Kieran,

Do you have any clips of you falling off, I am sure those would be worth a watch

 

I've heard that too. I think I read on PH about some bloke being done and he was just sleeping in his car on his driveway.

I wonder how it works for caravans and mobile homes etc? People must get pissed up on holiday and sleep in them?

 

Caravan hasn't got an engine or stored energy - like a bike etc. You'd struggle to move a caravan without an engine or peddles

 

 

A friend of mine was done for being drunk in charge of a vehicle when he was asleep on the back seat of his mates car after he didn't feel too good in a club a long while ago, the police actually said to him if the keys were outside the car instead of in his pocket he would have been fine!

On the subject of cyclists, I was waiting at a crossing and the lights were on red, the old woman had started crossing and was in front of my car when a cyclist decided that lights don't apply to him and rode straight through on my right in the middle of the road! He must've been doing at least 30 as on the 40 limited road I passed him on just before I was doing 35 and overtook him pretty slowly! Cyclists are just as bad as BMW and Audi S3 drivers in my book

Don't get me started on motorbikes....

 

hmm ok,

here is a different steer....You confronted the driver, yet i have a "confrontational attitude?"....

I look for the worst reason.....Well actually i +1'd an already made comment, which in truth is echoed by the many, so its not really even my opinion, more an opinion i share as do most posters.

You have made a grim attempt to make an analysis of a post on a forum and even analyse the poster, which to me seems all the more interesting...not that you would do it only in an attempt to come accross as a genuine "intellect".

Face it, people think what you done was ghey, you are a ghayer for doing it. 1 in 10 will think your awesome. 7 in 10 will find this thread ghey. The other 2 are mentallists or followers....ae they not.>/?

 

Take my hat off to you Mr Burns. I lost my best friend to a drink driver, i have a zero tolerance to them. I think you should upload the video, to see what exactly happened. And it is an offence to drink anything whilst driving.

 

How about a mobile home then?

 

#^^^ there is the 1 in 10....no one is saying drink driving is ok. Its not. FTW

 

On a slightly different note... no offence mate, but tbh, I think you put yourself in a stupid position. Don't be a hero in future, I'm not condoning what this bloke may or may not have done... but if you knocked on my window telling me what to do I would have punched the f*c#ing granny out of you and wrapped your bike round your head!!

You don't know who's in the car or what they have with in the car with them. Yes it could have been a genuine cause for concern; so you should have offered the footage to the police and let them take it from there.

Chances are if he was drink driving, sorry DUI then he probably does it regulary and the police would mark his car to catch him in the future, and probably wouldn't have to wait too long to catch him in the act....

You had no idea what his reaction would be, what you did could be considered as being the dutyful citizen and selfless. In this day and age it's stupid.

I'm just a normal bloke who takes exception to someone getting into my space barking orders at me, but he on the other hand could have been a crack head with a scaffold pole, knife or god knows what else in the car?!?!?

 

If the policeman suspects youve been drinking he can ask for a breath test after youve got home gone to bed, lights out , as far as i know

If this guy is brazenly drinking alcohol at the wheel then he needs to be given a hell of a wake up call before worse befalls , everything else is irelevent

lol at our resident trolls sticking their oars in

 

I'd have told you to mind your own ... might have been his 1st sip. Saying that though I've never drank from a can of beer whilst driving.

TX.

 

You had the courage of your convictions and if you like getting involved,then thats up to you,Just don't expect everyone to act the way that you may expect.Wearing a mountain bike as a hat isn't a good look!
Look what happened to Stephen Cameron when he met Kenneth Noye...

Re careless driving (due care and attention),you only commit the offence if your driving falls below the required standard of a competent and careful driver.Putting a sweet in your mouth in itself would not fall into this category,UNLESS,it causes your standard of driving to fall below that benchmark.Its for the courts to decide at the end of the day...

Re drink driving issues,showing the BiB footage would not convict anyone under S.5 (excess alcohol) or S.4 (unfit through drink or drugs),as it would have to be proved that the driver was over the legal prescribed limit or,indeed,unfit through drugs-via intox machine or blood/urine analysis re drugs.
If you had contacted them there and then and they traced the driver quickly (under certain circs),it may have been a different outcome.

Re drunk in charge of a mechanically propelled vehicle (not just motor vehicle),it is for the defendant to prove that they had no means to drive the vehicle ie proximity,whether you had the keys etc...
As an example of the extremes-you can be found drunk in charge of a mini moto bike or even a car which has no engine (Newberry v Simmonds 1961) a flat battery(R v Paul 1952),so you can quite easily be locked up for sleeping in your car with the keys not in the ignition.

