Trout

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HOLY SHUCK BATMAN

There is an awful problem with my browser - it says that TTRS is £79k

Trout

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...look up...

Trout

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I mean - a Golf for £80k

grahamc

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Well Aston offered me a vantageS with 600 miles on the clock full dealer spec, lots of additionals for 100k. The new price was 125k. And he wondered why I was not impressed with the deal.....

zip106

Just had an email from Subaru offering me a WRX STi 320R for just £33k.

Now that's the Sale of the Century, ain't it?

LEO-RS

Trout, I was just waiting on you posting

Please fast forward to 16mins in, you'll like it...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JjI87...eature=related

There is a chap in Australia running in the Targa rally. Pesky GTR holding him up here...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dnLT...mbedded#at=101

These little TT's are weapons on the track too

BTW, these are road going cars that take part in the Targa, this TTRS running a mere 420bhp. GTR pulling a little on the straights (650hp) but its 1750kg losing it in the corners.

LEO-RS

LOL at that £80k TT, as if guys, I think that is a case of a fat finger.

No-one pays over £50k for a TTRS, I got near enough 15% off list price. S-Tronic RS well specced for £45k, down from a list of £53k, bought 2 weeks ago.

LEO-RS

Nah not a chance, residuals are very strong on these.

2009 09 plates still selling for £36-£37k from a £42k list price (manual)

£80k is R8 V10 money.

zip106

Leo- do you feel the car is special enough for £45k?
I only ask as to me it is almost the same as a standard TT, engine mods aside.
Whereas, the Spyder has many fundamental differences over a standard Boxster.

I'm not having a dig, just genuinely interested.
Also, what are the projected 3 year values?

Terminator X

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There was a v fast TTRS at this years 30-130 day ... similar pace to a 540hp Hawkeye scoob

TX.

zip106

A lad at Vmax this year had a lime green one with twin hybrid turbos and nitrous!
God knows how much money he wasted on it!

It was very fast though.

LEO-RS

My GFV 3yr value is £28k, 4yr value was £23k. (£44.9k after discount so £16.9k over 3yrs in depreciation)

As to car, the engine is an absolute peach, as is the DSG box. I suppose the £15k premium over the base model is made of the bigger brakes, wheels, the stiffer suspension and obviously the engine/gearbox and a few other bits and bobs too, but yes I suppose it still is a tarted up version of the base model TT

I am of course biased but I dont think there is a better new car for £45k. This car returns 35mpg easy, is cheap to tax and as you can see from some of the 60/100/1/4m times is up there with the big boys that cost 2-3 x as much.

Better value than a GTR, you bet it is (purely for running costs and purchase price, looks nicer too imo) Yes of course, tune the GTR and it will leave the TTRS, but then on a road going car, it starts to get really silly beyond 500hp that you need to take it to disused airfields to stretch its legs. 70 comes up in 3 or 4secs from standstill, anything beyond is license losing and these TTRS's are very quick upto say 150/160.

I will have my new DSG RS tuned in the next couple of weeks. My manual boxed RS hit 30-130 in 12.06secs, the DSG box is going to take a second off that easy.

As to the green car at vmax, it was running 490bhp with an OEM hybrid turbo. No nos but a WMI kit to help with the top speed runs. It hit 186mph on the 1.6m straight which surprised a lot of cars.

In the next year, watch the DSG cars, I'll keep you all updated

alloy

Talk is cheap, let's race!

LEO-RS

Haha depends on what you are running. Bhp will always win top end but if you're running sub 550bhp then I'll happily meet you for a 1/4m, 30-130 or even just compare vbox sprints. If yours is tuned any higher, then not a chance haha.

All good fun anyway

Terminator X

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That Corvette is fast though ... pulls away from the TT with ease despite it being no slouch of course!

TX.

stilover

Hang on. Aren't you leasing your car?

Didn't we all go through your finance deal and realise it was ****? So if Audi gave you 15% off a new TTRS (Which I doubt), what did you do with your previous TTRS?

You can't just trade a car in the belongs to a leasing company?

Something smells a bit fishy.

stilover

Just been on the Audi website.

Car (manual) + RS alloys, Paint, Aluminium styling pack and Bucket seats takes it to over £50k. That before you start ticking options on the interior.

No Audi dealer I know give 15% off. In fact You'll be pushed to get any manufacturer offering 15% off a new car.

LEO-RS

No, I do not lease my car.

Would you like me to scan in my invoice for £44.9k. Would you then like to go to the Audi configurator and spec up the car to £53k. That would prove the 15% discount, yes?

I p/x my manual 59 TTRS (£35.5k) in against the 11 DSG TTRS (£44.9k)

There are numerous people over on the TT forum who managed to bag 10-15% discounts off new so it wasn't a 1 off either.

alloy

For fun I can run the 500 then 540 then 560 and then the full Monty maps all from the buttons on my steering wheel
All vettes do is haul ***! They are brutal in a straight line!!!!!

