Let the opinions commence! (Drinking while driving)
20 June 2011, 08:47 PM
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Let the opinions commence! (Drinking while driving)
Cycling home tonight - I've come up behind a line of traffic waiting for some temporary traffic lights.
The guy driving the car in front of me takes a can of Stella out of the drinks holder and takes a slurp.
It's a line of traffic - it's come to a halt, so I pull up alongside of him and make the following suggestion:
"I'll make you a deal, you pour that drink away and I'll not report you to the Police. How's that?"
He agreed, really quickly. His girlfriend looked confused but he's telling her to pour the drink out of her window - so she does. Whole can - on the road on her side.
So, was I righteous pillock, or doing my bit?
Oh yeah, and I had a helmet cam, so the whole thing is captured for posterity (and if anyone wants to get into the whole debate about Helmet cams for cyclists - start another thread... I got mine for the fun stuff)
The guy driving the car in front of me takes a can of Stella out of the drinks holder and takes a slurp.
It's a line of traffic - it's come to a halt, so I pull up alongside of him and make the following suggestion:
"I'll make you a deal, you pour that drink away and I'll not report you to the Police. How's that?"
He agreed, really quickly. His girlfriend looked confused but he's telling her to pour the drink out of her window - so she does. Whole can - on the road on her side.
So, was I righteous pillock, or doing my bit?
Oh yeah, and I had a helmet cam, so the whole thing is captured for posterity (and if anyone wants to get into the whole debate about Helmet cams for cyclists - start another thread... I got mine for the fun stuff)
20 June 2011, 08:55 PM
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keeping the clip off air at the moment as it clearly shows the driver, the car, the number plate and everything.
I could report it to the Police and have him charged with due care (there is no offense for drink driving - people mistake this for driving while under the influence) and I'm in two minds to do so at the moment.
I could report it to the Police and have him charged with due care (there is no offense for drink driving - people mistake this for driving while under the influence) and I'm in two minds to do so at the moment.
20 June 2011, 08:59 PM
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Tell you what - I'll share another clip from the same ride home... you'll like this one. It involves a BMW smashed up 
http://youtu.be/wjsr90rXwSA?hd=1
http://youtu.be/wjsr90rXwSA?hd=1
20 June 2011, 09:00 PM
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I'm not sure I understand what he's done wrong?
a) You don't know he was over the limit.
b) He was drinking from a can whilst stationary. Is that a crime? Have you never eaten or drunk something in a car?
I'm not saying you're wrong - I just don't understand what you're accusing him of.
Gordo
a) You don't know he was over the limit.
b) He was drinking from a can whilst stationary. Is that a crime? Have you never eaten or drunk something in a car?
I'm not saying you're wrong - I just don't understand what you're accusing him of.
Gordo
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20 June 2011, 09:07 PM
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I'm not sure I understand what he's done wrong?
a) You don't know he was over the limit.
b) He was drinking from a can whilst stationary. Is that a crime? Have you never eaten or drunk something in a car?
I'm not saying you're wrong - I just don't understand what you're accusing him of.
Gordo
a) You don't know he was over the limit.
b) He was drinking from a can whilst stationary. Is that a crime? Have you never eaten or drunk something in a car?
I'm not saying you're wrong - I just don't understand what you're accusing him of.
Gordo
I think you've jumped the gun
20 June 2011, 09:09 PM
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I'm not sure I understand what he's done wrong?
a) You don't know he was over the limit.
b) He was drinking from a can whilst stationary. Is that a crime? Have you never eaten or drunk something in a car?
I'm not saying you're wrong - I just don't understand what you're accusing him of.
Gordo
a) You don't know he was over the limit.
b) He was drinking from a can whilst stationary. Is that a crime? Have you never eaten or drunk something in a car?
I'm not saying you're wrong - I just don't understand what you're accusing him of.
Gordo
I had a chat with the Police about it and they explained what the actual crime was (as above)
20 June 2011, 09:10 PM
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I would have shoved your camera where the sun don't shine, in all honesty ................... !!
He can drink whilst not moving.
He can drink whiskey if he chooses to.
What he cannot do is DUI. You have zero evidence that he was.
I am truly staggered that:-
a. You told him to empty the drink, and,
b. He actually did!!
He can drink whilst not moving.
He can drink whiskey if he chooses to.
What he cannot do is DUI. You have zero evidence that he was.
I am truly staggered that:-
a. You told him to empty the drink, and,
b. He actually did!!
20 June 2011, 09:11 PM
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defo did the righ thing matey, i must admit i sometimes feel guilty drinking my mcdonalds coffee when out on the road for fear of having a bump, so a can of stella is a definite no no
20 June 2011, 09:14 PM
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I would have shoved your camera where the sun don't shine, in all honesty ................... !!
He can drink whilst not moving.
He can drink whiskey if he chooses to.
What he cannot do is DUI. You have zero evidence that he was.
I am truly staggered that:-
a. You told him to empty the drink, and,
b. He actually did!!
He can drink whilst not moving.
He can drink whiskey if he chooses to.
What he cannot do is DUI. You have zero evidence that he was.
I am truly staggered that:-
a. You told him to empty the drink, and,
b. He actually did!!
Oh dear. But he was drinking a STELLA whislt in control of a motor for crying out load. How do we know he hadn't sunk into another can before hand etc.
Steve
20 June 2011, 09:17 PM
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You ever sup out of a water bottle whist cycling?
20 June 2011, 09:17 PM
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I would have shoved your camera where the sun don't shine, in all honesty ................... !!
He can drink whilst not moving.
He can drink whiskey if he chooses to.
What he cannot do is DUI. You have zero evidence that he was.
I am truly staggered that:-
a. You told him to empty the drink, and,
b. He actually did!!
He can drink whilst not moving.
He can drink whiskey if he chooses to.
What he cannot do is DUI. You have zero evidence that he was.
I am truly staggered that:-
a. You told him to empty the drink, and,
b. He actually did!!
20 June 2011, 09:18 PM
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I would have shoved your camera where the sun don't shine, in all honesty ................... !!
He can drink whilst not moving.
He can drink whiskey if he chooses to.
What he cannot do is DUI. You have zero evidence that he was.
I am truly staggered that:-
a. You told him to empty the drink, and,
b. He actually did!!
He can drink whilst not moving.
He can drink whiskey if he chooses to.
What he cannot do is DUI. You have zero evidence that he was.
I am truly staggered that:-
a. You told him to empty the drink, and,
b. He actually did!!
20 June 2011, 09:20 PM
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20 June 2011, 09:22 PM
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Just to clarify - he WAS breaking the law - driving without due care. If a copper REALLY wanted to be arsey he could charge you with due care for eating a sweet while driving. (the actual act of unwrapping it and putting it in your mouth would qualify)
20 June 2011, 09:25 PM
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Every other day you read about person X who approach person Y over something they person Y was doing they considered wrong, immoral or illegal. Invariably, person X ends up stabbed.
Personally,I just let the world around me get on with it. If I saw something that really concerned me I would report it to the relevant people.
Personally,I just let the world around me get on with it. If I saw something that really concerned me I would report it to the relevant people.
20 June 2011, 09:28 PM
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20 June 2011, 09:29 PM
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because by the time I reported it, he was well away and impossible to find (we were less than a mile from the M1). Plus it would be impossible to prove he was drunk while actually driving the car - this did come up in conversation with the Police.