There is also an old offence of being drunk in charge of a pedal cycle...

 

I can't imagine why anyone would need to drink alcohol whilst driving.I have been driving for many,many years & the thought of having a drink in my car hasn't ever crossed my mind.
Methinks he has 'issues' if he needs to drink like that. It is probably why he was so compliant as the thought of the police getting involved would have terrified him.
Should have called the police immediately then we would know for sure everyone was safe.

 

Good on you for telling that d*ckhead to pour away the booze. Pretty surprised people on this thread are giving you a hard time about it.

 

Kudos for the train of though about it but you must be mad to actually do it. The situation could have escalated so quickly. i had a confrontation last night with someone who didnt like it when they cut up the inside lane of traffic to find i wouldnt let them in.

what you did was a prime example of how people should act but in reality you put yourself in so much danger.

And as for the woman she should be pleased you made him pour it away, not only could you of saved both his and her life but also stopped her getting 2 black eyes later as he was clearly drinking wife beating juice

 

Appears not my little power hungry mod

 

Love these posts

 

Love these posts

 

Drink driving is a no-no, end of.

I agree that you put yourself in danger by approaching him, you didnt know how much he had drunk or what mental state that bloke was in and I think you were lucky not to have been harmed. Knowing women as I do, I was surprised she didnt kick off at you, which then would have had the fella standing up for "his girl" (his ego) and kicking the crappiola out of you. I would hand the footage over (not publicise it), hopefully, the police wont do anything other than keep an eye out on the driver, if they do contact him and say we have footage, you've been scuppered - and he may be a regular user of the road you were on, expect a backlash...

Should have just posted the footage to the Police straight away, no confrontation and no backlash, but its done now.

Good for you for approaching him but a silly idea me thinks.

 

Kieran

As you probably know I spend every day cycling to and from work in and out of Edinburgh city centre and have done for many years.

What I've learned.

* 'Behave' as anonomously as possible.
* Lose any self righteous thoughts.
* Expect all car drivers to do the unexpected, so you are not as shocked or angered when they do.
* Ride your bike as you'd drive your car (in relation to red lights, road laws etc)
* Avoid all confrontation, a shake of the head tends to dissolve most situations when the car driver knows he is in the wrong.

I pass a guy most nights (he's stuck in traffic) and the smell of grass coming out of his car is really strong. Does it bother me? Not really, I just let it go as there will be another 1,000 ******** doing the same and worse. Just gotta accept it I'm afraid.

I don't think you've done yourself any favours here to be honest, ignore all that goes on unless it's a serious near miss, when I think you have every right to boot **** out of the perpetrator

 

Because we don't want Kieran to get hurt, that's why!!

I can only guess that Kieran 'clocked' the guy and fancied his chances if it cut up rough - to do otherwise is foolhardy.

Certainly, there is a huge chance that Kieran could have found himself face down on the Hospital Bed with 5 nurses trying to remove a Mountain Bike from his rear end .... and he couldn't have said anything as there would have been a mickey mouse headcam rammed in his gob!!

And I would feel obliged to go visit him - take him some Grapes and offer words of condolence ..... and I'm a bit busy at the moment

 

I would have given him the Stella can as a suppository and then crushed his car with my bare hands!

(Being a man mountain, I can do that!)

Ns04

PS Good for you Kieran; the guy was being a irresponsible ****-head!

 

Interfering self righteous busy body in my book, but then you have a helmet cam so we already know that!

 

Yes, but he is on private land so the police can't touch you until you enter a public road.

 

 

If other public have access to the private land then it is an offence.

 

People are letting their view of cyclists cloud their judgement on the central issue here:

This idiot was drinking a beer whilst driving!!!!

If you think that's ok, I suggest you need a check up from the neck up. Kudos to Kieran for speaking up!

Ns04

 

Kieran is lucky he didn't get his bollox knocked in.

 

As has been said, would you have been so outraged if it was a bottle of water? based on what you say about him drinking anything whilst driving is an offence, i believe that you need to be shown to be driving below the required standard for a conviction, and if it was slow moving traffic and you were able to have the conversation i suspect that traffic must have come to a halt for this to take place and if it was moving are you not guilty of the same offence

My retort would have been, i'll make you a deal if you **** off and mind your own business i won't stick that camera along with your helmet up your ****

I though would not drink alcohol at the wheel, but i don't think it's anyones business what i do as long as i am in control of the vehicle and not driving in a dangerous manner.