LEO-RS

stilover, I think you're probably mixed up with PCP vs leasing.

PCP finance is used in over 75% of all car sales and the car is registered to the owner to do as he pleases. The manufacturer then buys the car back at a point down the line, usually 3yrs. If you can find a car that does not depreciate heavily, all the maths can work out well on a PCP.

A lease is just that, a long rental, car is registered to the finance company and at the end of the term, the car is handed back even if there is equity in the car. PCP, the equity remains with the 'owner' rather than the finance house and there is an option to buy for the remainder value or sell and refinance on another new car.

But that's a whole other story to which we've done to death on here before, re-investment of the capital vs depreciation of the capital etc. Let's not go there again as we get nowhere

LEO-RS

That Corvette is brutal, in another league

stilover

OK. Back in November 2010, then you were driving a TT-TDI, you wre going to buy a TTRS. £55K, and you were hoping to get it for nearer £50k. Being still new out then, I doubt very much you got a TTRS for £50k, reduced from £55K.

Going on your numbers above. You've just traded in your manual TTRS (£35.5k) for a DSG TTRS (£44.9k)

2 things. The TTRS has lost £15-20k in 9 months. Secondly, I still say there is now way you can get a specced up TTRS for less than £50k. So either the TTRS you've just bought is very basic spec, or it's second hand.

https://www.scoobynet.com/859550-how...ive-car-5.html

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LEO-RS

You are mis understanding there, I was not personally talking about buying a new car, someone mentioned that a new TTRS was £55k and I mentioned that 10% was the usual discount Audi were offering so a £55k car was only ever going to cost £49.5k.

I bought my manual RS for £38k back in November when it was a year old. I then sold it at the end of June for £35.5k as a trade in. £2.5k lost in 8mths. You also have to remember that the price of cars shot up by a significant amount in January when 2.5% was added to VAT. My old manual was £45k new with spec (Back in 2009). The original owner would have paid £41-£42k for it after discount. I got it for £38k at 12mths old and then sold it for £35.5k at 20 mths old.

My car is not basic spec..

http://configurator.audi.co.uk/contr...andant=accx-uk

Spec...

TTRS S-Tronic - £47,185
19'' Wheels - £1,250
Audi Exclusive Paint - £1,735
Comfort Package - £510 (Cruise, rear parking, auto lights, rain sensors)
Auto dimming folding mirrors - £345
Adaptive headlights, highbeam assist - £430
Storage Pack - £125
Interior Light Pack - £125
Electric Seats - £740
Symphony Radio/6cd -£270
Ipod - £185
Rear Isofix - £35

That comes to £53,025.

I was also given 2yrs free servicing worth upto £1000 as part of the deal. I paid £44.9k so I work that out at 15% discount.

I wouldn't say a poverty spec car with all those options ticked. Car was a returned order, the guy that specced up the car had a change of heart and opted for a V10 R8 instead. The car had been sitting in the showroom for 2mths.

Anyway, like I said, Im not the only chap that has managed 15%, there are a few guys now that have bought £53-54k cars for £45-£46k. I suppose it depends on the dealers and the margins they have to play with.

Trout

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It all feels a bit desperate when the repeated 'justification' for buying a certain car is that it can be chipped to make it almost as fast as some other cars that cost the same to start off with.

Evidence - and there is plenty of it - is that the TTRS punches above it's weight in a straight line and is pretty average for it's money around the corners. There are other cars that simply have better chassis in spite (because) of less power.

alloy

I think desperate is a little extreme, some punters buy certain cars exclusively to tune. Subaru being one of them, in fact for me the enjoyment is tuning my cars

It's horses for courses, it's all well and fine talking about it, but like I said before let's race ......who's up for a SN Other Marque TOTB style event

hodgy0_2

i'm in

2002 Audi A4 TDI


lets ROCK

alloy

Contender readyyyyyyyy!!

Trout

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I am bringing my E39 BMW 530d Touring - fecking awesome when chipped.

zip106

I'll 'ave the lot of you in my (chipped*) 165bhp 2.5 ton pick up.

Read it and weep, Suckahs...





*Not just any old 'chip', oh no.
A Ralliart chip no less!!

LEO-RS

Trout, I agree with you reference the chassis, it's okay but not on the same level as the Cayman R or indeed your GT3RS, no compalaints here. The Cayman R I suspect will lose a TTRS in the corners and under braking, chassis seems fab, TTRS will catch it on the straights.

A standard TTRS laps the Nurburgring in around 8:05, GTR (<MY11) in around 7:40 and your GT3RS in around 7:30 so Im not going to pretend it's a world beater. I guess when you're hurtling round a track though its more driver than car. A race car driver I suspect will lap the Nurburgring in a cliosport car quicker than I can do in my TTRS.