the scoob

tubbytommy

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But how many sti owners wish they had a wrx??

lsm

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Not me, im glad i finally brought a STi after 5 wrx's ..... i found i always wanted to make my wrx into a sti look alike or a sti beater lol. Now i have the real thing i am very happy with it

Also the running costs of a modded wrx against a sti are more or less the same, the fuel costs the same as you need to run 99 ron and also the insurance is more or less the same esp if you declare the mods on ur wrx against a standard sti.....

IainMilford

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I wish I had an STi now so I wont need to buy a 6 speed, other than that I'd have upgraded everything else on an STi

dunx

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IF you are uprating everything then get a WRX, if you want a good car that can easily be vastly improved get the STI.

Eventually the two will merge around the £20K point, IMHO.

dunx